Stephon Gilmore quietly disses Buffalo Bills on Twitter

[jimmy10]

Hey, if you can't beat 5'8" lacrosse players from New Jersey, you might as well join them.

[thebandit27]

I don't know about being at Sherman's level, I still think he will have issues tackling. But if anyone can correct his tackling issues, it's Belichek.

 

Unfortunately, good CB's are hard to retain after their rookie deals as their second contract are usually astronomical.

Agreed on all...

 

Seems like effectively re-signing corners requires being proactive at the 3-year benchmark.

 

That FA money is so plentiful and enticing

[GunnerBill]

How did the Thursday night week 2 game against the Jets not make his lowlights film? One of the worst CB performances I've ever witnessed.

 

Yea I am a big Gilmore fan but he was awful against the Jets. He had a very good season otherwise. There was a weakness at corner last year on the Bills..... but the weak link is sill here.... hopefully he is primed for a rebound of his own.

Hey, if you can't beat 5'8" lacrosse players from New Jersey, you might as well join them.

 

Has Hogan lost 5 inches somewhere?

[eball]

I find myself in the strange position of admitting I've been a Gilmore fan and defender, yet at the same time I've watched games and grimaced at his play. I think he's a terrible tackler with poor technique, and there's no question he gave up a bunch of big plays.

 

I'm not rooting against him, but I'll be curious to see how he performs under Belichick. I'm guessing we'll find out whether or not it was "communication issues" that occasionally derailed his play in Buffalo.

[Gugny]

I find myself in the strange position of admitting I've been a Gilmore fan and defender, yet at the same time I've watched games and grimaced at his play. I think he's a terrible tackler with poor technique, and there's no question he gave up a bunch of big plays.

 

I'm not rooting against him, but I'll be curious to see how he performs under Belichick. I'm guessing we'll find out whether or not it was "communication issues" that occasionally derailed his play in Buffalo.

 

This sums up - 100% perfectly and accurately - how I have felt, and still feel, about Gilmore.

[GunnerBill]

I find myself in the strange position of admitting I've been a Gilmore fan and defender, yet at the same time I've watched games and grimaced at his play. I think he's a terrible tackler with poor technique, and there's no question he gave up a bunch of big plays.

 

I'm not rooting against him, but I'll be curious to see how he performs under Belichick. I'm guessing we'll find out whether or not it was "communication issues" that occasionally derailed his play in Buffalo.

 

He will be a stud. I have not a single doubt. He was one of he best players on this roster for all of his time here.

 

And I am not just someone who always talks up people who leave the Bills.... I don't think Zach Brown or Robert Woods are going to light it up with their new squads... not did I think Levitre was going to be the best guard in the league or Byrd the best safety..... I just think Gilmore is already a top 12 corner in the NFL with potential to be top 5 or 6. I'd have re-signed him here.... even allowing for the big money. In my view he is a cornerstone player you don't let walk.

 

Having said all that.... I do like the Tre White pick. I think he will be a solid starter as a rookie and can himself push to be in that top 15 corners in the league with time and development. I just think it is very likely that he will give up more catches and yards in 2017 than Gilmore in 2016 and particularly 2015.

[SoulMan]

Can't wait to see how the Patsies and Belly handle his finger pointing after being burned.

Yep

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Jonah Javad from WGRZ had a great comeback for Gilmore: https://www.facebook.com/jonahjavadtv/videos/1578773798820936/

 

Yep, in case anyone has missed Gilmore play, now they can see his highlights...

 

My new favorite TV personality.

[Runninrams]

Yep

 

difference is in New England he knows he doesnt have to do everything himself because he actually has competent safeties over the top....huge difference knowing McCourty is back there patrolling.

 

funny, the same things were said about Revis coming to NE....he's washed up, he's slow, he isnt good anymore, he's not the old Revis...then poof, like "magic", put him in a good situation and he's vintage Revis

Edited July 19, 2017 by Runninrams

[GunnerBill]

 

difference is in New England he knows he doesnt have to do everything himself because he actually has competent safeties over the top....huge difference knowing McCourty is back there patrolling

 

Yea.... try being a cornerback relying on Meeks, Duke and the other cast of characters who played safety for the Bills last year.

[thebandit27]

 

He will be a stud. I have not a single doubt. He was one of he best players on this roster for all of his time here.

 

And I am not just someone who always talks up people who leave the Bills.... I don't think Zach Brown or Robert Woods are going to light it up with their new squads... not did I think Levitre was going to be the best guard in the league or Byrd the best safety..... I just think Gilmore is already a top 12 corner in the NFL with potential to be top 5 or 6. I'd have re-signed him here.... even allowing for the big money. In my view he is a cornerstone player you don't let walk.

