BILLiever55 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Off the top of my head, none really come to mind aside from Sanders. Drawing a blank on who would've filled that role in BAL and HOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Off the top of my head, none really come to mind aside from Sanders. Drawing a blank on who would've filled that role in BAL and HOU Andre Johnson and Demaryius Thomas both had the ability to get deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Every coordinator ever tried to utilize speed and ability to go deep if he had the receiver and qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The scheme needs to be adjusted to emphasize the player's strengths, not the other way around. This Bills team needs to be able to stretch the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I believe it was stated after the Sammy trade that Dennison wanted WRs that were effective horizontally rather than vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I believe it was stated after the Sammy trade that Dennison wanted WRs that were effective horizontally rather than vertically. The legitimate vertical threat still needs to be present to keep opposing defenses honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The scheme needs to be adjusted to emphasize the player's strengths, not the other way around. This Bills team needs to be able to stretch the field. Don't tell that to Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've never seen a fanbase go so nuts because we lost one guy on a poor unit. He didn't fit us that well but we were not trying to get rid of him. The scheme needs to be adjusted to emphasize the player's strengths, not the other way around. This Bills team needs to be able to stretch the field.this. We need a 2md te more than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Andre Johnson and Demaryius Thomas both had the ability to get deep. Sanders and Deandre would have been my guesses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Off the top of my head, none really come to mind aside from Sanders. Drawing a blank on who would've filled that role in BAL and HOU Torrey Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The legitimate vertical threat still needs to be present to keep opposing defenses honest. Of course, they must believe Zay or Holmes can fulfill that role. Just reiterating what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 jeez you guys worry to much about Schemes. Every offense has vertical deep threat throws. it doesn't matter if its west coast, north coast, south coast or east coast. If the guy gets open deep you throw it. we have deep threats on this team. Zay jones, and Charles Clay to name two. They actually threw the ball deep to Mathews once. People need to get open and a QB needs to see it. the only issue on this offense is the guy pulling the trigger. He doesn't see the field well at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Off the top of my head, none really come to mind aside from Sanders. Drawing a blank on who would've filled that role in BAL and HOU Jacoby Jones in Balt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If the WRs can get separation against man coverage it doesn't matter if they are "burners." From what we are reading right now all-22 is showing that the guys are not getting open in man coverage (other than Shady). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If the WRs can get separation against man coverage it doesn't matter if they are "burners." From what we are reading right now all-22 is showing that the guys are not getting open in man coverage (other than Shady). I fear this is going to be exposed in a major way starting this week in Carolina. Better defenses are going to shut down McCoy and the running game and invite Taylor to make a play against them. The problem is though he can't as demonstrated throughout the last few years. And in his defense though this is the worse group of WR's he's had since being in Buffalo which also doesn't bode well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Kaelin Clay can go deep. Also, re: needing a better TE2, I've thought O'Leary has been pretty solid so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 jeez you guys worry to much about Schemes. Every offense has vertical deep threat throws. it doesn't matter if its west coast, north coast, south coast or east coast. If the guy gets open deep you throw it. we have deep threats on this team. Zay jones, and Charles Clay to name two. They actually threw the ball deep to Mathews once. People need to get open and a QB needs to see it. the only issue on this offense is the guy pulling the trigger. He doesn't see the field well at all. FWIW, that deep throw to Matthews was there if Tyrod threw it to the back-shoulder. Come to think of it, I don't remember a Bills' QB throwing a back-shoulder stop-route anytime in the last 5 years. Kaelin Clay can go deep. John, you think everyone can go deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Andre Johnson and Demaryius Thomas both had the ability to get deep. Johnson basically had the ability to do whatever the hell he wanted... such a shame he was stuck in Houston on a bad team most of those years. never got anything close to the credit he deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 FWIW, that deep throw to Matthews was there if Tyrod threw it to the back-shoulder. Come to think of it, I don't remember a Bills' QB throwing a back-shoulder stop-route anytime in the last 5 years. John, you think everyone can go deep. Peterman in the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Zay Jones can get deep with good route running and quickness. He's not slow with 4.4 speed. Check out the Cover1 preseason analysis on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Don't tell that to Rex Rex has tried to force a round peg into a square hole his entire career. That's why he's so mediocre. I think McD will determine the players strengths and develop his scheme accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The legitimate vertical threat still needs to be present to keep opposing defenses honest. That's why we have the ultimate decoy, Lee Evans, running outside the stadium. His mere presence in orchard Park kept the Jets honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've never seen a fanbase go so nuts because we lost one guy on a poor unit. He didn't fit us that well but we were not trying to get rid of him. this. We need a 2md te more than anything Why the hell we don't have Barnidge is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Why the hell we don't have Barnidge is beyond me. Clay. O'Leary Thomas And is Barnidge aying anywhere right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 FWIW, that deep throw to Matthews was there if Tyrod threw it to the back-shoulder. Come to think of it, I don't remember a Bills' QB throwing a back-shoulder stop-route anytime in the last 5 years. John, you think everyone can go deep. I agree I havent seen it either. Matthews has the frame for that and enough speed to threaten enough over the top that it would be there when ever you want. Same goes with Zay. I dont expect the chemistry needed for that throw to be there with Matthews. To a lesser extent same goes with Jones. Much of the offseason and preseason he role was not definded until a few a weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb62 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think I remember a post regarding Sammy vs. Zay 40 times and they weren't that far off. Also, 40 times don't always relate to football speed (see Jerry Rice 40 time vs. his career). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 If the WRs can get separation against man coverage it doesn't matter if they are "burners." From what we are reading right now all-22 is showing that the guys are not getting open in man coverage (other than Shady). Nonsense. All you need to do is look at 40 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Nonsense. All you need to do is look at 40 times. Exactly, that's why Goodwin is a future Hall of Famer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That's why we have the ultimate decoy, Lee Evans, running outside the stadium. His mere presence in orchard Park kept the Jets honest. I miss me some Lee Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Jacoby Jones in Balt. I believe he had him in Houston as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The Bills Oline will need to give Taylor time for a longer pass play to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 The problem so far isn't the lack of burner speed but the ability to get separation, Clay excepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Off the top of my head, none really come to mind aside from Sanders. Drawing a blank on who would've filled that role in BAL and HOU Demaryius Thomas can get deep when he needs to also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 That's why we have the ultimate decoy, Lee Evans, running outside the stadium. His mere presence in orchard Park kept the Jets honest. He will be running in Virginia during Falcons game. https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/29431-va-northern-buffalo-bills-backers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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