TC in St. Louis Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The offensive pass interference call on our guy that cost us a first down inside the 20.....in my opinion, that was not pass interference. The ball wasn't even in the air when those two guys banged into each other. They collided, the db fell on his butt, and a couple seconds later Tyrod escaped the pocket and threw the ball to #18. First down. Is it pass interference if the ball hasn't been thrown? If not, is it illegal contact if our guy knocks their guy on his butt....which was beyond the legal 5 yards to make contact....is our guy not allowed to jostle the defender if they engage? I think it was a bad call. Did it cost us the game? We'll never know. Jones could have made the catch, but it would have been an amazing catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm not a penalty expert, but I don't think PI was the right call since the ball wasn't thrown yet. But it sure looked like it should be some other type of penalty imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Looked to me like the DB wasn't allowing the receiver to run his route and got run into. I will give the DB props for the fantastic dive though, cause he wasn't pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 I just googled Offensive Pass Interference, and this is what the rule says: Offensive pass interference rules apply from the time the ball is snapped until the ball is touched. See Article 2 for prohibited acts while the ball is in the air and Article 4 for prohibited acts prior to the pass. So, if our guy knocked their guy over, it's a good call. It it was mutual contact, it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes be shoved the defender and extended his arms in the process to do it. That was a clear offensive PI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 You cant extend your arms as a WR to gain separation. Holmes did that a little bit. But it was more dramatic bc the defender fell. Had he not fallen perhaps no call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes it was pass interference Unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Looked like PI to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 From where the ref was positioned who made the call it sure looked like it. I don't think it should have been called. The db cut off Holmes route. That's not his fault. The ref saw the arms and the db fall back. So he called it. But at that point of the game it was weak. The non facemask call was just as bad IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Clear pushoff or comonly called Offensive Pass Interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 You cant extend your arms as a WR to gain separation. Holmes did that a little bit. But it was more dramatic bc the defender fell. Had he not fallen perhaps no call. Agree it was close but when the DB goes down it gets called Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Eh, it was the right call given the contact and the amazing acting job by the DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 it was PI, however it is how "Physical" Receivers like Brown, Jones, Bryant etc. get seperattion and they are allowed to do it because they are superstars. It's difficult for new Bills to learn how the rules apply to us and not other teams. The refs did not cost us todays game but same old same old we can't expect any breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It was OPI by the rule of law but I wish it was called more frequently/fairly. Easier to stomach if the rule applies evenly to Gronk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Looked to me like the DB wasn't allowing the receiver to run his route and got run into. I will give the DB props for the fantastic dive though, cause he wasn't pushed. Bingo. He was touched slightly, but that was one superb acting job, not offensive PI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Thought they blew that.. They definitely blew likely a game changing facemask on Shady on the final drive and the Holmes play never happens but oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Clear pushoff or comonly called Offensive Pass Interference No, very weak call. Holmes'arms weren't even fully extended into push position. When a DB cuts off your route it's not an offensive penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The receiver extended his arms when he broke the route, the defender friggin fell down, ofc it was PI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The offensive pass interference call on our guy that cost us a first down inside the 20.....in my opinion, that was not pass interference. The ball wasn't even in the air when those two guys banged into each other. They collided, the db fell on his butt, and a couple seconds later Tyrod escaped the pocket and threw the ball to #18. First down. Is it pass interference if the ball hasn't been thrown? If not, is it illegal contact if our guy knocks their guy on his butt....which was beyond the legal 5 yards to make contact....is our guy not allowed to jostle the defender if they engage? I think it was a bad call. Did it cost us the game? We'll never know. Jones could have made the catch, but it would have been an amazing catch. Ehh...it's Andre Holmes....if it's Antonio Brown or Grnok, nothing gets called. Gronk pushed off Bradham so badly once that Bradham went 5 yards back and he caught the ball and nothing was called...Bills always get the non-benefit of the doubt on calls...gotta earn them and we haven't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Ehh...it's Andre Holmes....if it's Antonio Brown or Grnok, nothing gets called. Gronk pushed off Bradham so badly once that Bradham went 5 yards back and he caught the ball and nothing was called...Bills always get the non-benefit of the doubt on calls...gotta earn them and we haven't A lot of other teams/players get those calls too... It's not the world against the Buffalo Bills you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Obvious pushoff to create separation. Good call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 No, very weak call. Holmes'arms weren't even fully extended into push position. When a DB cuts off your route it's not an offensive penalty. It was called correctly. The same like Blokes said is it isnt called correctly enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 A lot of other teams/players get those calls too... It's not the world against the Buffalo Bills you know... no of course not, it's Superstars versus other guys. We don't have enough superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Borderline call, but defensible. I wasn't too up in arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Let's be honest. We all know they never make that call if Tyrod Taylor doesn't (fill in the blank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Holmes ran into the defender, there was no push off by Holmes. Total BS call by the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff28 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I've watched it 20 times. How can anyone say Holmes extended his arms??? Not even close. It was mutual contact and the DB flopped. That play happens a dozen times in a game and never gets called, especially in the final minute! Awful call. Should have been 1st and 10 at the 20 with 53 seconds left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Holmes ran into the defender, there was no push off by Holmes. Total BS call by the refs. He definitely extended his arm in a pushoff that created the necessary separation against the DB. Easy and correct call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 A lot of other teams/players get those calls too... It's not the world against the Buffalo Bills you know... It's not, but there is no doubt we are on the bad end of more questionable calls than we receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) It's not, but there is no doubt we are on the bad end of more questionable calls than we receive. Have to start winning games, and winning games that matter to turn that around. All the bad that happens to this team is on them, the franchise etc, no one else. Edited September 17, 2017 by T-Bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes be shoved the defender and extended his arms in the process to do it. That was a clear offensive PI. but he didn't extend his arms. he ran into him but isn't he allowed to keep running. When our db stopped running on the ball in the endzone they he was called for the penalty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Henused Contact and oush off to create seperation. Called right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It was a very weak call imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It was a classic call that the refs can make to swing a game one way or another, we see them multiple times in a season. It was not the reason we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 He definitely extended his arm in a pushoff that created the necessary separation against the DB. Easy and correct call. They ran into each other, I saw no push off by Holmes. If it was so obvious, why did it take the official 10 minutes to throw the flag on that play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Dez Bryant just caught a TD in the end zone and it coulve been called offensive PI too. But it wasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 They ran into each other, I saw no push off by Holmes. If it was so obvious, why did it take the official 10 minutes to throw the flag on that play? 10 minutes? Come on Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Take a look at the touchdown Dez Bryant just caught, that is offensive PI. Textbook PI but doesn't count if you're a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 So.........when the O plays like crap for 55 minutes and can't muster a TD and a PI call at the end of the game on the final drive is what cost us the game, is all you're worried about, then it looks to me like we may have a bigger issue here. Aye Carumba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 10 minutes? Come on Mark. If it was so obvious, the flag would have been thrown immediately. It was thrown after the defender threw his arms up. Bull&^%* call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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