KellyToughII Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 They better re-sign him. If we lose him, we would need a running back in the draft, and I don't see us getting a RB of his caliber in the fifth. jmo I am sure when he came out in the 5th, no one thought he would be that good either so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I am sure when he came out in the 5th, no one thought he would be that good either so.... J. Williams also came in the 5th and he had fumbilitis last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseTooth Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Almost 2,000 replies for Gillislee! Gotta love Bills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) They better re-sign him. If we lose him, we would need a running back in the draft, and I don't see us getting a RB of his caliber in the fifth. jmo there are several free agent rbs available. Â http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/running-back/ Adrian Peterson RB 32 MIN TBD - Jamaal Charles RB 30 KC TBD - James Starks RB 31 GB TBD - Rashad Jennings RB 32 NYG TBD - DeAngelo Williams RB 33 PIT TBD - Chris Johnson RB 31 ARI TBD - Reggie Bush RB 32 BUF TBD - LeGarrette Blount RB 30 NE TBD Market Value Johnathan Grimes RB 27 HOU TBD - Justin Forsett RB 31 DEN TBD - Chase Reynolds RB 29 LA TBD - Matt Asiata RB 29 MIN TBD - Bobby Rainey RB 29 NYG TBD - Dexter McCluster RB 28 LAC TBD - Jordan Todman RB 27 IND TBD - Antone Smith RB 31 TB TBD - Ronnie Hillman RB 25 LAC TBD - Joique Bell RB 30 DET TBD - Tre Mason RB 23 LA TBD - Khiry Robinson RB 27 NYJ TBD - Dri Archer RB 25 BUF TBD - Antonio Andrews RB 24 TEN TBD - Denard Robinson RB 26 JAC TBD - Stepfan Taylor RB 25 ARI TBD - Latavius Murray RB 26 OAK TBD Market Value Rajion Neal RB 25 CLE TBD - Glenn Winston RB 27 CLE TBD - John Crockett RB 25 GB TBD - Karlos Williams RB 23 PIT TBD - Tyler Gaffney RB 26 NE TBD Edited April 24, 2017 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 McCoy - $8,875,000DiMarco - $1,850,000 Tolbert - $695,000Williams - $600,228 Â They're not going to pay another $4 million this year to a backup RB, no matter how productive he was last season. Take the draft pick, pick someone else to compete with Williams at a cost less than 25% of what MG would be due, and move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Take the pick and let him walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Good post. I see your point. Â A question, though: why do people only bring 2nd and 5th round tenders? Is that the rule? Can't you offer, say, a 3rd or 4th round tender? It's the round you were draft in or a 1st or 2nd rd tender I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Well, we hit 100. Â Any actual info on whether we are matching or taking the pick? We only have an hour and a half left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's the round you were draft in or a 1st or 2nd rd tender I believe. Correct  1st round Tender 2nd round Tender Original Tender (3rd round - UDFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Correct  1st round Tender 2nd round Tender Original Tender (3rd round - UDFA) Nice info, thanks. I didn't know that if you were were UDFA then you could have a 3rd rd tender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I wish I could get out of the mindframe of not caring abut this because playoffs are not happening with Patriots around. Â 2 additional spots to shoot for man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Nice info, thanks. I didn't know that if you were were UDFA then you could have a 3rd rd tender you cant, its 1, 2, or whatever round after that you correspond to from draft day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Does losing him help with a comp pick at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 you cant, its 1, 2, or whatever round after that you correspond to from draft day Oh ok, guess I misread it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Does losing him help with a comp pick at all? If the Patriots sign Gillislee and the Bills didn't match, New England would surrender a fifth-round pick to Buffalo. Edited April 24, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 If Bills do not match they will get a 5th round pick, because that is where Mike was originally drafted. Â We didn't get anything for Hogan because he was given the Original Tender (and being a UDFA there is no compensation with that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 If the Patriots sign Gillislee and the Bills didn't match, New England would surrender a fifth-round pick to Buffalo. Â But not a comp pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I don't know why everyone is so mad. Isn't this the equivalent of getting a Comp Pick basically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Â But not a comp pick? I think it has to be their Original Pick in that round. and if they don't have a 5th, then it would be a 4th from what I understand. Â I don't think they can use compensatory picks for RFA tenders 15 Min left to match.... Let him walk. Edited April 24, 2017 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I