YoloinOhio Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/11/26/carrington-looks-like-next-man-up-on-bills-defensive-line/ What do you all think the difference in production (and scheme, if any) will be with Mario most likely out Sunday and Carrington in his place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Alex will put some Chiefs in the hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Less jewelry and weird ass contact lenses Edited November 27, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 He has a knack for batting down passes, might alter some throwing lanes which could result in a tip ball interception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Probably same as the last two games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahbonas Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 With only 3.8 million dead money hit on 2016 cap if Whaley released Mario....Mario with his bad tummy and now 2 games with foot injury and 19 million....could find himself cut in the offseason providing whaley with the flexibility we may need. And worse than the injuries...its seeing Mario handled too often by 1 on 1 blocks when he is healthy and going at the QB. Kyle Williams with a 7 million cap hit could be a possible casualty as well due to his injury/age ... Rex's former Def End Muhammed Wilkerson will be a free agent this year with Jets - we may decide to make that pseudo swap of Wilkerson for the 2 high priced Williams boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 With only 3.8 million dead money hit on 2016 cap if Whaley released Mario....Mario with his bad tummy and now 2 games with foot injury and 19 million....could find himself cut in the offseason providing whaley with the flexibility we may need. And worse than the injuries...its seeing Mario handled too often by 1 on 1 blocks when he is healthy and going at the QB. Kyle Williams with a 7 million cap hit could be a possible casualty as well due to his injury/age ... Rex's former Def End Muhammed Wilkerson will be a free agent this year with Jets - we may decide to make that pseudo swap of Wilkerson for the 2 high priced Williams boys That would be awesome, IMO. Wilk, Dareus, and Hughes will make a nice dline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinaccia Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 With only 3.8 million dead money hit on 2016 cap if Whaley released Mario....Mario with his bad tummy and now 2 games with foot injury and 19 million....could find himself cut in the offseason providing whaley with the flexibility we may need. And worse than the injuries...its seeing Mario handled too often by 1 on 1 blocks when he is healthy and going at the QB. Kyle Williams with a 7 million cap hit could be a possible casualty as well due to his injury/age ... Rex's former Def End Muhammed Wilkerson will be a free agent this year with Jets - we may decide to make that pseudo swap of Wilkerson for the 2 high priced Williams boys If we got Wilkerson that would be excellent. He's younger and plays more consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 With only 3.8 million dead money hit on 2016 cap if Whaley released Mario....Mario with his bad tummy and now 2 games with foot injury and 19 million....could find himself cut in the offseason providing whaley with the flexibility we may need. And worse than the injuries...its seeing Mario handled too often by 1 on 1 blocks when he is healthy and going at the QB. Kyle Williams with a 7 million cap hit could be a possible casualty as well due to his injury/age ... Rex's former Def End Muhammed Wilkerson will be a free agent this year with Jets - we may decide to make that pseudo swap of Wilkerson for the 2 high priced Williams boys I'd keep Kyle Williams, but cutting Mario is becoming a realistic option. He is producing about the level you would expect out of a rookie, or even less. Carrington may be an adequate replacement. Use the extra cash to perhaps sign Stafford (depending on how TT does); another DL, or to keep Gilmore and Incognito. If we got Wilkerson that would be excellent. He's younger and plays more consistently. another benefit. McCoy and TT could cut to the outside when we play the Jets, and Wilkerson would not be there to stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Probably same as the last two games This CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Carrington is a better run defender, less of a pass rusher and fits better in a REX Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Carrington is a better run defender, less of a pass rusher and fits better in a REX Defense. A better run defender? You sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I don't think Mario is playing well at all but i would rather have him in over Carrington. I do think we need to rotate the D-Line like we did last year to keep them fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'd keep Kyle Williams, but cutting Mario is becoming a realistic option. He is producing about the level you would expect out of a rookie, or even less. Carrington may be an adequate replacement. Kyle is done. Goner. Mario has 94 sacks and 381 tackles to Carrington's 4 and 62 and he has been in and out of football the last three years. And that is a replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Carrington just goes, dude does not quit, and I cannot point to a single instance of thinking Carrington had taken a play off.. Mario has way more talent and is more gifted physically, but since he appears to be a prima donna who does not agree with the way he is being used--and plays like it. I would say Carrington is the better option at this point. Kyle is done. Goner. Mario has 94 sacks and 381 tackles to Carrington's 4 and 62 and he has been in and out of football the last three years. And that is a replacement? Kyle is not gone. No way. I expected Freddie to go, I can honestly say I don't expect Kyle to go--unless he chooses to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/11/26/carrington-looks-like-next-man-up-on-bills-defensive-line/ What do you all think the difference in production (and scheme, if any) will be with Mario most likely out Sunday and Carrington in his place? wont be any drop off Less jewelry and weird ass contact lenses I'd love to see all the players wear solid black lenses, that would be so creepy and awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Kyle is done. Goner. Mario has 94 sacks and 381 tackles to Carrington's 4 and 62 and he has been in and out of football the last three years. And that is a replacement? As Leo Durocher used to say " what has he done for me lately". