Santana Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 3 million is a good reason to not want to be on a losing franchise. Sign me up. Yeah absolutely, I'm not hating on him for going to NE. I just simply don't care either way. We weren't going to the playoffs because we do or don't have Stephon Gilmore. I just think that when you're a fan of a losing franchise like we are then we get so caught up with certain players. Honestly I thought it was a bigger deal when Antoine Winfield and Nate Clements left. They were a lot better CB's IMO. Gilmore is good we'll miss him but he had an opportunity to stay in Buffalo he wasn't forced out. Good luck to him, he'll be missed but we can't afford to pay a CB $14mil a year right now. That's just what it is. Edited March 9, 2017 by Big Homie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Wasnt expecting this at all. I figured if BB went after anyone it would be Gillislee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I didn't think Gilmore was the top five corner he wanted me be paid like, but the Pats just got a very solid CB. This sucks to hear. what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Keep my name out of your mouth unless you're going to address me directly. It's ironic, on the very day that the very coach whose team witnessed that play from the opposing sideline breaks the bank for Gilmore, that you would choose to die on this hill. What's been obvious to some of us all along--that Gilmore is an elite player who just about any coach would love to have--has been confirmed: the best coach in the NFL, who faced the player 2x per year for half a decade, decided that he deserves to be one of the two highest-paid corners in the NFL. Why? Because he watched 5 years of tape and didn't decide to pigeon-hole the guy's entire career based on a single play. Unlike you. You're dismissed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hes a good CB. But many people around the league feel hes not great. Hes about to be paid top 2-3 CB $ by a team with the geeatest QB in the history of the NFL and the greatest HC in the history of the NFL. That team can afford to carry a roster that would probably go 4-12 without said HC and QB and thus they can afford to make a big splash and overpay a good CB by paying him as if he was patrick peterson. Hes not patrick peterson. We're better for it. Move on. I wanted to move on from Gilmore because I wanted to rebuild. If you are trying to make the playoffs losing Gilmore is not the correct move. Bills have no clue what they are doing. You have to tag him if you are going for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo922 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 whats changed? The Patriots are still heads and shoulders above the rest of the shitboxes in AFC East. The margin only got larger. Laughing at people justifying Bills Front Office with 2 FB's and a K as their first needs. It's a passing league. QB/WR/blocking. CB/Pass Rush are the keys to the league. Bills will always be the best at LB's and FB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I wanted to move on from Gilmore because I wanted to rebuild. If you are trying to make the playoffs losing Gilmore is not the correct move. Bills have no clue what they are doing. You have to tag him if you are going for it. Not with so many good corners coming out in the draft and the switch to a zone coverage scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Keep my name out of your mouth unless you're going to address me directly. It's ironic, on the very day that the very coach whose team witnessed that play from the opposing sideline breaks the bank for Gilmore, that you would choose to die on this hill. What's been obvious to some of us all along--that Gilmore is an elite player who just about any coach would love to have--has been confirmed: the best coach in the NFL, who faced the player 2x per year for half a decade, decided that he deserves to be one of the two highest-paid corners in the NFL. Why? Because he watched 5 years of tape and didn't decide to pigeon-hole the guy's entire career based on a single play. Unlike you. You're dismissed now. 😂🤣😅 You're funny! Keep the comedy going! The guy can't tackle and gets burned, but you keep going on like he's the best CB in the league. You sir are delusional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 We pay 27 mil to a crap qb and 0.00 to an elite corner L o l. sigh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Pats are looking to trade Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks. Gilmore will be spearheading Belichicks secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I wanted to move on from Gilmore because I wanted to rebuild. If you are trying to make the playoffs losing Gilmore is not the correct move. Bills have no clue what they are doing. You have to tag him if you are going for it. We were trying to make the playoffs last year and Gilmore's defense averaged giving up 33 points a game in 5 games vs the Jets, Dolphins, and Pats. 33 points per game against. Let that sink in, and then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 On the other hand, Pats have been paying top dollar for every Bills cast-off. It's kinda nice taking cap space from a rival for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 While I hate losing Gilmore, and even MORE hate losing him to the Pats - I can't fault Whaley here. I think he's a great CB, but too much $$$ to keep him. Well, top rated CB's usually hit the jackpot in free agency. This has been going on for two decades and the Bills continually pick these guys in the first round....only to see them walk. To me, that is a waste. If your philosophy is to not pay a top corner top money, stop using first round draft picks on them. If the Bills select another corner in the first this year, how will you feel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Butler for Cooks happening. Damn. Somebody called that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Wouldn't be shocked if they deal Butler. @diannaESPN The New England Patriots are considering trading Malcolm Butler to the New Orleans Saints for Brandin Cooks per sources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Not with so many good corners coming out in the draft and the switch to a zone coverage scheme. Yup! exactly. smart thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Not with so many good corners coming out in the draft and the switch to a zone coverage scheme. That is fine if you're rebuilding. If you are going for it you can't assume similar production. #1 corners don't fall out of the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Told