 

Having said all that.... I do like the Tre White pick. I think he will be a solid starter as a rookie and can himself push to be in that top 15 corners in the league with time and development. I just think it is very likely that he will give up more catches and yards in 2017 than Gilmore in 2016 and particularly 2015.

 

Nailed it

[CommonCents]

 

Nailed it

I'm holding you both accountable on this! I'm still sticking to this signing being a mistake for the Pats, I would have paid Bouye.

[thebandit27]

I'm holding you both accountable on this! I'm still sticking to this signing being a mistake for the Pats, I would have paid Bouye.

 

I would've been upset with paying Bouye. We're talking about a guy that's only a year younger than Gilmore, but has a total of 19 career starts (nearly all of which came in the slot--not on the boundary) and only 1 year of solid productivity.

[GunnerBill]

I'm holding you both accountable on this! I'm still sticking to this signing being a mistake for the Pats, I would have paid Bouye.

 

I like Bouye but he is a bit more of a one year wonder. He took a huge step this year. Gilmore has been consistently good over 5 years with the exception of that year he played 6 games with 1 arm.

[C.Biscuit97]

 

He will be a stud. I have not a single doubt. He was one of he best players on this roster for all of his time here.

 

And I am not just someone who always talks up people who leave the Bills.... I don't think Zach Brown or Robert Woods are going to light it up with their new squads... not did I think Levitre was going to be the best guard in the league or Byrd the best safety..... I just think Gilmore is already a top 12 corner in the NFL with potential to be top 5 or 6. I'd have re-signed him here.... even allowing for the big money. In my view he is a cornerstone player you don't let walk.

 

Having said all that.... I do like the Tre White pick. I think he will be a solid starter as a rookie and can himself push to be in that top 15 corners in the league with time and development. I just think it is very likely that he will give up more catches and yards in 2017 than Gilmore in 2016 and particularly 2015.

Such a good post. If he was on another team other than the Bills, he would in the discussion for top cb. But for whatever reason (because he doesn't smile or celebrate), Bills fans decided they didn't like him. I get more convinced that people don't watch other teams play if they harp on Gilmore giving up catches and yards. Despite our high school offense, teams are throwing the ball for massive yard totals more than ever.

 

And I like White. Seems like a great kid. But he has a long way to go before getting on Gilmore's level, though I'm sure fans will say he's better right now. And it's just another example of the Bills spinning their wheels of letting a good player go and drafting his replacement with a high pick. These stupid moves are what keeps a team out of the playoffs 17 years in a row.

[CommonCents]

 

I would've been upset with paying Bouye. We're talking about a guy that's only a year younger than Gilmore, but has a total of 19 career starts (nearly all of which came in the slot--not on the boundary) and only 1 year of solid productivity.

I'm not saying in Buffalo, I'm talking about a team that had all that space like the Pats. They should have signed Bouye, Gilmore will prove to be a mistake but that wart won't show up until they lose some of that supporting cast.

 

It's easy to point to Gilmore's experience over Bouye's. IMO that's lazy. He was a UDFA and worked for his chance and finally solidified himself. Quite the opposite of Gilmore.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-time-to-start-talking-about-texans-cb-a-j-bouye

 

When he tears it up again this season, the next easiest thing to do will be to claim that no one could have expected him to repeat last years performance.

Edited July 19, 2017 by Commonsense

[Runninrams]

I'm not saying in Buffalo, I'm talking about a team that had all that space like the Pats. They should have signed Bouye, Gilmore will prove to be a mistake but that wart won't show up until they lose some of that supporting cast.

 

It's easy to point to Gilmore's experience over Bouye's. IMO that's lazy. He was a UDFA and worked for his chance and finally solidified himself. Quite the opposite of Gilmore.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-time-to-start-talking-about-texans-cb-a-j-bouye

 

When he tears it up again this season, the next easiest thing to do will be to claim that no one could have expected him to repeat last years performance.

 

Bouye is going to get exposed, bad. He has 1 year as a starter where he played well but wasnt great. Also helps being in that stacked Texans defense.

 

Let's see how good he is when he's on an island instead of going against 2's and 3's while Jonathan Joseph sheltering him and taking the #1 matchup.

 

You dont drop 13.5 a year on a CB that has only been a starter for 1 year.

[thebandit27]

I'm not saying in Buffalo, I'm talking about a team that had all that space like the Pats. They should have signed Bouye, Gilmore will prove to be a mistake but that wart won't show up until they lose some of that supporting cast.

