eball Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Watkins Woods Harvin Hogan Thompson Thigpen - For special teams Davis Practice Squad Goodwin - Gone hopefully, the guy is just hurt way too much.. I like his speed, but that's about it.. Easely - Gone if hogan, thompson, and thigpen are 4-6 on the depth chart.... i feel like i should make some bold proclamation of something outrageous i would do.... but yea... i would be absolutely shocked. Agreed, that is one of the more "out there" projections at WR. Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Easley, Goodwin, Thompson is the way I'm starting to lean. I believe Thigpen and Hogan will be the odd men out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 OP, can you add a poll, I'm curious what the overall opinion is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thompson and Davis. Seeya Hogan and Goodwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Calling Goodwin a lock before camp was an exaggeration. Saying it as camp closes, considering how he's played, is not. He's a lock. Do I get to come back to you and gloat, if he gets cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thompson and Davis. Seeya Hogan and Goodwin. right. not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Do I get to come back to you and gloat, if he gets cut? 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Pats would pick Hogan up ---he would be slot for them and put up huge numbersYeah and his 400 yard "break out" 2014 season. Guy's a plodder. Pats would have zero interest IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 i said it in the other thread, but if hogan and chandler are putting up numbers for NE i like our odds. You make a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 DT > CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If the Bills' discards are good enough to be Pats** starters we're going to be a damn good team. I am not for getting rid of Hogan. He is a great 4 for us. The others havent played against good talent yet or a schemed defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Dez Lewis can go to the PS, Hogan is a cut, Palmer is a cut, Thigpen is a cut, Goodwin should be traded for something healthier and more useful...Davis and Thompson BOTH make my active roster. Man, that would be one solid WR corp! Edited August 26, 2015 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Dez Lewis can go to the PS, Hogan is a cut, Palmer is a cut, Thigpen is a cut, Goodwin should be traded for something healthier and more useful...Davis and Thompson BOTH make my active roster. Man, that would be one solid WR corp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtebow15 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If someone like Thompson is getting trade interest (I'm sure Hogan is not) I'd trade him for a 5th. You can get a player in the 5th round but I don't like 6 or 7 round picks as undrafted free agents usually fare just as well. The reason is that none of these guys are going to see much time on the field and there isn't a heck of a lot of difference between them. If you can't get a 5th pick I think he brings a little more to the table than Hogan does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Deonte hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 again, why is hogan agreeing to go on IR if healthy? no one has explained that part to me yet, and its kind of an important piece. Why do you feel going on IR is negotiable? Plus, you receive your salary instead of being cut. Plus, if you're cut you may have to settle for a lesser salary to get picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Why do you feel going on IR is negotiable? Because it is, for an uninjured player. You give good reasons why a player might accept it. But I'm pretty sure an uninjured player can file a grievance with the NFL if they are put on IR without being injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) I'd say the Bills keep Hogan and Thompson and cut Goodwin. I really don't buy the hype with Goodwin at all. All speed no hands. Edited August 26, 2015 by Lincoln Osiris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'd say the Bills keep Hogan and Thompson and cut Goodwin. I haven't really don't buy the hype with Goodwin at all. All speed no hands. And always hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 And always hurt! lol exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I have yet to be impressed with Hogan's play up to this point and I don't see him being the reliable type, a guy that always catches the ball, no matter what. I see Thompson flashing more ability as a wideout. Regarding Easley, let's assume Rex's gives Crossman the freedom to pick one guy ST outside of kicker and punter, that guy would undoubtedly be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Watkins, Woods, Hogan, Thompson, Harvin, and Easley and Thigpen. I'd be totally fine with that. I think Bacarri Rambo could replace Easley as a special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 100% Just one other argument to why it's an exaggeration to say he's a "lock"-- If Watkins were to injure himself tomorrow, and be out for 8 weeks, would he still be on the team? Of course he would. He's a lock. Can the same be said for Goodwin? I don't think so. Do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think Bacarri Rambo could replace Easley as a special teamer.Sure he could. He just wouldn't do nearly as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Sure he could. He just wouldn't do nearly as well! Why get bogged down in details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 DT will be nothing once the real game starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Goodwin is a lock on the roster. Again, how some people dont see that is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Just one other argument to why it's an exaggeration to say he's a "lock"-- If Watkins were to injure himself tomorrow, and be out for 8 weeks, would he still be on the team? Of