Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Yeah, we really missed Marcy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 For the 1st time in decades, the team is headed in the right direction and faster than anyone here thought possible. Â Looks like a lot of our so-called good players may have been a tad overrated and that this administration actually knows how to manage assets. Â Or I could choose to listen to those who say the sky is falling after victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. Haha oh my god man. Such a pathetic defense of your horrible take it boggles the mind. You may be the official nadir of this board, which is saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. Go away. You don't have the slightest understanding of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Â Â Thank you...my thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense.  Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Nothing will satisfy you will it? Winning, our rookies are playing a lot of time at different spots and our recently signed secondary has been strong forcing turnovers. We have gained a ton of draft picks and cut some of the fat on this team to clear cap space for this offseason to bring in guys that fit the system. Bills are playing well with little top flight talent and yet you're not happy. Keep crying man, wow. Typical OBD apologist. So we won the game. Big deal. The goal is to amass talent.  If you'd followed Brendon McBean as long as I have you'd know what I'm talking about. But we'll just "trust the process." Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. LOL.... It really sucks the Bills won today huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 If I read Spotrac correctly the Bills now have $12,679,294 in 2017 cap space available and are projected to have $29,602,348 in 2018 cap space available. So if the Bills rolled over this years remaining cap space into next season they'd have a total of $42,281,642 available for 2018. Correct? Â 2017 Cap Totals CAP TYPE BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS INCENTIVES CAP TOTAL 2017 NFL Salary Cap $167,000,000 2016 Rollover Cap $2,837,222 Adjustment $-2,847,325 Adjusted Salary Cap $166,989,897 All Contracts $81,158,698 $28,659,792 $8,415,290 $1,500,000 $1,190,000 $3,758,333 $2,050,000 $125,045,760 Injured Reserve Money $1,626,000 $2,500 - - $10,000 - - $1,353,500 Dead Money $5,226,163 $15,800,916 $2,448,491 $2,525,000 $300,000 $600,000 - $26,881,743 Practice Squad $1,029,600 - - - - - - $1,029,600 Total $89,040,461 $44,463,208 $10,863,781 $4,025,000 $1,500,000 $4,358,333 $2,050,000 $154,310,603 Cap Space $12,679,294 Â Â 2018 Cap Totals CAP TYPE BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS ROSTER BONUS OPTION BONUS WORKOUT BONUS RESTRUC. BONUS INCENTIVES CAP TOTAL 2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000 2017 Rollover Cap $0 Adjustment $0 Adjusted Salary Cap $168,000,000 All Contracts $75,986,460 $24,706,738 $12,650,000 $1,500,000 $1,115,000 $3,758,334 - $119,716,532 Dead Money - $13,356,120 - $5,325,000 - - - $18,681,120 Total $75,986,460 $38,062,858 $12,650,000 $6,825,000 $1,115,000 $3,758,334 - $138,397,652 Cap Space $29,602,348 Â If the bills are only $29 million under next year with this roster there is still more work to be done to shed some cost. Some of that is getting Dareus completely off the books. The current roster doesn't have many players that should command big contracts. Â Beane is doing the right thing IMO in creating space for future free agents or to pay some of the younger players currently on the team that are worthy of bigger contracts in the upcoming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VH2001 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Cant decide who has the worst takes around here. This guy or SaviorPeterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 To be fair, if we trade Glenn I'll be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Yeezus is way worse than SaviorP. However, isn’t it interesting that so many others agree with their takes, however bizarre? It is just mind-boggling how an enjoyable win can bring out so much doom and gloom from so-called fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 People hate to look dumb, so they double down and look even dumber. Guess that's dumb and dumber all rolled into one.   Why is everyone giving Beane credit to our good start  This is all Mcdermott and the guys Whaley brought in here.  If Beane trades Glenn that is the last straw with him. Glenn is one of the best players on our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 People hate to look dumb, so they double down and look even dumber. Guess that's dumb and dumber all rolled into one. Â Â Hey he knows he is not wrong he cant be wrong his mom always told him he was special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Beane seems to be a pretty smart cookie to me so far. Cleared out some $$$ for the future (Dareus), picked up some draft capital for the future (Darby and Watkins), and picked up some low priced players that fit the mold of what we are trying to build. Â For the first time in a very long time the GM and Coach are in synch. Â I hope that Glenn does not get traded this season and I cannot see a reason to trade him when he seems to be making an big positive impact. Â I can't wait to see what Beane and McD do in the off season. I actually can wait, this season is really fun. Â So I have to disagree with the OP. We might really have someone good here. Time will tell. Edited October 29, 2017 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia828 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Â Â just bc Watkins isn't producing on the Rams doesn't mean he wouldn't have here. Him and Tyrod has amazing chemistry. He is only 24 and finally healthy again. Â And Beane traded him for a CB that most likely will play less than 10 games a year To use Tyrod and the amazing is too much to handle. Front office has done a great job with the purge while building a foundation you build on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) OP is an idiot. Just calling it like I see it . Go Bills!!!! 5-2 Edited October 30, 2017 by OldNMBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Typical OBD apologist. So we won the game. Big deal. The goal is to amass talent. Â If you'd followed Brendon McBean as long as I have you'd know what I'm talking about. But we'll just "trust the process." Â This guy gets it. He has gotten rid of players that don't fit the scheme. Finding players to fit the scheme is what every GM is supposed to do. In the process of getting rid of those players, he has gained cap space and draft picks. Every GM has to make hard decisions but Dareus was more destructive in this building than anything, same with Sammy. Darby is a press one on one corner, doesn't fit the scheme. If they don't fit, they won't be here. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 McDermott and Beane aren't playing around. If you aren't with us, you will be against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNMBillsFan Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Typical OBD apologist. So we won the game. Big deal. The goal is to amass talent. Â If you'd followed Brendon McBean as long as I have you'd know what I'm talking about. But we'll just "trust the process." Â This guy gets it. Your an idiot!!!. Bills are 5-2, suck it!!!! Go Bills!!!! Edited October 30, 2017 by OldNMBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He has gotten rid of players that don't fit the scheme. Finding players to fit the scheme is what every GM is supposed to do. In the process of getting rid of those players, he has gained cap space and draft picks. Every GM has to make hard decisions but Dareus was more destructive in this building than anything, same with Sammy. Darby is a press one on one corner, doesn't fit the scheme. If they don't fit, they won't be here. Plain and simple. A good coach doesn't get players that fit his scheme, he gets a scheme that fits his players. Sami Watkins is a world class decoy and Dareus is the fastest fat guy in the NFL. If we had them we would probably clinch a playoff appearance this Thursday. Instead it's 2011 and we're in Groundhog day. Your an idiot!!!. Bills are 5-2, suck it!!!! Go Bills!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Surpisingly....this probably will not keep the OP from posting this garbage  The mods will prevent him from posting anything. Be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 A good coach doesn't get players that fit his scheme, he gets a scheme that fits his players. Sami Watkins is a world class decoy and Dareus is the fastest fat guy in the NFL. If we had them we would probably clinch a playoff appearance this Thursday. Instead it's 2011 and we're in Groundhog day. Â A new coach yes but a completely new regime...no. I'd say they've done a nice job of it. Gotta have the players buy into the system, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 A new coach yes but a completely new regime...no. I'd say they've done a nice job of it. Gotta have the players buy into the system, not the other way around. I agree, I was just !@#$ing around. I thought the decoy bit was a give away. That and calling him Brendan McBean. I fully support all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Maybe you can sTROLL around with a MD jax jersey. Â You must be the life of the party with that sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Dareus arrives in J'ville with an overstuffed wallet.........would be a bad move to test Coughlin or Marrone though...... He HAS tested Marrone several times as shown by Marrone fining Dareus as well as benching him for a game - all for the same garbage he did this year and previous years to Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 18 pages on a troll post. Good job eveyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He HAS tested Marrone several times as shown by Marrone fining Dareus as well as benching him for a game - all for the same garbage he did this year and previous years to Marrone. Â Yet, whatever Dareus did while Marrone was coach did not preclude the Jags from digging deep and caving to our demand for a 6th round draft choice. The Jags must have been really desperate to pay so much for Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 McDermott and Beane aren't playing around. If you aren't with us, you will be against us. More like, "If you're not with us, you're outa here!" Â . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Â Yet, whatever Dareus did while Marrone was coach did not preclude the Jags from digging deep and caving to our demand for a 6th round draft choice. The Jags must have been really desperate to pay so much for Dareus. Â You do realize that the Texans GAVE a 2nd rnd pick to Cleveland to take a very similar contract off their books? Â And Brock didn't have a years suspension hanging over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Â You do realize that the Texans GAVE a 2nd rnd pick to Cleveland to take a very similar contract off their books? Â And Brock didn't have a years suspension hanging over his head. Sshhhh.You wont be able to tell him anything. Hes an ardent Dareus supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Â You do realize that the Texans GAVE a 2nd rnd pick to Cleveland to take a very similar contract off their books? Â And Brock didn't have a years suspension hanging over his head. Â i do follow football . . . so yes, I do. Sshhhh. You wont be able to tell him anything. Hes an ardent Dareus supporter. My problem is not getting sufficient value for Dareus. I don't mind the guy playing for the Bills as you apparently do. Management decided to move on. Fine. Whatever. I just think that the Bills did not get value for the asset. Edited October 30, 2017 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Â i do follow football . . . so yes, I do. Â My problem is not getting sufficient value for Dareus. I don't mind the guy playing for the Bills as you apparently do. Management decided to move on. Fine. Whatever. I just think that the Bills did not get value for the asset. There was no value. Its been known since the preseason that he was on the block. It was less than a week b4 the trade deadline. Had to get the lazy, undisciplined, and lacking as a team player off this team before he destroys what Sean is trying to instill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Talent is over-rated... What attributes count most for Beane??... Who knows??... My guess...Position Skill, Character, Intelligence, Desire, Durability, Team Identity... Based on what I saw and read about Watkins and Dareus, both were lacking in several attributes... Both are gone... Don't know enough about the other guys... But sure do like the team Beane is building... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 There was no value. Its been known since the preseason that he was on the block. It was less than a week b4 the trade deadline. Had to get the lazy, undisciplined, and lacking as a team player off this team before he destroys what Sean is trying to instill. Â Thanks for making my point. Â The Bills were desperate to trade him and got what people get when they show desperation in negotiations (whether a trade in the NFL or any other type of negotiation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Â Thanks for making my point. Â The Bills were desperate to trade him and got what people get when they show desperation in negotiations (whether a trade in the NFL or any other type of negotiation). You have no point. Dareus at his pay was literally worth a six rounder. Hes rated as the 67th best dt.I would say a 6 is good calue. Jax is betting on seeing the old Dareus. You know the one that hasnt been around in a long time. This isnt going to end well for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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