truth on hold Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) One that stood out as far as under rated is Butch Byrd. Not familiar with him, but this guy had some serious stats. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214805/article/buffalo-bills-alltime-underrated-overrated-players Per wikipedia still leads the team in picks, pick return yards, and pick 6's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Byrd Edited February 13, 2016 by truth on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Funny how Smerlas was the topic of another thread the last two days and he comes up here as most underrated Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Mine are maybe more from a league perspective. Bledsoe over Norwood under Guess I should have read the article first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Can't agree with Beebe. He didn't have the stats of the other receivers of his era because he was a complimentary piece. He played his role well and contributed when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Beebe was really not that great of a receiver. Fast but never very reliable. He had a couple of big moments, like the author states. Lofton contributed more but often is overlooked by many. Lofton was the perfect compliment to Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Looking over the last 20 years mine are: Overrated - Jairus Tyrd (Honorable mention: Kiko Alonzo) Underrated - Antowain Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 One that stood out as far as under rated is Butch Byrd. Not familiar with him, but this guy had some serious stats. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214805/article/buffalo-bills-alltime-underrated-overrated-players Per wikipedia still leads the team in picks, pick return yards, and pick 6's. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Byrd Butch was a star in his time. Underrated now because he's been largely forgotten, but not underrated in the 60s. I was just a kid back then,learning to play football on the neighborhood streets. My little friends and I would say we were Butch Byrd after picking off a pass. Can't agree with Beebe. He didn't have the stats of the other receivers of his era because he was a complimentary piece. He played his role well and contributed when called upon. I do agree with Beebe a little. Wasn't a great route runner. Dropped too many balls. Wouldn't be remembered hardly at all if he hadn't played on great teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Byrd was far from underrated. He received significant props league-wide and in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Byrd was far from underrated. He received significant props league-wide and in the press. Agree with this because my dad who was a fan as far back as the 60s loved to talk about him. He was quick to point out he was an All Pro during the championship 60 s years. I disagree with Joe Ferguson being overrated, and I think the article is littered with several inaccuracies, not the best written. BTW, Ferguson played that game against the Chargers with such a badly injured ankle he could barely stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 underrated: Sam Cowart overrated: London Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Overrated: Jeff Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated: Charles Romes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Romes "...playing in every game for the Bills from his rookie season to 1986, starting every game from 1978 forward. Romes logged at least one interception in every year from 1978 to 1986; his 28 career interceptions are fourth in team history..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated: Winfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 How does Joe Ferguson even qualify to be overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Overrated by Bills management: Chris Kelsay. Underrated: Darryl Talley. He was the heart and soul of that Bills defense and was only in 2 Pro Bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated: Phil Hansen Overrated: Nate Clements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 How does Joe Ferguson even qualify to be overrated? I remember one year one list had him top 10 underrated, another top 10 overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated- Big Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated- Big Ted Great call here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated- Big Ted +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seannc Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 underrated: Sam Cowart I agree with you on Sam Cowart. He was fantastic. That 2000 season went down the tubes when he was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Underrated- Big Ted Big Ted was great, but I'm not sure who underrated him. Not college scouts, he was a first round draft pick. Not opposing defensive coordinators. Not his peers, who voted him to 3 pro bowls as a Bill. Not the fans. I guess Bills management, who asked him to take pay cuts 2 years in a row. I'm glad he won a super bowl, he was a class act who did a lot for the community. Overrated - Ruben Brown Underrated - John Fina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Big Ted was great, but I'm not sure who underrated him. Not college scouts, he was a first round draft pick. Not opposing defensive coordinators. Not his peers, who voted him to 3 pro bowls as a Bill. Not the fans. I guess Bills management, who asked him to take pay cuts 2 years in a row. I'm glad