 

It's easy to point to Gilmore's experience over Bouye's. IMO that's lazy. He was a UDFA and worked for his chance and finally solidified himself. Quite the opposite of Gilmore.

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-time-to-start-talking-about-texans-cb-a-j-bouye

 

When he tears it up again this season, the next easiest thing to do will be to claim that no one could have expected him to repeat last years performance.

 

Lazy? It's lazy to state the fact that Bouye has only 19 games of starting experience, and that very few of that work has come as a boundary corner?

 

IMO, lazy is tossing aside 5 years of performance from a former 1st round pick and labeling a guy that cannot possibly be characterized as anything more than a one-year wonder at this juncture as the next big thing...but that's just me.

 

As for the inevitability of his success this year, well, I don't remember saying that he won't have another good season. I remember saying that I feel a lot better trusting Gilmore to perform as a boundary corner than paying a (primarily) slot guy $11M AAV to play boundary corner with 19 career starts. You might even say that such thinking qualifies as "Commonsense"

[GunnerBill]

I am not anti-Bouye. I think he will be a stud in Jacksonville as well - he and Ramsey has the chance to be the best CB tandem in the NFL this year. I just don't think signing someone as good as Stephon can be a mistake.

[thebandit27]

 

Bouye is going to get exposed, bad. He has 1 year as a starter where he played well but wasnt great. Also helps being in that stacked Texans defense.

 

Let's see how good he is when he's on an island instead of going against 2's and 3's while Jonathan Joseph sheltering him and taking the #1 matchup.

 

You dont drop 13.5 a year on a CB that has only been a starter for 1 year.

 

I don't know about that; he actually will be surrounded by a TON of talent in Jacksonville. The front-4 is quite nasty with Calais Campbell joining Malik Jackson, Ngakoue, and Dante Fowler. They have Telvin Smith and Myles Jack at LB. Their secondary features Jalen Ramsey alongside former pro bowler Tayshaun Gipson and FA acquisition Barry Church.

[CommonCents]

 

I don't know about that; he actually will be surrounded by a TON of talent in Jacksonville. The front-4 is quite nasty with Calais Campbell joining Malik Jackson, Ngakoue, and Dante Fowler. They have Telvin Smith and Myles Jack at LB. Their secondary features Jalen Ramsey alongside former pro bowler Tayshaun Gipson and FA acquisition Barry Church.

I thought you wrote that response at first glance I was about to flip over my keyboard. Jacksonville is stacked, anyone that loves FF should snag that defense.

 

I made the comment about it being "lazy" because anyone can see that he has a limited amount of starts. If you have watched him play in a handful of those games I'd like to know where we differ on him. It's hard to say his "compete level" is so much different than a guy like Gilmore because let's face it they all compete their asses of most the times. These GMs get paid the big bucks they need to do more than say Gilmore has had more games played and is a proven NFL starter. Bouye is a UDFA turned stud who would have been a perfect with Butler and ultimately his replacement. It's a mistake by BB we can revisit it.

 

So I will be the lazy one, Bouye has "IT" whatever it is. He is a guy that you can win with and not in spite of. Sorry if the lazy comment was abrasive in the previous post.

[bmur66]

His friends and family will be able to watch him play on TV now because the Pats get national coverage and the Bills don't. How is saying that dissing the Bills? He is just stating a fact. Sounds more like a Bills fan inferiority complex kicking in to me.

 

Other than that I hope the non-tackling, small shouldered cornerback does well.

[Captain Murica]

His friends and family will be able to watch him play on TV now because the Pats get national coverage and the Bills don't. How is saying that dissing the Bills? He is just stating a fact. Sounds more like a Bills fan inferiority complex kicking in to me.

 

Other than that I hope the non-tackling, small shouldered cornerback does well.

Could also say it's not a inferiority complex, that we are just inferior.

[Blokestradamus]

TBN got involved. I hate agreeing with them. Jonah knows how to get himself exposure, I doubt he stays local for long.

 

http://buffalonews.com/2017/07/19/jonah-javads-hot-gilmore-take-reaction/

[C.Biscuit97]

TBN got involved. I hate agreeing with them. Jonah knows how to get himself exposure, I doubt he stays local for long.

 

http://buffalonews.com/2017/07/19/jonah-javads-hot-gilmore-take-reaction/

He's a hobbit. And that writer is dead on. He's been there since I was a kid. He's very good. Edited July 19, 2017 by C.Biscuit97

[HappyDays]

TBN got involved. I hate agreeing with them. Jonah knows how to get himself exposure, I doubt he stays local for long.

