BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Lots of speculation if Teddy will be back or Bradford will be the guy going forward. Bridgewater had his career derailed by that gruesome knee injury but may very well be available. Should the Bills look into the third year player? He's still got a ton of potential, moves very well, may be the perfect fit in Dennison's horizontal offense. Arm strength with Teddy is questionable, but I think he has an adequate arm. Would you go after him? Would you give him $12M per in the offseason? (Throwing that estimate out there.) Edited October 15, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 What is it with this fan base and the obsession with mediocrity. Aspire for better bud. TB is not,...well he's not TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) What is it with this fan base and the obsession with mediocrity. Aspire for better bud. TB is not,...well he's not TB. But he is black. (a reference to the TT thread). Edited October 15, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He don't have a leg to stand on, I wouldn't pay him to throw a fit, let alone a football. Besides, we have a healthier version of him already in Peterman. The best ability is availability, right? Therefore, hell no. He's a career backup from this point forward, for however many years he can hang on for. Sad but true IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) like what we saw with RG3, Bridgewater was good because there was the threat he would run. now that he has a bum knee he won't be mobile and as a pure pocket passer he is sub-par. so no thanks. :Edit: Guess I was wrong, I was confused by his Madden ratings where he's one of the best running QB's in the game. He's just a sub par pocket QB in real life Edited October 15, 2017 by kdiggz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He wasn't that great even before his knee exploded. 2015- 65% Comp. for 3200 yards, 14 TDs and 9 picks 2014- 64% Comp. for 2900 yards and 12 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I dont think Bridgewater has ever shown he was anything more than another mediocre QB like we already have on the roster. The Bills should just draft and groom their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) like what we saw with RG3, Bridgewater was good because there was the threat he would run. now that he has a bum knee he won't be mobile and as a pure pocket passer he is sub-par. so no thanks. am i allowed to call him a mobile QB? or is that racist? He was a pocket passer. Bridgewater and RG have one thing in common and it isn't their mobility. With that being said I don't think he makes much/any sense for the Bills. Edited October 15, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) *IF Bridgewater can ever come back from the nasty knee injury 100% he is worth a shot as he was still developing. He will most likely come back like Daunte Culpepper though who's promising future was derailed by major knee injury against the Panthers and ultimately ended his career. Fingers crossed for this guy though. Edited October 15, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 like what we saw with RG3, Bridgewater was good because there was the threat he would run. now that he has a bum knee he won't be mobile and as a pure pocket passer he is sub-par. so no thanks. am i allowed to call him a mobile QB? or is that racist? This is just not accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He wasn't that great even before his knee exploded. 2015- 65% Comp. for 3200 yards, 14 TDs and 9 picks 2014- 64% Comp. for 2900 yards and 12 picks. This. Throw in the injury and at this point the most he's worth is a league minimum prove it deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 No. He was overhyped before he got injured. I will take my chances elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 This. Throw in the injury and at this point the most he's worth is a league minimum prove it deal. When's the last time a QB got the league minimum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Bradford's knee issue is very bad and it may be career-ending situation per jay glazer. I highly doubt they make him their long-term QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 When's the last time a QB got the league minimum? Late round QB's and UDFA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Late round QB's and UDFA's. I mean a veteran FA. Most QB's either get a couple million or don't get signed. Edited October 15, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I mean a veteran FA. Most QB's either get a couple million or don't get signed. How much did we give Orton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) When's the last time a QB got the league minimum? I think you understand the spirit of his post and are arguing semantics. There are some QBs that signed for 2mil or less. There are some that are signed for 1mil or less. Edited October 15, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 At this point Id rather take our chances on a rookie. I really wanted us to draft him but Whaley was hell bent on hitching his wagon to a total scrub in EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think you understand the spirit of his post and are arguing semantics. There are some QBs that signed for 2mil or less. There are some that are signed for 1mil or less. I hear that, I just don't think its realistic to lump Teddy in with those guys. I think Bridgewater will get more money on the market than say EJ Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 he should retire while he can still walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) How much did we give Orton? $5.5M AAV, 2 year deal. Edited October 15, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I hear that, I just don't think its realistic to lump Teddy in with those guys. I think Bridgewater will get more money on the market than say EJ Manuel. Tough to say. If he didn't get that injury, I would definitely agree. Some team may take a shot at him. I don't think at the 12 you posted though and I know you were just throwing a number out there. I think he is worth a look at maybe a one year 5 mil deal. Maybe with a few mil more in incentives or something. I would still draft someone on top of that because I don't think he proved a lot even before injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Tough to say. If he didn't get that injury, I would definitely agree. Some team may take