you Butler gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 If they get Gilmore and lose Butler it's a push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusher Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just remember...many fans blamed the defense for last season. We currently have no secondary and maybe two linebackers. This team is in big trouble next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 @spotrac Trading Malcolm Butler leaves no dead cap to the #Patriots. He would bring a $3.91M tender & a $13M+ market value to the #Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 pass happy league, and the Bills ignore WR, CB, and S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 We were trying to make the playoffs last year and Gilmore's defense averaged giving up 33 points a game in 5 games vs the Jets, Dolphins, and Pats. 33 points per game against. Let that sink in, and then move on. It's all Gilmore's fault? OK, watch him in New England. Bills had crap safeties and linebackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Not with so many good corners coming out in the draft and the switch to a zone coverage scheme. and other holes to fill on the roster and other upgrades to make on the roster. This is one more reason why we are stuck in mediocrity; we let our better players walk and have to replace them with picks instead of improving positions and drafting players to push them. I know that changing coaches and changing schemes really drive this, but between him and TT - Gilmore should win hands down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Pats are looking to trade Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks. Gilmore will be spearheading Belichicks secondary. Gilmore is a poor tackler - will not go over well in NE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 If they get Gilmore and lose Butler it's a push Agreed. But honestly why are we even giving so much attention to the pats? Nothing is changing. Theeyre going 13-3 regardless of what they do. Its BB and Brady everything else is just noise. Let them get every single player i say. Makes the rest of the league easier to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 pass happy league, and the Bills ignore WR, CB, and S They aren't ignoring either of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 @diannaESPN The New England Patriots are considering trading Malcolm Butler to the New Orleans Saints for Brandin Cooks per sources So before everyone freaks out, it looks like Gilmore could end up being a more expensive lateral move from what they are already had. As usual it's the offense we need to be afraid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Patriots owe us. 2 easy wins a year and a farm team they can get players ready for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Gilmore is a poor tackler - will not go over well in NE....I distinctly remember Kyle Williams missing on BOTH gut punch big Ajayi runs that more or less lost us both of those games. We didn't like to talk about that at the BBMB and probably won't here either. He also ate dirt trying to take Jeremy Hill against the Bengals. We forgot because we win that game. Edited March 9, 2017 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's all Gilmore's fault? OK, watch him in New England. Bills had crap safeties and linebackers. Its not al Gilmore's fault. But Gilmore has been in Buffalo how long? That defense has had several stinkers with him on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 @ESPN_NFLNation Stephon Gilmore addition has effect on Logan Ryan, possibly Malcolm Butler http://es.pn/2mKAPVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Terrible news for the rest of the AFC east. The more things change ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Not with so many good corners coming out in the draft and the switch to a zone coverage scheme. I would love to know how people are going to use our 3 picks in the top 155 to get a QB to groom, a WR- 2, a day 1 starting corner, 2 safeties to replace Williams & Graham long term, a linebacker that fits McD's scheme and a RT. The answer in every single FA thread is "the draft is loaded at that position", but we've proven ourselves to be one of the worst franchises at building draft pick capital and we simply don't have enough to it to fill every hole. Losing Gilmore opened up another one. We used cap space that easily could have retained him to fill luxury positions that are usually filled by undrafted players. How people are rationalizing this over his inability to tackle (its a corner, who cares) or willingness to pay him $12 mil but not $14 is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Its not al Gilmore's fault. But Gilmore has been in Buffalo how long? That defense has had several stinkers with him on it. It's hardly any of Gilmore's fault, actually. He has played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Terrible news for the rest of the AFC east. The more things change ... Again, the pats were going 13-3 with or without Gilmore. Who cares. At least Gilmore didnt go to the dolphins. Im not phased at all by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 @diannaESPN The New England Patriots are considering trading Malcolm Butler to the New Orleans Saints for Brandin Cooks per sources Welp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I would love to know how people are going to use our 3 picks in the top 155 to get a QB to groom, a WR- 2, a day 1 starting corner, 2 safeties to replace Williams & Graham long term, a linebacker that fits McD's scheme and a RT. The answer in every single FA thread is "the draft is loaded at that position", but we've proven ourselves to be one of the worst franchises at building draft pick capital and we simply don't have enough to it to fill every hole. Losing Gilmore opened up another one. We used cap space that easily could have retained him to fill luxury positions that are usually filled by undrafted players. How people are rationalizing this over his inability to tackle (its a corner, who cares) or willingness to pay him $12 mil but not $14 is amazing. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's hardly any of Gilmore's fault, actually. He has played well. He really has... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Again, the pats were going 13-3 with or without Gilmore. Who cares. At least Gilmore didnt go to the dolphins. Im not phased at all by it. This is a good point. Strange move for them. Their big money defensive FA signings aren't historically good moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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