Mark Vader Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Maybe he brings JJ WATT with him. If not, I'll be happy with Clowney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Funny, depressing and true. We are loading up the front office to build the team to unseat the Pats in 2019. Watch out 42 year old Tommy Boy, we're coming for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 So are we off-season champs again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) So are we off-season champs again? At least we are not doing this so we can declare ourselves off-season champs! Edited May 16, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 so this is a pretty big GAINE for the Bills' FO? Ill see myself out. LOL My prediction: if they find a franchise qb, they will be successful. If not, they won't be. two words...Luke Falk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yes, they hired 2 great candidates. The scouts are the tougher part to replace because no one will okay a lateral move. We are going to be inexperienced there. At the same time it is easier to hire an entry level person or middle management than the people leading the department. Just keep doing well... This move was a lateral move that no one would ok. "It's generally a pretty lateral move, but Brian was excited about building this and starting this," Beane told Buffalobills.com. "I think partnering with me and Joe was attractive. I know Brian and who he is to the core and trust that he's going to be a big time asset." Its not as difficult as you are making it out to be. These fo know that if they continously block moves for bright young up and comers regardless of position that these guys will leave or go else where to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) This move was a lateral move that no one would ok. "It's generally a pretty lateral move, but Brian was excited about building this and starting this," Beane told Buffalobills.com. "I think partnering with me and Joe was attractive. I know Brian and who he is to the core and trust that he's going to be a big time asset." Its not as difficult as you are making it out to be. These fo know that if they continously block moves for bright young up and comers regardless of position that these guys will leave or go else where to begin with. I'm not trying to make it overly difficult. At the same time I understand the process as well as anyone here (without sounding like an A-hole). I spent 8 years in a front office and have the 1st hand knowledge of how it works. It isn't as easy as just call some people and fill out the group. They are off to a GREAT start. If it continues this way we should all be thrilled. They still need to add A LOT more people that share in their philosophy. It will not be an easy task. That doesn't mean that it can't be done. My whole point this entire time is that you need to cross all of you "t's" and dot your "i's." There isn't room for mistakes. It's a difficult enough business as it is. They are really flourishing at the moment but there is a lot of work still to do. Edited May 16, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Cthulhu Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Now the three of them need to throw a sock party for Russ Brandon, and we're all set!! Good stuff. Honestly with this latest hire I think the Russ factor has been effectively neutralized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Having actual experience does NOT make you an A-hole. But it does not preclude that option either! But seriously, I get where you are coming from. We've got some great chiefs, but we still need some awesome guys who will be hitting the road and doing the dirty work. Fingers crossed for the best. You can only build successfully through the draft if you have the best intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm not try to make it overly difficult. At the same time I understand the process as well as anyone here (without sound like an A-hole). I spent 8 years in a front office and have the 1st hand knowledge of how it works. It isn't as easy as just call some people and fill out the group. They are off to a GREAT start. If it continues this way we should all be thrilled. They still need to add A LOT more people that share in their philosophy. It will not be an easy task. That doesn't mean that it can't be done. My whole point this entire time is that you need to cross all of you "t's" and dot your "i's." There isn't room for mistakes. It's a difficult enough business as it is. They are really flourishing at the moment but there is a lot of work still to do.Thats nice. Im not trying to sound like a know it all, but theres is more than one way to skin a cat. In all the other threads I hintes that they have had a wish list all along of people that share there vision. If another team blocks it oh well move on to the next person that shares the vision, philosophy, and loyalty that these folks do. It isnt all doom and gloom. Yea some organizations are likely to block a move. Not all. These organizations know that in order to keep high quality people thye have to allow them the opportunity for advancement, if that means in title, pay, or what have you regardless of if it is a lateral move or not. Im not worried. This group from the get go likely had a plan. Mcdermott doesnt seem like a loud mouth blowhard that rests on his past accomplishments as Rex did. To the contrary Mcdermott seems like the kind of guy hat had a plan, work ethic for days, and the determination to do everything in his power to put this team in a position to succeed. Beane shares that same vibe. It might be these guys first rodeo per se, but they are quickly putting together something very promising and there is literally zero need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The Bills actually have a respectable FO. Been a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Thats