a shot at him. I don't think at the 12 you posted though and I know you were just throwing a number out there. I think he is worth a look at maybe a one year 5 mil deal. Maybe with a few mil more in incentives or something. I would still draft someone on top of that because I don't think he proved a lot even before injury. That's around what Glennon got. The QB market has exploded for potential starters. I would jump at 1 yr $5M. And always draft a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I mean a veteran FA. Most QB's either get a couple million or don't get signed. If offered even a minimum deal, TB would sign. And I doubt any team will give him much with his play prior to being injured and the injury he suffered. Maybe a deal with incentives to push it into $5M+ range, but no guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lots of speculation if Teddy will be back or Bradford will be the guy going forward. Bridgewater had his career derailed by that gruesome knee injury but may very well be available. Should the Bills look into the third year player? He's still got a ton of potential, moves very well, may be the perfect fit in Dennison's horizontal offense. Arm strength with Teddy is questionable, but I think he has an adequate arm. Would you go after him? Would you give him $12M per in the offseason? (Throwing that estimate out there.) no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 If offered even a minimum deal, TB would sign. And I doubt any team will give him much with his play prior to being injured and the injury he suffered. Maybe a deal with incentives to push it into $5M+ range, but no guarantees. A team gave Glennon $45M. I think you're underestimating the desperation out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 But he is black. Please explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Please explain? A joking reference to the ridiculous thread(s?) about black QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 We wouldn't be having this conversation if they had just gone ahead and drafted Deshaun Watson But that would have been silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lots of speculation if Teddy will be back or Bradford will be the guy going forward. Bridgewater had his career derailed by that gruesome knee injury but may very well be available. Should the Bills look into the third year player? He's still got a ton of potential, moves very well, may be the perfect fit in Dennison's horizontal offense. Arm strength with Teddy is questionable, but I think he has an adequate arm. Would you go after him? Would you give him $12M per in the offseason? (Throwing that estimate out there.) Hell NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lots of speculation if Teddy will be back or Bradford will be the guy going forward. Bridgewater had his career derailed by that gruesome knee injury but may very well be available. Should the Bills look into the third year player? He's still got a ton of potential, moves very well, may be the perfect fit in Dennison's horizontal offense. Arm strength with Teddy is questionable, but I think he has an adequate arm. Would you go after him? Would you give him $12M per in the offseason? (Throwing that estimate out there.) Short answer? No. After more consideration? F##k no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I think a lot of posters are understating how he was playing pre-injury. By many accounts he was DEVELOPING into a franchise QB. The Vikings were very happy with his progress. He wasn't there quite yet, but they and many around the league thought he was not that far off. There was a lot of excitement in Minn. However, that injury was bad, like almost had to have his leg amputated bad. You can't give a guy coming off something like that $12M without showing something first. We also have to come to the realization that there is a very good chance we are not going to be able to get one of the top 3 or 4 QBs in the draft. With our pick being worse than most expected and KCs as well, it's probably going to take a lot more than just those 2 1st to get up high enough, and how much are we willing to give up? Another 1st next year? 2 more 2nds? We may be stuck seeing what we have in Peterman and a 2nd tier guy in this years draft, bringing in Teddy for cheap on a year deal may be worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 He was a pocket passer. Bridgewater and RG have one thing in common and it isn't their mobility. With that being said I don't think he makes much/any sense for the Bills. Agree 100%. Bridgewater was not a running Quarterback.... did he have a bit of mobility to grt outside the pocket? Sure. But people thinking his passing ability was aided by a threat to run are way off the mark. Andrew Luck runs more than Bridgewater and he is never compared to RGIII in style is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 TT is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I hope he recovers, but everything I've heard indicates that Bridgewater may never play again. If he can get back on the field who knows what impact an injury like this will have on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 A team gave Glennon $45M. I think you're underestimating the desperation out there. Glennon was healthy. Unless TB can come back during this season and play well, no team is going to bank on him being their starter or even backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 At this point Id rather take our chances on a rookie. I really wanted us to draft him but Whaley was hell bent on hitching his wagon to a total scrub in EJ. Is that why he went out and signed Kyle Orton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Lots of speculation if Teddy will be back or Bradford will be the guy going forward. Bridgewater had his career derailed by that gruesome knee injury but may very well be available. Should the Bills look into the third year player? He's still got a ton of potential, moves very well, may be the perfect fit in Dennison's horizontal offense. Arm strength with Teddy is questionable, but I think he has an adequate arm. Would you go after him? Would you give him $12M per in the offseason? (Throwing that estimate out there.) Look at Teddy's career numbers. Then look at Tyrod's. What has Teddy ever done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I would rather sign Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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