Heitz Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) MG cut by Arizona too. Banyard will be fine. I don't understand why Bills fans aren't rooting for him instead of trying to tear him down? He looked really good in the preseason. I'm pretty sure the coaches know more than we do and want him on the team for a reason. We always want what we can't have Edited October 17, 2017 by Heitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) im confused, was not overpaying for a backup RB that hasnt done all that much mean the difference between missing and making the playoffs? Got nothing against Gillislee, but if people think hes worth that kinda cash to watch most of the game from the bench, then we really have problems here. Edited September 8, 2017 by bigduke6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 How well he fares could... could have just a bit to do with how well our offensive line plays. Enter Karlos. Enter TD Mike. Enter Rattlesnake Joe. It's all gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I think Banyard's run style suits the zone blocking scheme better, he has a good jump cut and vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 blah. Mike G. was too much for a backup RB. Money to be spent elsewhere. If Shady gets hurt, I think we will find another RB out there who can step in (D. Williams?). How well he fares could... could have just a bit to do with how well our offensive line plays. Enter Karlos. Enter TD Mike. Enter Rattlesnake Joe. It's all gravy. I totally forgot about Karlos. He did zilch after leaving Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 He wears #22. Nuff said. Just as Reggie Bush did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 ....whose crystal bawls forecasted Gilly's OBD performances?.....prolly several WTF's posted with his signing....so why can't Banyard be yet another find in the same vein?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 They saw something in Banyard they really liked over Williams, my guess is he could handle more of a workload if McCoy is injured? I'm not too worried about the backup position, even if Gillislee were still on the team he's a huge step back from McCoy and we'd be in trouble just like most teams who lose a top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 "We were able to let Mike Gillislee go because of J Williams." Just another lie they feed us. Wait till the Jets shred this team. The Jets defense could and will give us fits, but their offense will not shred our D, far from it, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) GPA? ROI We always want what we can't have even when what we have is not what we need but familiar You can't always get what you waaant NoYou can't always get what you waaant But if you try sometimes you get what you need Lets give Joe a little love can we ? No reason not to really. I think Banyard's run style suits the zone blocking scheme better, he has a good jump cut and vision. this is the score on him. fits well with O line scheme. does not matter how i felt about Mike Karlos, or Jonathan. Joe is our guy now ! Edited September 9, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Its Barnyard not Junkyard.I'm encouraging him to play like a junkyard dog. Grr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 I totally forgot about Karlos. He did zilch after leaving Buffalo. What a tremendous waste of natural talent. Such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Love me some Joe Banyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 ....whose crystal bawls forecasted Gilly's OBD performances?.....prolly several WTF's posted with his signing....so why can't Banyard be yet another find in the same vein?.... Because it would take away a reason to whine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 What a tremendous waste of natural talent. Such a shame. i know! He was so. Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 blah. Mike G. was too much for a backup RB. Money to be spent elsewhere. If Shady gets hurt, I think we will find another RB out there who can step in (D. Williams?). Still should have tendered him higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I like Gillisee as a player, but I don't buy the notion that Buffalo is weaker at RB without him. I saw nothing from Banyard in preseason that suggested he can't do for Buffalo what Gillislee did, and much to suggest he can and will. I also like that in Tolbert and Taiwan Jones, Buffalo has diversity in that they are completely different running backs. Their different characteristics and skill sets will allow the Bills to do different things than they could when depending on Shady and Gillislee and not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 blah. Mike G. was too much for a backup RB. Money to be spent elsewhere. If Shady gets hurt, I think we will find another RB out there who can step in (D. Williams?). I totally forgot about Karlos. He did zilch after leaving Buffalo. Deangelo Williams??? He's been a has-been for three years, but I get the point that if the OL is very good and there is sufficient passing threat, then there are a lot of RBs that might be reasonably productive. A lot of ifs there, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Still should have tendered him higher. absolutely on Mike G Edited September 9, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Still should have tendered him higher. absolutely on Mike G I'm still not convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I'm still not convinced. if he went to the Vikings (for example) no one would care. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 That's the spirit. Bet your family/friends are really looking forward to watching the game with you this Sunday. (sarcasm) :lol: Thats the attitude polack! im all prepped for sunday. I think were gonna surprise some people and play better than we imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTarmy Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I dont think the issue was ever not resigning TD Mike, the issue was not putting a higher round tender on him. Should have learned from the lesson the year before with Hogan. To your point on Banyard, reminds me a lot of TD Mike. But he has to show he can hold onto the ball. Spot on point and again proves Whaley needed to go. His mismanagement of picks, caps and inability to put appropriate tenders on certain players were all fireable offenses!!! I'm all for giving Joe a chance and imo...RBs are done a dozen anyways. That said, Whaley should've given him a higher tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I dont think the issue was ever not resigning TD Mike, the issue was not putting a higher round tender on him. Should have learned from the lesson the year before with Hogan. To your point on Banyard, reminds me a lot of TD Mike. But he has to show he can hold onto the ball. they should've put a higher tender on hogan, but if backup RBs are a dime a dozen, why put the higher price tag that no one would've taken? As Whaley said, they got R5 pick for a guy they took off the street... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Just read a post saying the Bills should've retained Gillislee because Joe Banyard stinks and doesn't compare to him. But why? Before he signed to the Bills' practice squad in 2015 Gillislee had rushed for a grand total of 21 yards in his first 2.5 seasons in the NFL. He was cut from the Dolphins then released from the Cardinals' practice squad after a month. Gillislee is like many professional running backs out there - he's a guy who can do some good things when he's given an opportunity. Hence the term 'dime-a-dozen'. So now Banyard is getting his opportunity with the Bills. Why can't Banyard do what Gillislee did? Even though he's 28 he has little-to-no wear-and-tear on his body. Roughly the same height and weight as Gillislee. Banyard ran a 4.46 40 at the combine years ago compared to Gillislee's 4.57. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-A5APPj-GM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnw-9Cmi_jk Because TD Mike is better and was a proven score machine at the time they whiffed on TD Mike. Also no one ever heard of Mr Banyard as he was not on Bills radar or roster. This argument you profess here would be like I should have never purchased that Saturn rocket as I should have waited and purchased a Shuttle when they built them many years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Because TD Mike is better and was a proven score machine at the time they whiffed on TD Mike. Also no one ever heard of Mr Banyard as he was not on Bills radar or roster. This argument you profess here would be like I should have never purchased that Saturn rocket as I should have waited and purchased a Shuttle when they built them many years later. what does that first sentence even mean? We know mike is better because he had one good season? Gillislee capitalized on an opportunity. It's something that happens in the NFL. Banyard has yet to have his opportunity. This is his chance (unless McD gives Tolbert all the backup touches.). If Banyard gets his chance, I think he does just fine. He might not get a 4 million dollar contract, but I don't think I'll be upset with his play. One cut, go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Rather would see Jwill over Barnyard but whatevs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 what does that first sentence even mean? We know mike is better because he had one good season? Gillislee capitalized on an opportunity. It's something that happens in the NFL. Banyard has yet to have his opportunity. This is his chance (unless McD gives Tolbert all the backup touches.). If Banyard gets his chance, I think he does just fine. He might not get a 4 million dollar contract, but I don't think I'll be upset with his play. One cut, go. ?? first sentence means: TD Mike is better and was a proven score machine at the time they whiffed on TD Mike. Also no one ever heard of Mr Banyard as he was not on Bills radar or roster. Banyard did not exist on Bills until this year. The OP is trying to compare the two when TD Mike was let go before anyone even knew Banyard existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 ?? first sentence means: TD Mike is better and was a proven score machine at the time they whiffed on TD Mike. Also no one ever heard of Mr Banyard as he was not on Bills radar or roster. Banyard did not exist on Bills until this year. The OP is trying to compare the two when TD Mike was let go before anyone even knew Banyard existed. I can't tell which is more awful - your first post, or this post badly attempting to explain your first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) I can't tell which is more awful - your first post, or this post badly attempting to explain your first post. Ok let me try to speak easier for you. Comparing TD Mike being let go because Banyard could do the same is not valid as Banyard did not exist at the time TD Mike was let go. Edited September 9, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Ok let me try to speak easier for you. Comparing TD Mike being let go because Banyard could do the same is not valid as Banyard did not exist at the time TD Mike was let go. But JWill was and they thought he'd replace MG. And then JB beat him out. Edited September 9, 2017 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Barnyard is a cast off from the Jacksonville Jags, give me a break. A left over from a team even worse than Buffalo just what we need. When Shady blows a hamstring, which he will, you Banyard backers will be eating a scizzzz sandwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Barnyard is a cast off from the Jacksonville Jags, give me a break. A left over from a team even worse than Buffalo just what we need. When Shady blows a hamstring, which he will, you Banyard backers will be eating a scizzzz sandwich. So essentially nothing would have changed if they'd kept MG. Seeing as how he's strictly a backup RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 Ok let me try to speak easier for you. Comparing TD Mike being let go because Banyard could do the same is not valid as Banyard did not exist at the time TD Mike was let go. Banyard existed. He was born in 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 So essentially nothing would have changed if they'd kept MG. Seeing as how he's strictly a backup RB. MG is proven and an explosive player. Banyard is a big slow less talented castoff from the Jags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 9, 2017 Author Share Posted September 9, 2017 So essentially nothing would have changed if they'd kept MG. Seeing as how he's strictly a backup RB. Yep. Gillslee was a "cast-off" from the Dolphins and Cardinals. MG is proven and an explosive player. Banyard is a big slow less talented castoff from the Jags. Banyard is faster than Gillislee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yep. Gillslee was a "cast-off" from the Dolphins and Cardinals. Banyard is faster than Gillislee. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Bills RB coach came from the Jags, so must have seen something in Banyard he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I bet if roles were reversed, Banyard scores on all 3 gilly tds last thurs <ducks> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 MG is proven and an explosive player. Banyard is a big slow less talented castoff from the Jags. He wasn't until he played behind our O line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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