nice. Im not trying to sound like a know it all, but theres is more than one way to skin a cat. In all the other threads I hintes that they have had a wish list all along of people that share there vision. If another team blocks it oh well move on to the next person that shares the vision, philosophy, and loyalty that these folks do. It isnt all doom and gloom. Yea some organizations are likely to block a move. Not all. These organizations know that in order to keep high quality people thye have to allow them the opportunity for advancement, if that means in title, pay, or what have you regardless of if it is a lateral move or not. Im not worried. This group from the get go likely had a plan. Mcdermott doesnt seem like a loud mouth blowhard that rests on his past accomplishments as Rex did. To the contrary Mcdermott seems like the kind of guy hat had a plan, work ethic for days, and the determination to do everything in his power to put this team in a position to succeed. Beane shares that same vibe. It might be these guys first rodeo per se, but they are quickly putting together something very promising and there is literally zero need to worry. To be clear they certainly have a plan and are off to a fantastic start. I don't see teams letting scouts go very easily. They don't have to. They are more likely to let people go for advancement but there are only so many advanced positions. They've flourished with the top people which is the most important part. I'm not even that concerned with the rest of the group. I maintain that they should have waited for Beane to be aboard to get his opinion. There was no downside. It might not matter at all. It's their 1st time and they will make some mistakes. In general I am really happy with the way that things are going (at least on paper). The Bills are assembling a group that is highly respected around the league. It is a welcome change from Rex and his empty promises. I hope that it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 This reminds me of when the Bills had Polian, John Butler and AJ Smith in the FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 This reminds me of when the Bills had Polian, John Butler and AJ Smith in the FO Let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Love it, thanks Pegs!!! Russ Brandon is becoming more and more irrelevant every day! Love it, thanks Pegs!!! Russ Brandon is becoming more and more irrelevant every day! trust me, the new FO has zero ties to Russ Brandon, and won't ever really need his services imo...if nothing else, I'm assuming, at least, by default, he has been phased out of football ops completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Sal MaioranaVerified account @salmaiorana 2h2 hours ago More These guys wear suits and ties so it's tough to get a read, but seems like #Bills are building solidly. http://on.rocne.ws/2rjkt51 via @DandC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 We were fully pregnant last offseason according to Rex Rumor is Rob unwittingly ate the baby cuz they named it Ruth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 LOL two words...Luke Falk ^^Yeah this guy knows whats up. #FalkFlock2k17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Two of our GM candidates on the staff, nice job. Filling in the positions from the top down. Keep it up! not entirely accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Thats nice. Im not trying to sound like a know it all, but theres is more than one way to skin a cat. In all the other threads I hintes that they have had a wish list all along of people that share there vision. If another team blocks it oh well move on to the next person that shares the vision, philosophy, and loyalty that these folks do. It isnt all doom and gloom. Yea some organizations are likely to block a move. Not all. These organizations know that in order to keep high quality people thye have to allow them the opportunity for advancement, if that means in title, pay, or what have you regardless of if it is a lateral move or not. Im not worried. This group from the get go likely had a plan. Mcdermott doesnt seem like a loud mouth blowhard that rests on his past accomplishments as Rex did. To the contrary Mcdermott seems like the kind of guy hat had a plan, work ethic for days, and the determination to do everything in his power to put this team in a position to succeed. Beane shares that same vibe. It might be these guys first rodeo per se, but they are quickly putting together something very promising and there is literally zero need to worry. Good post. I feel this has been in the works for a rather long time. More than days. just dialing in the details and then answering the call from Pegula. feels sharp and focused right now. Cool vibe not entirely accurate not far off either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Good post. I feel this has been in the works for a rather long time. More than days. just dialing in the details and then answering the call from Pegula. feels sharp and focused right now. Cool vibe It does feel like they had a plan, and it's all happening with a bunch of smart young guys on the same page. The beginning of something new. And hopefully wildly successful in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 LOL two words...Luke Falk how about no!!! He is a product of Mike Leach... stay away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Front office looking solid. Most I importantly is cohesion within the group. I'm thinking everyone is on board with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 so we still need Overdorf because????