he won a super bowl, he was a class act who did a lot for the community. Overrated - Ruben Brown Underrated - John Fina He was great and I would think there would be more discussion about him as such. That's why I think he's underrated Edited February 14, 2016 by SWATeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Don Beebe does not belong on overrated list. He doesn't belong on any list, really. Criticizing him for never reaching 700 yards in a season as what was normally the #3 WR is a bit overzealous and reaching. Adam Linger belongs on the underrated list. The guy was solid. In key times, Super Bowls - he was flawless. If Norwood gets credit anywhere than Linger deserves some, too. Fred Smerlas was before my time, but by all accounts I have ever read there is no reason to not consider him as one of the best Bills of all time. Keith McKellar before Kenneth Davis, IMO, for underrated. Recent history overrated Marshawn Lynch as a Buffalo Bill was nothing extraordinary. In Seattle, he was better.Underrated Travis Henry if not for a long list of great RB's, he could have been the best two or 3 this team has ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBuffaloKid Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Over rated - Spiller. The guy couldn't keep my grandmother from getting to the QB Under rated - Jerry Butler. He was a very good receiver for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I'd put Shane Conlon as underrated, rather than overrated. He seems to be forgotten. Damn, could he hit hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 How does Joe Ferguson even qualify to be overrated?Well he is on the wall of fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Over: Talley Under: Schobel, Cribbs Underrated by management: Winfield, Pat Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 over- drew bledsoe under- joe cribbs, ted washington, carwell gardner, sam cowart, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I agree with you on Sam Cowart. He was fantastic. That 2000 season went down the tubes when he was injured.For a couple of seasons, Cowart was the best ILB in the league. Is his son playing college ball now? I remember seeing someone with his name playing for an SEC team this fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Over-rated: Derrick Dockery (based on the unwarranted expectations and crazy FA contract Levy gave him) Under-rated: Phil Hansen (a great, dependable player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 underrated: Sam Cowart overrated: London Fletcher Good call on Sam Cowart. He was tremendous before he got hurt. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I will add WR Jerry Butler as underrated. I think he might have become the best WR in team history had he not gotten injured. Back in those days, guys didn't often come back from injuries the way that they can today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 In the grand scheme, Kenneth Davis was extremely valuable in his "flight" under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyudi Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Underrated: John Holecek Overrated: Biscuit (I'm sure I'll get some heat on this one, He was good but outside of his first couple years he never lived up to the hype and seemed invisible in all the Super Bowls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Overrated: Doug Flutie. I mean, really...is there any doubt? Underrated: Lee Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Overrated by Bills management: Chris Kelsay. Underrated: Darryl Talley. He was the heart and soul of that Bills defense and was only in 2 Pro Bowls He was great and I would think there would be more discussion about him as such. That's why I think he's underrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Big Ted was great, but I'm not sure who underrated him. Not college scouts, he was a first round draft pick. Not opposing defensive coordinators. Not his peers, who voted him to 3 pro bowls as a Bill. Not the fans. I guess Bills management, who asked him to take pay cuts 2 years in a row. I'm glad he won a super bowl, he was a class act who did a lot for the community. Overrated - Ruben Brown Underrated - John Fina Steve O is a fan who appreciates the trenches! Fina is probably underrated. A good/great player largely forgotten now. Ruben Brown has a resume like a Hall of Famer - 9 Pro Bowl selections, 4 time All Pro. He was good, just not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Under rated:Jim Dunaway. Some legal problems of his own. Killed his wife. George Saimes Not actual part of the discussions but Tom Sestak is one of the best of the best. Young people use google. Edited February 15, 2016 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 underrated: Sam Cowart overrated: London Fletcher AGREED! Sam was a beast but never get's mentioned as a great Bill... London had some success elsewhere and that is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Under rated:Jim Dunaway. Some legal problems of his own. Killed his wife. George Saimes Not actual part of the discussions but Tom Sestak is one of the best of the best. Young people use google. George Saimes was far from underrated We had some guys with very short stays who you'll never hear about because they had career ending injuries early on. One who comes to mind was Ben Gregory, a bruising rookie fullback who looked like a future Pro Bowler until he totally tore up his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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