 

http://buffalonews.com/2017/07/19/jonah-javads-hot-gilmore-take-reaction/

But they do the same whining "over-sensitive" crap in the article itself:

 

Javad and Filipowski were just having fun by appealing to sensitive Bills fans who over-react to every perceived slight.

 

Laugh if you will. But I imagine many people nationally are laughing at Buffalo fans for being so sensitive.

"How dare Bills fans overreact at perceived slights. Surely every other fan in the country is laughing at us."

 

That was the fastest I've ever seen an article defeat its own point.

[Blokestradamus]

He's a hobbit. And that writer is dead on. He's been there since I was a kid. He's very good.

 

Bills fans are easy to piss off. I'm an outsider and I know how to push buttons with the natives. In a world where retweets and clicks matter (I know, I've done the blogging thing), Jonah knows how to do that on a larger platform. I know a couple of others that also like to partake in riling up the quick-to-anger brigade in the Mafia. Good on them.

 

Buffalo against the world is a fight that Buffalo wants and the world couldn't give a **** about. It's cute.

[Blokestradamus]

Pretty much.

 

Nobody gives a **** about Buffalo outside of people that live there or have lived there.(or root for the Sabres/Bills but haven't lived there)

 

Accept it and say !@#$ it.

 

I've never set foot in the US, let alone Buffalo and there's some slander that I won't let slide. When Donte Whitner leaves and immediately (and continually) talks **** about the fanbase, the city and the team, that guy can !@#$ himself with a red hot poker.

 

Stephon dealt with a lot of abuse from Bills fans, as did his wife, and they've not taken any big swings at anyone on the way out. As far as I'm concerned, he's classier than many of those that now consider him the enemy because of a sport.

[May Day 10]

Pretty much.

 

Nobody gives a **** about Buffalo outside of people that live there or have lived there.(or root for the Sabres/Bills but haven't lived there)

 

Accept it and say !@#$ it.

 

This is true.... but relevancy would come in each sport if the corresponding teams were relevant. If the Bills were good, maybe on the level of KC, Baltimore, Denver, etc.... a perennial playoff contender who stands a chance of beating NE more frequently than the olympics happen.... then maybe people can call to arms and fan the flames. What is going to happen now is Gilmore is going to be/look very good, New England is going to kick the Bills' teeth in this year, and probably go on to at least the AFC Championship Game.

 

Bills fans getting bent out of shape because a player says New England is on National TV more... is kind of pathetic and embarrassing. It is small time. If I saw the quote in a vacuum, I wouldnt have thought twice about it.

Edited July 19, 2017 by May Day 10

[BillsFan4]

yes he is. Hogan , Gilly and Gilmore got called up to the big leagues from the farm team AND got paid. doesnt get much better than that. winning cures everything....

 

go win some games, have a star QB and you'll get the TV coverage, well, not really because the franchise isn't really marketable... well.... at least start winning games and making the playoffs, that's a start.

 

Eh, I think a lot of it comes down to winning. From what I remember, the Bills were a pretty marketable team back in the glory years of the '90's. They were actually one of those trendy teams that gathered bandwagon fans. You'd see people wearing Bills gear all around the country, and even the world. They'd have bills apparel in Hollywood movies and you'd even see celebrities wearing Bills gear.

 

It would probably take an amazing run of winning/championship(s) to get anywhere near the marketability level of the top teams, especially after 17yrs of total irrelevance. But like you said, start winning games and get a star QB and we will get more TV coverage for sure.

[Gugny]

Eh, I think a lot of it comes down to winning. From what I remember, the Bills were a pretty marketable team back in the glory years of the '90's. They were actually one of those trendy teams that gathered bandwagon fans. You'd see people wearing Bills gear all around the country, and even the world. They'd have bills apparel in Hollywood movies and you'd even see celebrities wearing Bills gear.

 

It would probably take an amazing run of winning/championship(s) to get anywhere near the marketability level of the top teams, especially after 17yrs of total irrelevance. But like you said, start winning games and get a star QB and we will get more TV coverage for sure.

 

The gear they were wearing around the world were Bills Super Bowl Champions shirts and hats.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

I love the bills fan self-loathing in this thread.

 

Love it.

[JerseyBills]

 

difference is in New England he knows he doesnt have to do everything himself because he actually has competent safeties over the top....huge difference knowing McCourty is back there patrolling.

 

funny, the same things were said about Revis coming to NE....he's washed up, he's slow, he isnt good anymore, he's not the old Revis...then poof, like "magic", put him in a good situation and he's vintage Revis

As Bills fans, Gilmore has been one of the most heavily debated player since he got here. And the subject matter has always been "Is he elite?".. When we have an elite player, these debates don't happen , because that players film speaks for itself.