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'd keep Kyle Williams, but cutting Mario is becoming a realistic option. He is producing about the level you would expect out of a rookie, or even less. Carrington may be an adequate replacement. Use the extra cash to perhaps sign Stafford (depending on how TT does); another DL, or to keep Gilmore and Incognito. another benefit. McCoy and TT could cut to the outside when we play the Jets, and Wilkerson would not be there to stop them. awesome!! BTW i was and am a fan of Carrington. Hope he makes very good use of his opportunity. Glad Bills brought him back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The thing about Carrington is he is all effort all the time He is NOT Mario WIlliams....but Mario hasnt been Mario this year either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevWarRifleman Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Alex will put some Chiefs in the hospital lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I hope they stick Carrington in the middle a couple of times & put Marcell at defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobu Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I hope they stick Carrington in the middle a couple of times & put Marcell at defensive end. Um. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 If we got Wilkerson that would be excellent. He's younger and plays more consistently. Wilkerson is a beast. You know Rex is dying to get him in Buffalo. Unfortunately there's no chance the Jets don't tag him this off-season if they don't strike a long-term deal so 2017 would be the earliest there would be a possibility of big Mo in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 A better run defender? You sure about that? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Um. No. They will absolutely do that. already have actually I hope they stick Carrington in the middle a couple of times & put Marcell at defensive end. I hope they move em around all day, hughes too. This is called The Carrington Advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Um. No. THey have already been doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Hurt foot mysteriously happened after the White touchdown play at the end of the first half... Freelancing had no place in this D game plan...Mario thought he could beat the OT, so he let his assignment run free. Even without the TD (missed tackle by Graham) this was a big play, first down minimum. That's ME football not team football. He's lucky Rex didn't call him out directly. Contrast this to Hughes running deep and doing a hell of a job on Gronk. I love a lot of things about Mario Williams -- he sets the edge like no one else in the NFL...but I think he has been pouting a lot behind the scenes this year. Edited November 27, 2015 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Given the issues with the Williams brothers, I think Manny Lawson's role becomes more important and impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/11/26/carrington-looks-like-next-man-up-on-bills-defensive-line/ What do you all think the difference in production (and scheme, if any) will be with Mario most likely out Sunday and Carrington in his place? Carrington will free lance less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Mario hasn't been quite as effective this year. Claiming that he's been invisible or that Carrington is anywhere near the same player is lunacy IMO. The biggest differences between the two are that Mario is stouter on the edge and can push the OT into the QB's lap, whereas Carrington is a bit quicker around the corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I've always liked Carrington...I thought he was on the verge of becoming a very good player for us before getting injured in his first stint here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Right now, at this exact point in time and space, Megahand > Super Mario. This too will change very quickly. Like a planet spinning off into the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For the Carrington fans...........completely blanked before going out hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 For the Carrington fans...........completely blanked before going out hurt. Neither he nor IK were impactful in this game. Too bad they missed out on Coples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Right now, at this exact point in time and space, Megahand > Super Mario. This too will change very quickly. Like a planet spinning off into the universe. This should never be a topic of discussion again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Neither he nor IK were impactful in this game. Too bad they missed out on Coples. IK is fat, slow, and unathletic. Great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 On the subject of Ike Has anyone seen him make ANY kind of play? The jet locker room incident doesnt count he was not on this team at that time He doesnt provide pass rush He cannot hold the edge down on run plays He literally is completely invisible.....at least Carrington was pushing the pocket on that side and was holding down his edge. Man.....I really hope Mario is not so hurt he cant play next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 IK is terrible. So slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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