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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

I agree with your post completely. This team struts around like peacocks thinking they've done something big and impressive and they haven't done anything of consequence really. I thought they were out coached badly in the 1st half and played with zero passion, like the Giants were just going to hand them the game because the big bad Bills beat Miami. Jeesh that was really really hard to watch.

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Can't disagree with you.

 

As I mentioned in another thread I was initially all for the Rex Ryan hire but after the New England debacle I began to second guess it and after this game I'm doing the same thing. No discipline and our defense hasn't been close to the dominant defense it was last year..... people killed Marrone all offseason and even during the season last year, but at this point I'd take him over Rex.

Marrone takes a lot of heat around here. So I'm almost afraid to even say I might take Marrone over Rex too. People like to marginalize his coaching ability because he betrayed us. That being said, forget about Marrone because he did quit on us. So you can't really say we'd take Marrone over Rex because he did quit on us.
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Believe me, this pains me to say this but this team is becoming an embarrassment. Too much hype, too much talking and no descipline, I don't like it, I don't like it one bit. The Bills need to just shut up, play football and be humble. This defense is a joke. The DL is nothing special so far, the LBs at best is fair and Gilmore, who the hell has the balls to even mention his name in the same sentence as Revis??!!! If this was another player from another team I'd be laughing my ass off and ripping him a new one! The only players that are standing out right now besides Taylor are our rookies! Ryan has a big mouth and I'm already getting a bellyful of that fat bastard. I couldn't stand his father and I'm rapidly starting to hate this freaking idiot.

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Believe me, this pains me to say this but this team is becoming an embarrassment. Too much hype, too much talking and no descipline, I don't like it, I don't like it one bit. The Bills need to just shut up, play football and be humble. This defense is a joke. The DL is nothing special so far, the LBs at best is fair and Gilmore, who the hell has the balls to even mention his name in the same sentence as Revis??!!! If this was another player from another team I'd be laughing my ass off and ripping him a new one! The only players that are standing out right now besides Taylor are our rookies! Ryan has a big mouth and I'm already getting a bellyful of that fat bastard. I couldn't stand his father and I'm rapidly starting to hate this freaking idiot.

I'm feeling the same. The choice of the words "build a bully" while politically incorrect these days, is scary to me for a completely separate reason. Bullies act like idiots (personal fouls) and eventually get beat up by someone bigger than them (The Patriots and the Giants). So far this year Ryan has gone up against two coaches who are better than him. He has lost to both. Just saying. Edited by DriveFor1Outta5
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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

Coaching is the problem.

 

17 penalties? 15 yarder, backed up with another 15 yarder, with Rex on the field being hauled off by an assistant?

 

 

This **** is top down.

 

Our head coach is a top 5 defensive co-ordinator. He's a bottom 10 head coach.

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I though this was a big opportunity for Woods today to show why he deserves more targets.

 

Jayron Hosley Island: population Robert Woods.

This. I kinda felt like the players sucked today on offense, not so much the coaches. It's a next man up league and they didn't man up. Woods and all the receivers save for Clay, were pretty disappointing.

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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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Marrone takes a lot of heat around here. So I'm almost afraid to even say I might take Marrone over Rex too. People like to marginalize his coaching ability because he betrayed us. That being said, forget about Marrone because he did quit on us. So you can't really say we'd take Marrone over Rex because he did quit on us.

I thought Marrone sucked as Coach and was glad he " betrayed us" and left. It gave us an out as TP was probably going to extend him. I like my chances better with Ryan. This team is still an unknown in many ways, and the season always has twists and turns. Beating down a crappy Dolphins team doesn't mean they've turned a corner. The QB is inexperienced and prone to bad days like today. Maybe TT isn't good enough to carry a team on his back and make the players around him better like great QBs do . Is that surprising? Maybe he can't make up for no Watkins and no Shady out there. The O sucked today and is 90% of why they lost. The other crap is just peripheral.

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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

great post K-9, the bolded is a great phrase, couldn't agree more with it.

 

 

Even Clay's inability to position himself and fight for the ball on the interception was disappointing to me. That was a big momentum shifting sort of play too.

 

That was an awful pass by TT.

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I see Mario williams play tough and bad boy within control the rest of the D needs to do the same .. Brown, Hughes , Rambo I feel all are high emotional guys who needs to be kept in check you know bellicheat or any coach would of pulled Hughes or brown after those boneheaded plays I can't believe we left them in they deserved a 1 play a$$ chew out not matter the outcome of the single play.

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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

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The offense sucked today, oh well. However, the defense is another story. Rex with his stupid fancy blitzes, Kyle Williams dropping into coverage at least three times, Hughes dropping into coverage more than half the time as a 170lb corner gets ate up by a 300lb offensive lineman. This defense is designed to beat other teams straight up, straight up is not how they are being used. People want to crown Rex as a defensive mastermind. It appears Rex feels he has to live up to that. The result, a loss...............

