OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) .....so Bob Vila, how do you propose to cut him and absorb the $7.5 million cap hit?.....better put that saw away.......convert 6 mil to a signing bonus with $750k salaries for 2017 and 2018....so you'd be paying him $3.75 mil in 2017, and in Groy at $2.5 mil and you have $6.25 mil tied up in C spot for TWO players.....you could cut Eric in 2018 and absorb the cap hit of $3.75 mil much easier or keep him around as a backup with Groy as your $2.5 mil starter, IF my math is correct.......... Edited March 14, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 .....so Bob Vila, how do you propose to cut him and absorb the $7.5 million cap hit?.....better put that saw away.......convert 6 mil to a signing bonus with $750k salaries for 2017 and 2018....so you'd be paying him $3.75 mil in 2017, and in Groy at $2.5 mil and you have $6.25 mil tied up in C spot for TWO players.....you could cut Eric in 2018 and absorb the cap hit of $3.75 mil much easier or keep him around as a backup with Groy as your $2.5 mil starter, IF my math is correct.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 ..garbage press board I take it?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 ..garbage press board I take it?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So they give Jordan "The Turnstile" Mills a 2 year $4 mil deal but would not even offer Groy $800k???? I do not get it at all Groy played well and is so versatile. Solid add for Anthony Lynn, I wish him nothing but the best! Do we have a right OT (forget even a good one) on the roster? Not much choice there with Mills No....we do in fact still have Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ah man. Not happy about that too much. Really wanted to keep him around. Ah well, it happens. Thought he showed some good things coming in when Wood went down. Sucks, that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ah man. Not happy about that too much. Really wanted to keep him around. Ah well, it happens. Thought he showed some good things coming in when Wood went down. Sucks, that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes I guess. Wtf they didn't lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wtf they didn't lose him. Not yet Its not cost prohibitive to keep him....I think whether they match the sheet will say a lot on how good they think he can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I think offer is based on market for OL going crazy and agree with this part of ESPN article. 1. The offensive line market went nuts http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18892279/behind-numbers-really-got-best-2017-nfl-free-agent-deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Update: https://h3-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/15ada1ac-fda1-11e4-984f-12771640ddce.gif?v=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninMyrtleBeach Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Cut Wood, save money. Wood has two bad wheels. Groy could be a long term player. Don't get me wrong, love Wood but after all it is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGBillsFan Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 If the coaches think Groy is the future, then you match the offer, if not then let him walk....we will know in 5 days or less what they think of Groy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 @mikerodak: The Rams have agreed to extend Bills restricted FA center Ryan Groy a two-year offer sheet, per @caplannfl & me. Bills have 5 days to match @mikerodak: Ryan Groy would reunite with Aaron Kromer with Rams and likely start at center. Expect $$ from Rams offer to match that situation. Sounds like they'll have to choose between him or Eric Wood. And i'm sure they'll keep Wood. But it's definitely worth a discussion. It's probably too steep to keep them both if the Rams offer is starting Center money. Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Whaley Roid Rage, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Cut Wood, save money. Wood has two bad wheels. Groy could be a long term player. Don't get me wrong, love Wood but after all it is a business. Wtf are the Bills saving money for? For finding a Center when Groy goes down after you let go of Wood? Edited March 15, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Sign groy and let eric woods go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 @SalSports Thinking about the Groy situation. Everyone mentions Wood entering final year of deal, but Richie's cap hit goes from 4.9M to 7.5M next year So, there are multiple reasons to think hard about matching it. Bills should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 This could impact whether they match Groy. This guy started at center for Castillo in Baltimore @profootballtalk Report: Ravens releasing Jeremy Zuttah http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/report-ravens-releasing-jeremy-zuttah/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 This could impact whether they match Groy. This guy started at center for Castillo in Baltimore @profootballtalk Report: Ravens releasing Jeremy Zuttah http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/report-ravens-releasing-jeremy-zuttah/ Zuttah can also play the guard spots, but is 30 y/o as well. He was making slightly over $4.1 million a year, Baltimore cut him to save $2.4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Zuttah can also play the guard spots, but is 30 y/o as well. He was making slightly over $4.1 million a year, Baltimore cut him to save $2.4 million.is he better than Wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Where's the blue text? We're matching, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 it does matter that he was a udfa. It plays into his total value. He wasn't good enough to be drafted. He's only started 6 games and it was due to injury. He's not a proven starter. He's a backup who wasn't good enough to be drafted, until proven otherwise. Slap a 2nd round tender on him and that all changes. And he's a FA again next year and we are stuck negotiating at a level that doesn't match his value. Makes no sense. What you're describing only comes into play with a guy like Malcom Butler, a udfa who elevated to a full time starter for 2 years at a very high level. Pats are using a 1st round tender because that's his value now. They know his negotiations won't be anything less. Not the same situation here. Exactly - nice to see some logic. People want to just blast Whaley for these decisions, but once again in this case - much like TT - He played it right. The Bills have a choice of matching the offer at a lower cost than the 2nd round tender and get him locked up for 2 years or if they decide he does not fit their new scheme - they have a chance to move on. Placing a 2nd round tender meant overpaying him for 1 year and then still having to negotiate a longer term deal if you want to keep him. Same thing with Gillislee - there are so many RBs on the market and in the draft that placing a higher tender was probably a waste of money. Give Doug some credit - he seems to have a clue what he is doing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Roid Rage, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 One day to go what is everybody feeling the front office is going to do on Groy? You would think if they were going to match they would have done it by now? Perhaps Whaley is trying to squeeze a draft choice out of the Rams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 And done. Bills match the offer. No brainier and thank you LA Rams for negotiating for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 One day to go what is everybody feeling the front office is going to do on Groy? You would think if they were going to match they would have done it by now? Perhaps Whaley is trying to squeeze a draft choice out of the Rams ? Adam CaplanVerified account @caplannfl Follow More #Bills are matching RFA offer from Rams for OL Ryan Groy, source told ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 @adamcaplanNFL #Bills had until Monday to make their decision on Groy. He's now under contract for 2 more seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Wow - nice job holding on to him Whales! I'm really surprised they offered him so little to be their starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Fire Whaley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Do we lose another comp pick now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Only the Bills could uncover a gem then lose him in less then 6 months this should be a replacement for Erick Woods but noooooooooo. Whaley has his head up his ass you were saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Whaley doesn't learn Looks like the dirtbags on this site never learn. Whaley is smarter then you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Do we lose another comp pick now? We already lost them all. We're losing regular picks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Patrick Lewis gets cut now right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Patrick Lewis gets cut now right ? Nah--keep 9 OLmen 5 starters, 2 game day backups, 2 inactives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Patrick Lewis gets cut now right ? We don't get any comp picks for him so there is no point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Comp pick jokes right up there with boy are my arms tired status now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 you were saying... Musta been Overdorf's doing We don't get any comp picks for him so there is no point. Bellicheeck just scored another potential comp pick actually And done. Bills match the offer. No brainier and thank you LA Rams for negotiating for the Bills. I think this was well played and quite pleased with the result. Not a splash, just good fundamentals from the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Where's the blue text? We're matching, right? ....LOL....where is BBMB's "Butch From The Eastside" with his skittles posts?......somebody stole his crayolas I guess............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Comp pick jokes right up there with boy are my arms tired status now. You just fly in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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