think it has to be their Original Pick in that round. and if they don't have a 5th, then it would be a 4th from what I understand. Â I don't think they can use compensatory picks for RFA tenders 15 Min left to match.... Let him walk. Correct. Can't be a comp pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) I think it has to be their Original Pick in that round.The Bills will get Denver's original pick at 163 (19th pick in the 5th) because they traded it to Pats. Â Pats also have a comp pick that is the 2nd to last pick in the 5th. The Pats traded their original 5th rd pick (175) to Cleveland for Kiki Mingo. Edited April 24, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I think it has to be their Original Pick in that round. and if they don't have a 5th, then it would be a 4th from what I understand. Â I don't think they can use compensatory picks for RFA tenders 15 Min left to match.... Let him walk. Â Just making a bad joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins_deep Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 J will is more talented. Tolbert is more powerful short yardage. We are drafting a rb prbly better than mg rd 5. Â Wtf is the issue. Â Its qb folks. Everything else is noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017  Just making a bad joke i got it  @spotrac Matching Mike Gillislee's 2 yr/$6.4M offer would leave the #Bills spending $10.25M cash on their projected RB1/RB2 in 2017 - 2nd highest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 J will is more talented. Tolbert is more powerful short yardage. We are drafting a rb prbly better than mg rd 5.  Wtf is the issue.  Its qb folks. Everything else is noise  J Will is terrible. Which games have you been watching?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 So what kind of pick do we get if NE signs Gillisleee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â J Will is terrible. Which games have you been watching?! I saw a Rookie on limited Snaps. Â how was Mike early in his career again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 J will is more talented. Tolbert is more powerful short yardage. We are drafting a rb prbly better than mg rd 5. Â Wtf is the issue. Â Its qb folks. Everything else is noise while it is qb -- i dont know that any of your 3 statements in the first line are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 i got it  @spotrac Matching Mike Gillislee's 2 yr/$6.4M offer would leave the #Bills spending $10.25M cash on their projected RB1/RB2 in 2017 - 2nd highest. That's been our primary offensive attack. Not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 If the Patriots sign Gillislee and the Bills didn't match, New England would surrender a fifth-round pick to Buffalo. I know they will get a 5th because he is restricted, but if they loss more then free agents then sign, doesn't the league award comp picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I saw a Rookie on limited Snaps. Â how was Mike early in his career again? im not even saying matching is a slam dunk choice (though think the second round tender was probably) -- but declaring JWIll better seems... optimisitic? hopeful? I know they will get a 5th because he is restricted, but if they loss more then free agents then sign, doesn't the league award comp picks? he will not be in that equation because we will have been compensated for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 So what kind of pick do we get if NE signs Gillisleee? Â Anywhere between a 3rd & UDFA, as per above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 im not even saying matching is a slam dunk choice (though think the second round tender was probably) -- but declaring JWIll better seems... optimisitic? hopeful? Based on Pre Draft yes he is a better prospect. Â I won't Frag J Will based on a rookie year with limited snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I know they will get a 5th because he is restricted, but if they loss more then free agents then sign, doesn't the league award comp picks?only UFAs count in comp pick formula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Based on Pre Draft yes he is a better prospect. Â I won't Frag J Will based on a rookie year with limited snaps. im not arguing the dudes a bum, just that its optimistic to declare him a better player at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 only UFAs count in comp pick formula  Since Gillisslee was undrafted, then that settles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Â Since Gillisslee was undrafted, then that settles it. exactly. The Sabres will get a comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 exactly. The Sabres will get a comp pick. you cant get comp picks for two teams in the same city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 you cant get comp picks for two teams in the same city.little known loophole that you can if one team currently has no HC or GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 only UFAs count in comp pick formula Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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