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Looks like another year of pretending vs. contending with this group.

 

Offensively, I don't understand how Roman can go from the play designs of a week ago to seemingly having little clue this afternoon. I'm sure the tape review will show how much we missed Sammy and Shady in the passing game and I can cut him some slack for that, but that two minute offense to end the first half was beyond comprehension. NOBODY on the field or sideline had any idea of what they wanted to do and that worries me greatly moving forward. What were they doing on the sideline while the defense was on the field before getting the ball back? No excuse for that display of two minute offense. None.

 

Defensively, we once again lost our composure at critical times and it worries me that Rex seemed unperturbed with it in his presser. I can only hope he supported them publicly but will rip them all a new one in the film room. Brady did indeed provide a blue print and good QBs like Manning can execute the kind of offense that neutralizes our pass rush and forces our LBs to cover.

 

I won't say anything about the atrocious tackling all day, other than when your team scores a momentum changing TD to get within six, your defense needs to come up big with a stop if it wants to call itself a good defense. Bradham's miss will keep him in my doghouse for a long time. Embarrassing to say the least.

 

We are NOT a great defense and somebody on that unit needs to stand up and scream that at the top of his lungs in that lockerroom. I think they've been reading their clippings and enjoy being coddled by Ryan. Well Rex, this defense has HUGE problems when facing anything other than a poor team with average QBing. Good teams with average QBs can beat us when we play like today. Good teams with good QBs will embarrass us if we can't fix these problems.

 

Bottom line is, I don't think the Giants beat us as much as we beat ourselves. 99% of the time, that's a coaching issue and our staff schit the bed big time today. Amateur hour indeed.

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

Agreed... :thumbsup:

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This year, the defense has regressed, the offense seems erratic and even special teams are a worry. All this has happened under Rex. On the plus side, I firmly believe that, if Pegula and Whaley determine Rex is the problem, they won't waste time getting rid of him. I believe the ice under his dainty feet is rapidly thinning.

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Today's game did feel all too familiar. We've seen this far too many times over the years.

 

I'm not going to add to the criticism of the defense, because I would just be repeating what everyone else on here has already said.

 

What puzzled me today was our offense. How is it that we were so creative with our play calling last week and yet so timid this week?

 

I know we were without Watkins & McCoy, so what? The offense looked confused out there today.

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I see Mario williams play tough and bad boy within control the rest of the D needs to do the same .. Brown, Hughes , Rambo I feel all are high emotional guys who needs to be kept in check you know bellicheat or any coach would of pulled Hughes or brown after those boneheaded plays I can't believe we left them in they deserved a 1 play a$$ chew out not matter the outcome of the single play.

Definitely. I was screaming at Rex through the TV, "take control of your team"

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The offense sucked today, oh well. However, the defense is another story. Rex with his stupid fancy blitzes, Kyle Williams dropping into coverage at least three times, Hughes dropping into coverage more than half the time as a 170lb corner gets ate up by a 300lb offensive lineman. This defense is designed to beat other teams straight up, straight up is not how they are being used. People want to crown Rex as a defensive mastermind. It appears Rex feels he has to live up to that. The result, a loss...............

I couldn't agree more! Rex thinks that he has to reinvent the wheel! Just line up and play football, we got the better athletes than most teams. Man, this guy sure is full of himself!

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Couldn't agree more with regard to the offense. It's like Roman outsmarted himself. Last week, when the Dolphins thought the Bills would run, he rolled Tyrod out of the pocket and passed 5 times on the first drive for a TD. This week, missing Shady and Watkins, he bashes Ka. Williams up the middle a la Nate Hackett. He tries long sweeping plays with Williams, something Shady would run, and they fail horribly. Short dink and dunk passes. It was just odd. The Giants were begging for the Bills to go deep. For me, this loss is on the coaching on the offense, just a very very bad game plan.

 

I know some fans want to jump on the defense but the game as a whole wasn't as bad as it appeared, to me at least. The Giants adopted the short quick throws that the Pats** did 2 weeks earlier. As a result the defense wasn't able to get pressure on Eli but this didn't result in Eli torching the Bills like Brady did. The Bills forced 8 punts, 4 in each half. They shut down ODB and R. Randle. It's not like Eli had his way with the Bills defense. Undisciplined play is what cost 2 of the TDs. Look at the long TD drive in the second quarter. Personal foul on Hughes gives them an extra 15 yards. Then after they have them stopped for a FG K. Williams makes a bone head play and lines up over the center. Then Darby gets called for a hold on an overthrown ball.