course he would. He's a lock. Can the same be said for Goodwin? I don't think so. Do you? No, that's why I said unless he gets hurt. If he gets hurt, he's definitely not a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Last year Hogan was Mr. Reliable but from everything i've read, this camp has not been good to or for him ! He looked in pictures that he had been hitting the gym pretty hard & ready to play but the unfortunate ankle injury & then the inconsistent hands didn't endear him to the new coaching staff . So i guess if they are looking forward, going strictly off this camp then i would say Thompson should be the guy but if you look at Hogans history & how hard he works then he could easily be the guy . Go figure ?? Your guess is as good as mine ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 No, that's why I said unless he gets hurt. If he gets hurt, he's definitely not a lock. Hmmm. Maybe we have different definitions of the term lock? What if Watkins were to drop four passes in a row vs. Steelers? Would he still make the 53? I do believe he would. What if Goodwin drops four passes in a row on Saturday? Would he still make the 53? If the answer to that is no, or maybe, or even probably, then he isn't a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Hmmm. Maybe we have different definitions of the term lock? What if Watkins were to drop four passes in a row vs. Steelers? Would he still make the 53? I do believe he would. What if Goodwin drops four passes in a row on Saturday? Would he still make the 53? If the answer to that is no, or maybe, or even probably, then he isn't a lock. Goodwin is making the team. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Goodwin is making the team. Better? I'll accept, "Goodwin is probably making the team," AND NOTHING LESS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'll accept, "Goodwin is probably making the team," AND NOTHING LESS!!! You'll get that over my cold dead body! (Preferably my body will be cold from exposure to the elements, and dead from alcohol poisoning, after celebrating the Bills winning a home playoff game in January -- a man's gotta' have goals.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I'll accept, "Goodwin is probably making the team," AND NOTHING LESS!!! Goodwin is a lock, but they forgot to actually lock it on the way to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Buffalo Bills trade rumors: Deonte Thompson a hot commodity, per Rex Ryan http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/8/24/9196567/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-deonte-thompson-rex-ryan If the Bills can get something for either of these guys and keep them away from an AFCE opponent good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Because it is, for an uninjured player. You give good reasons why a player might accept it. But I'm pretty sure an uninjured player can file a grievance with the NFL if they are put on IR without being injured. Indeed a player could force his release. And for a guy like hogan on a 1 year 585k deal facing restricted free agency next year, its hard to believe his current situation would be worse than a UFA opportunity... if he cant find a team to pay him that, you have to seriously question what we are stashing him for in this scenario. Edited August 26, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) There it is again. In Welker's 2 best years he combined for 245 catches and roughly 3,000 yards. In Hogan's career he has 51 for 509 yards. He is VERY reminiscent of Welker in his prime. I know that this will shock some, but I think that it is Hogan for me. p.s. Every time that someone compares Hogan to Welker they should get their posting privileges revoked. They are NOTHING alike. Yup very poor comparison. Hogan is average height, strong and athletic and fast, and gains separation with precise route running, welker is small shifty and quick, his burst gains him separation. Aside from the rarity of a Caucasian WR is their motor is always pegged, but different players, completely. One other similarity, both accumulate about 400 yards in their first 3 years of playing. Indeed a player could force his release. And for a guy like hogan on a 1 year 585k deal facing restricted free agency next year, its hard to believe his current situation would be worse than a UFA opportunity... if he cant find a team to pay him that, you have to seriously question what we are stashing him for in this scenario. He will latch on somewhere. He can play wr, Ian's STs. Coaches like his work ethic and route running. Not a big RAC guy but can fill possession wr back up role. Goodwin is making the team. Better? His one asset is elite speed, and elite speed only works when your healthy, which he never is. Thompson is a fast deep threat too, but with added dimensions and height. He's a better FOOTBALL player than Goodwin. Edited August 26, 2015 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 His one asset is elite speed, and elite speed only works when your healthy, which he never is. You know... except for this camp where he's been healthy and played well, making plays in each game and practice. So maybe not the best argument to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) You know... except for this camp where he's been healthy and played well, making plays in each game and practice. So maybe not the best argument to use. He'll be on IR before November For whichever team he lands on. Edited August 26, 2015 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 He'll be on IR before November What has his injury history really been in the NFL? A broken hand was his worst injury, and that could have happened to anyone. Then he's had one "hamstring" injury last year that kept him out for an extended period of time -- though many reports speculate he wasn't injured as much as he was suffering from a case of Marrone's disease. His injury prone label is more myth than fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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