John from Riverside Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I've been saying this for weeks and DJ's opinion is the same of many scouts I've spoke with in recent weeks regarding Taylor's flaws and what a move to Peterman could do for this offense. If McD and his coaches are truly studying the game film they would see that Taylor is not making plays that are there to be had. In fact for all the talk about our oline woes, they actually aren't that bad in pass blocking according to PFF's efficiency metrics that I pointed out already. Run blocking, yes that's a different story but better QB play would certainly change that as well. "that many scouts ive spoken to" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 "that many scouts ive spoken to" LOL he's a real corker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Any hot baseball milfs there? I don't really care if you're with DJ or not. Post pics of the milfs. I agree with this. Pics or it didnt happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Sure, absolutely true. But what makes you think we don't end up worse? There are more failures at QB than success. TT isn't going to an Arron Rodgers type or even a Dalton, but you could end up worse. Would be interesting to see what TT could do with an improved O-line, and legit group of WR. And please don't say that had one and traded him as he's not doing that much more in LA than he did here, and now he has what appears to be a good QB. Plus no guarantees he wouldn't be hurt again like he often was. lots of peoples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I was done at the Tennessee game 2 years ago. We won but I knew/know that, that kind of play is unsustainable to consistent winning. you were done in his what 8th start? what chance are you going to give a rookie qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 If you're the least bit objective and have 2 eyeballs it's very plain to see the Bills need a QB. If all the fans sitting in the stands and watching on T.V. can see, so can Donald Jones and the players on the team. I actually had a conversation with a very prominent offensive player on the Bills about 3 weeks ago in which the Bills needing to find a QB was discussed. The player was PC and smart enough to not just come right out and say Tyrod isn't cutting it, but in a round about way that's pretty much exactly what he said. Sure, absolutely true. But what makes you think we don't end up worse? There are more failures at QB than success. TT isn't going to an Arron Rodgers type or even a Dalton, but you could end up worse. Would be interesting to see what TT could do with an improved O-line, and legit group of WR. And please don't say that had one and traded him as he's not doing that much more in LA than he did here, and now he has what appears to be a good QB. Plus no guarantees he wouldn't be hurt again like he often was. I always disagree with the......"well if you give him a good O-line, a great running game, an excellent defense, wings & a pet unicorn he might be a pretty good QB" argument. Good QB's lift the entire offense around them. That's the whole reason good QB's are good, they cover up other areas of vulnerability in the team. Tyrod hides no vulnerabilities if anything he accentuates them. That's what happens with middling QB's. Just look at what happened to the Packers today. The entire team looked like total garbage with Brett Hundley, even the coaching looked bad, because they had no confidence in him to convert 4th and shorts that they clearly should have gone for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 It's not the easy but it's also not impossible. Also we may have one if they pull their heads out of their you know what and give Peterman a shot. It's already clear what you have in Tyrod. Nothing is going to change with him and who he is isn't enough to win anything in this league so why is he still starting. I guess I get it why they will keep Tyrod in... But I am generally in the camp of when you know a player is not the answer, there is no point in dragging it out. I think you give TT the chance to make the playoffs, but if/when we are eliminated, 5 should be done for the year. It just makes so much sense to see what you have in Peterman, and get him some live action. After all, next year he will be competing with a 2018 draft pick. Really wish the NFL had a farm system so we could see Peterman play in "the minors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I call BS on this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I also call BS. What you have said goes against everything Jones talks about on the show. Nice try though Why would he lie about having a conversation with Donald jones? lol. If it was jim Kelly then I would question it a little more. But don't understand why he would make up talking to Donald jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why would he lie about having a conversation with Donald jones? lol. If it was jim Kelly then I would question it a little more. But don't understand why he would make up talking to Donald jones Why is Jim Kelly any different? They're both ex players who didn't accomplish schit. Has beens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why is Jim Kelly any different? They're both ex players who didn't accomplish schit. Has beens. Because he is a legendary Bills QB who is in the HOF. Donald Jones was a scrub receiver who barely made the team. Why would someone lie about that?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Because he is a legendary Bills QB who is in the HOF. Donald Jones was a scrub receiver who barely made the team. Why would someone lie about that?... That's something you'll have to ask cherry coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) I have an odd feeling reading this thread... sorta like rubber necking staring at a car wreck. Carry on! Edited October 16, 2017 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 That's something you'll have to ask cherry coke. Or something you have to ask yourself and think logically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Or something you have to ask yourself and think logically Based on history ... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Based on history ... nah. Don't know the original poster at all, just doesn't make sense why someone would lie about meeting Donald jones lol... Edited October 16, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Don't know the original poster at all, just doesn't make sense why someone would lie about meeting Donald jones lol... In my hometown, a local urologist was caught stealing reading glasses from a grocery store. Some people do things they have no reason to. Happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 In my hometown, a local urologist was caught stealing reading glasses from a grocery store. Some people do things they have no reason to. Happens all the time. Why is that so unrealistic though? Its Donald f'ing jones lol. He is barely relevant. I live near Toronto in the hockey mecca of the world and I have talked to tyler seguin/rick nash at bars multiple times. Is that b.s because I don't have a picture? lol, just don't understand the hate/ why people find it so unrealistic he ran into Donald jones lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think most objective Bills fans understand our passing game and qb are not good enough. Rather then try the other guy to find out if we can improve it, we will keep playing the guy that we know cant do it. Very sensible The NFL is the most conservative, traditionalist environment you will find in society. I would love for some thirty-something dot com billionaire to come along, buy a team, and do everything according to what is smart and correct, as opposed to what is traditional or what the traditional "football guy" thinks is correct. Once it is done and is successful, the rest of the league will reluctantly follow suit. Until that happens, it is incredibly difficult to do anything that goes against conventional wisdom. So onward with Tyrod we go. It will take an injury and missed time for Peterman to show what he can do--or can't do. he sounds excited like the bills just scored a touchdown when then get a 5 yard run. But sometimes it is the opposite. He is not excited when he should be. He is so bad at his job. It is really hard to judge what is happening based on what he says if you are solely listening on the radio with no TV. Also, I have found that simply listening for crowd noise, or lack thereof, is a much quicker way to find out the outcome of a given play. Waiting for Murphy to tell you often takes quite a while. He needs better glasses or something. It can take him 5 seconds sometimes to tell you if a pass is caught, dropped, or intercepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 John Murphy Show is almost completely unlistenable at this point. Donald Jones has a coherent thought about 10% of the time and Murph is way too much of a propaganda machine for the Bills. He always has been but it's getting more blatant and he's going so far as to rip on callers that disagree with the team's direction. Having said that, anyone with a pulse and a set of eyes knows Tyrod isnt very good. Without an amazing defense and league leading running game, he is nothing. How about we have those things PLUS a good QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Sure we need a better QB. We need an elite WR, at least 2 better OL, at least 2 better LB's, better depth behind Shady, better depth at CB and a new starting DT to replace Kyle. Additionally, Dareus and Lawson need to step up their game a LOT. Still, I'd start with QB, but I wouldn't dump Tyrod until another QB shows clear evidence that they are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherrybone Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Based on history ... nah. And what's the history? Or is it that you have some kind of crush on Donald and you're upset that I had the opportunity to talk sports with him before you did. He's not some A-list celebrity that people mob when they see him. In Plainfield he's just another guy when he's around. If you don't believe me don't respond. Go about your business. I'm not looking for your approval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Not much news there. I'm just disapointed they didn't go down to the supermarket and pick up a few good ones in QB aisle... If there were some good ones there you can be confident that they would have passed on by without making a purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think he meant Cripple Creek Ferry by Neil Young negatory 3rd...that's a good one but here's an interesting version to get your week started off right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 In my hometown, a local urologist was caught stealing reading glasses from a grocery store. Some people do things they have no reason to. Happens all the time. Men in your hometown have bad vision? There's a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Men in your hometown have bad vision? There's a surprise Doc was caught because he had the shakes and knocked over a display. Who would visit a urologist with hand tremors and 3.0 magnification glasses? Hope the guy doesn't perform vasectomies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Apropos of nothing,I always liked Donald Jones as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Doc was caught because he had the shakes and knocked over a display. Who would visit a urologist with hand tremors and 3.0 magnification glasses? Hope the guy doesn't perform vasectomies. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just wanted to chime in. D jones mentioned he had a long football talk with a bills fan back in nj over the weekend at his sons poo Warner thing. Mentioned it before going into how the offence need to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Just wanted to chime in. D jones mentioned he had a long football talk with a bills fan back in nj over the weekend at his sons poo Warner thing. Mentioned it before going into how the offence need to get going. Something about this just doesn't smell right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Murph is unlistenable Agreed. I know he gets paid by the team but both him and Chris Brown push the bounds of reason with their blatant homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Something about this just doesn't smell right. Classic fat finger flub Jms is good. If you want a show that trashes the bills it starts at 3pm est same station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Classic fat finger flub Jms is good. If you want a show that trashes the bills it starts at 3pm est same station. No worries. The JMS is standard fare for a team sponsored show. The show does feature guests from the world of football who offer good perspective on a number of interesting topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Something about this just doesn't smell right. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Why would you expect hot baseball milfs at a Pop Warner game? Sheesh That's a great question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeckMeat182 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 No worries. The JMS is standard fare for a team sponsored show. The show does feature guests from the world of football who offer good perspective on a number of interesting topics. For sure. I listen for just that reason and appreciated the work you put in here keeping us posted. I prefer to commiserate about the bills in my own head rather than getting all worked up in a avalanche of reactionary takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 For sure. I listen for just that reason and appreciated the work you put in here keeping us posted. I prefer to commiserate about the bills in my own head rather than getting all worked up in a avalanche of reactionary takes. Much appreciated and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 negatory 3rd...that's a good one but here's an interesting version to get your week started off right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 negatory 3rd...that's a good one but here's an interesting version to get your week started off right. Thank you kind Sir !! And duly noted. Danko would be proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 get going. Another March 2017...amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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