 

I think the defense got the offense the ball back with plenty of opportunities. After the second TD the Giants scored the defense forced five 3 and outs and a 5 and a 6 play stop. What did the offense do? 3 plays - Punt, 6 plays - Punt, 3 plays - Punt, missed FG and turnover on downs. Pathetic. Even after the turnover on downs the defense forced a 3 and out and finally the offense scored.

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This year, the defense has regressed, the offense seems erratic and even special teams are a worry. All this has happened under Rex. On the plus side, I firmly believe that, if Pegula and Whaley determine Rex is the problem, they won't waste time getting rid of him. I believe the ice under his dainty feet is rapidly thinning.

Except that Ryan will be the Bills coach for at least , oh two years. That's probably a minimum. They lost a winnable game because the offense sucked and the team is 2-2. Not time to panic yet.

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I never liked the hire from the very beginning. I think Rex is a loud mouth all talk guy. I have said this numerous times and im saying it again-we are seeing the same garbage that was his demise in NY. The Jets fans know the game and couldnt stand the idiot for the very reasons everyon mentions. For Christ sake he is still worried about New England. All this talent and we are playing stupid football. Every team has injuries btw and we have enough depth to win right now. While I am at it who the hell lines Kyle Williams up at end then drops him into coverage. That happened right in front of me and I thought ok maybe its a stunt and he quickly gets back to tackle and then snap and the dude is in the flat lol wtf???? And hell Thigpen inside then ten let it go ya moron thats football 101. With new ownership and deep pockets they wont be scared to can Rex if this continues. 5 bucks says he is in Whaleys office right now.

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I never liked the hire from the very beginning. I think Rex is a loud mouth all talk guy. I have said this numerous times and im saying it again-we are seeing the same garbage that was his demise in NY. The Jets fans know the game and couldnt stand the idiot for the very reasons everyon mentions. For Christ sake he is still worried about New England. All this talent and we are playing stupid football. Every team has injuries btw and we have enough depth to win right now. While I am at it who the hell lines Kyle Williams up at end then drops him into coverage. That happened right in front of me and I thought ok maybe its a stunt and he quickly gets back to tackle and then snap and the dude is in the flat lol wtf???? And hell Thigpen inside then ten let it go ya moron thats football 101. With new ownership and deep pockets they wont be scared to can Rex if this continues. 5 bucks says he is in Whaleys office right now.

Pegula has shown more than once already with the Sabres that he will indeed fire people when things don't go as planned, and he is not afraid to effectively say "I was wrong" in so doing.

 

Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier can tell you what I'm talking about.

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Pegula has shown more than once already with the Sabres that he will indeed fire people when things don't go as planned, and he is not afraid to effectively say "I was wrong" in so doing.

 

Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier can tell you what I'm talking about.

Your right and Rex wont get 3 years. Not even close. If we were in rebuild then maybe, but no way, not with this roster. His press conference yesterday was grose. The team has zero focus and discipline-the hallmark of a Rex Ryan team.

 

Jets fans went through the exact same BS.

 

Rex is all hat and no cowboy.

Im on your side. I HATED the hire

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Jets fans went through the exact same BS.

 

Rex is all hat and no cowboy.

All show, no go. Whatever you want to call it, but that sums up Ryan so far as a head coach in the NFL. All his false bravado bull **** with the Jets, and proclaiming that the Bills would go to the playoffs earlier this season and he has yet to back any of it up on the field. The Bills are 2-2, not 0-4 so no reason to string him up just yet. And it is all new coaches, new system, blah blah blah ... you know the same excuses as every season it seems. But the facts are that they beat 2 bad teams and lost badly to a good team and a mediocre team due to bad play and worse coaching. If the Bills are to make the playoffs this season, and they certainly still could, Ryan needs to get his head out of his ass, get his team under control, and start coaching this team instead of making cute Tops and Dunn Tire commercials.

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Except that Ryan will be the Bills coach for at least , oh two years. That's probably a minimum. They lost a winnable game because the offense sucked and the team is 2-2. Not time to panic yet.

They probably can only afford three more losses on the year and still expect a post season. Since the jets are looking tough, the pats, Chiefs, Dallas and bengals are are still out there, they really couldn't afford dropping one to the Giants. My take on the team is they are tracking toward 9-7 and another playoff miss.

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They probably can only afford three more losses on the year and still expect a post season. Since the jets are looking tough, the pats, Chiefs, Dallas and bengals are are still out there, they really couldn't afford dropping one to the Giants. My take on the team is they are tracking toward 9-7 and another playoff miss.

If anything, an NFC team is one they could afford to lose to. Last year the Bills went 4-0 vs NFC yet still were on the wrong end of all tiebreaks in December due to AFC losses. They need to win AFC games, and only 4 teams in AFC have better record than Bills. They are still in decent shape there.

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