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Not gonna lie, I didnt care much for the schoen hire, but this is a really good one for us. I bet the main reason he is coming here is because pegulas threw a bunch of money at him You don't know anything about Schoen.. Assuming you do is foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 It does feel like they had a plan, and it's all happening with a bunch of smart young guys on the same page. The beginning of something new. And hopefully wildly successful in time. Really? A plan? A very weird plan to to wait a couple of years to fire your entire coaching staff, the GM, and all of the scouts. Very very strange plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) so we still need Overdorf because?????Well, obviously, he remains to give people something to complain about in the Gaines thread! Let it all play out. there are a lot of moving parts right now. Really? A plan? A very weird plan to to wait a couple of years to fire your entire coaching staff, the GM, and all of the scouts. Very very strange plan. I hope youre either drunk or just kidding. Sarcasm font? Yes, they whiffed on Rex. I did HATE that hire, but because he was a Bill tried to get behind it. My gut was right. That was years ago, and you want to go back to THAT, and NOW? Do you have a problem with any new FO hires? I'm saying the non-Rex new FO has a plan, and the owners are letting the put it in place. Some people.... EDIT: I'm guessing you took "they" to be the Pegulas(?), but I meant the new FO. Either way, the owners hired new people to put this in place. Edited May 16, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 OK late to the thread, but this seems like a great hire. Is this a promotion for the guy? Seems like he was fairly high up in Houston too but I haven't seen exactly what his job was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) OK late to the thread, but this seems like a great hire. Is this a promotion for the guy? Seems like he was fairly high up in Houston too but I haven't seen exactly what his job was. Beane said he was glad to get him, as it was basically a lateral hire. Apparently he has roots in the area, but he MUST feel good about the FO being built, or you stay put with a division champ. He was reportedly a good option for GM. Edited May 16, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 We can keep an eye out for any cuts from Houston, Carolina and Miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 how about no!!! He is a product of Mike Leach... stay away!!! Dare not blaspheme the name of Mike Leach around here or The Senator may have your soul. "Let's go Bills!!! 19-0 baby!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 We can keep an eye out for any cuts from Houston, Carolina and Miami Or any fat unemployed brothers who recently got fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Dare not blaspheme the name of Mike Leach around here or The Senator may have your soul. "Let's go Bills!!! 19-0 baby!!!" What QB has he developed into a starting caliber QB??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 http://m.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-director-player-personnel-Brian-Gaine-Bills-11147617.php So in essence they could have blocked it, but it also states it's a promotion, therefore, how culd they have blocked it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I'm not trying to make it overly difficult. At the same time I understand the process as well as anyone here (without sounding like an A-hole). I spent 8 years in a front office and have the 1st hand knowledge of how it works. It isn't as easy as just call some people and fill out the group. They are off to a GREAT start. If it continues this way we should all be thrilled. They still need to add A LOT more people that share in their philosophy. It will not be an easy task. That doesn't mean that it can't be done. My whole point this entire time is that you need to cross all of you "t's" and dot your "i's." There isn't room for mistakes. It's a difficult enough business as it is. They are really flourishing at the moment but there is a lot of work still to do. Honest question. Do scouts really work under contract? Or are they simply employees? Would seem to me that a lower level scout or area/regional scout could up and quit and move to a different team whenever he/she wanted. Granted, they probably wouldn't do that without getting something extra for it, like higher pay or better assignment, but could a team really "block" that person from making their own decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Anyone have ideas what his role was in the disastrous Brock Osweiler deal? He would be our VP of Pro player personnel... http://texanswire.usatoday.com/2017/04/06/john-mcclain-both-bill-obrien-and-rick-smith-wanted-brock-osweiler/ It looks like the GM and HC wanted him. It says nothing about Gaine in this article at least but will we ever know? I was interested to see who wanted him also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Any real evidence to support that Gaines was a good hire? Or is everyone just saying it was a good hire because he came from from a good organization? Edited May 16, 2017 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Any real evidence to support that Gaines was a good hire? Or is everyone just saying it was a good hire because he came from from a good organization? It depends on your opinion really do you think the Texans have a solid roster? He was instrumental in getting the pieces needed, including Osweiler even though it doesn't mention him as being a main factor in pursuing Osweiler, I can't fault him for trying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) People that wanted changes in the front office must be doing the Bruce Willis jig by now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9paLA6ayLPU Edited May 16, 2017 by Peace Frog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Wow Texans fans seem pretty pissed about loosing him. This is looking like a good hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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