 

Sammy,Dareus,McCoy for example will get debated about but it's "Can Sammy stay healthy?" He's consistently a stud when healthy.

 

"Can Dareus stay out of trouble?" He's clearly dominant when on the field.

 

"Is Shady past his prime?" He's clearly an elite RB..

 

So why is it year after year so many Bills fans have questioned whether Gilmore is an elite CB? Because he's not one!

He shows flashes, but has been consistently inconsistent.

 

Also, He avoids tackling at all costs and is the opposite of a leader... He got outplayed by a rookie 2 years ago and last year he was extremely inconsistent.

 

I'm personally not offended at all by this tweet. But comparing him to Revis? Ppl calling him a top 15 cb? I just don't see it at all..I'm thrilled we didn't pay him. Hyde/White> Gilmore.. That extra TV time will only bring the debates we've been having to a national audience.. He's an above average CB, nothing special about him.

Edited July 19, 2017 by JerseyBills

[Boatdrinks]

difference is in New England he knows he doesnt have to do everything himself because he actually has competent safeties over the top....huge difference knowing McCourty is back there patrolling.

 

funny, the same things were said about Revis coming to NE....he's washed up, he's slow, he isnt good anymore, he's not the old Revis...then poof, like "magic", put him in a good situation and he's vintage Revis

SG is and never will be half the player Revis was or is now. While the S situation in BUF was questionable , SG didn't have to do " everything" hims of. That's excuse making and ridiculous. The Bills played mostly man coverage. SG had one man to cover. The only difference in NE is they have a quarterback capable of winning any game and top quality defensive coaching. The player he was in BUF is exactly the player he is. He'll be along for the ride in NE. Good , but not great. Not a Revis type difference maker.

[Runninrams]

As Bills fans, Gilmore has been one of the most heavily debated player since he got here. And the subject matter has always been "Is he elite?".. When we have an elite player, these debates don't happen , because that players film speaks for itself.

 

Sammy,Dareus,McCoy for example will get debated about but it's "Can Sammy stay healthy?" He's consistently a stud when healthy.

 

"Can Dareus stay out of trouble?" He's clearly dominant when on the field.

 

"Is Shady past his prime?" He's clearly an elite RB..

 

So why is it year after year so many Bills fans have questioned whether Gilmore is an elite CB? Because he's not one!

He shows flashes, but has been consistently inconsistent.

 

Also, He avoids tackling at all costs and is the opposite of a leader... He got outplayed by a rookie 2 years ago and last year he was extremely inconsistent.

 

I'm personally not offended at all by this tweet. But comparing him to Revis? Ppl calling him a top 15 cb? I just don't see it at all..I'm thrilled we didn't pay him. Hyde/White> Gilmore.. That extra TV time will only bring the debates we've been having to a national audience.. He's an above average CB, nothing special about him.

 

 

because you need to see elite players to know what 1 looks like...they dont exist in Buffalo

[26CornerBlitz]

 

 

because you need to see elite players to know what 1 looks like...they dont exist in Buffalo

 

LeSean McCoy says "hello".

[GG]

 

The gear they were wearing around the world were Bills Super Bowl Champions shirts and hats.

 

I thought it was Buffalo Bills Stanley Cup Champions?

[Sweats]

I don't know why anyone would really even care what the guy thinks...........he's not that good, he can't run a route to save his life and gets torched constantly.

 

He's a douche-nozzle, with limited skills.

 

[Punching Bag]

Sad thing is he may very well end up with a SB ring.

 

Even sadder thing is some Bills "fans" on this board will be rooting for him to get one.

I don't even see how it is much of a shot at buffalo, it doesn't even mention buffalo, but like usual bills fans take it personally. It was an innocent tweet about being excited to play more prime time games this year, that's all.

 

Yes it was a shot at "his people" who are too cheap for DirectTV and not think it is worth it to find a Bills bar to watch HIM play. Some people. Fit in with some fans.

Lol I know. So get the pitchforks ready to run another talented player out of town!

 

If you cannot perform because you cannot stay healthy in NFL there is no magic blue pill.

I don't get why people get upset over stuff like this. He moved from literally the most insignificant team in the NFL to the one that is held in the highest regard. It sucks that Buffalo is but a blip in the NFL but it's true.

 

Change alias to BostonBaumer and we will be more significant.

[3rdand12]

He seems a simple man. if you have listened to him speak you might think the same. i expect he means no harm.

 

i look forward to watching a couple patriots games early on, just to see how he does, same with TD Mike.

Don't hate on anyone. But i really never got on board with Stephon when he was drafted. The Man can play football though.

 

Go Ronald Darby !!