Doc Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Rotoworld is reporting Collins wants to play tackle, which would make the fish longshots.... http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10371/lael-Collins Thoughts on him playing tackle for Bills? They were already experimenting with sliding Glenn inside - not sure I understood or agreed with that one, but could Henderson slide into a guard spot? He could play RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 He could play RT. right away probably but we need the guard upgrade. i expect Seantrel will come along quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 right away probably but we need the guard upgrade. i expect Seantrel will come along quickly Maybe just me but I think it is too early to write off Cyrus K also. The battle of the guards will be quite nice, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 My two kids go to public school in Miami (the Palmetto schools in Pinecrest). Both my kids are in the gifted program, which is tremendous. I cannot imagine paying for a better education. I have nothing against private schools (I went to Nichols), but I have to tell you that there are some pretty darn good public schools in Miami. I also have to say that the current superintendent of the Miami-Dade public school system (Alberto Carvalho) is outstanding. That is not to say that all public schools in Miami are great. Indeed, there are some schools that I would never send my kids to, but there also are some schools in Buffalo and Erie County that I would never want my kids to attend. Just my two cents. I think some people get so caught up in the 'please love buffalo' thing that they fail to realize there are more than a few other nice places to live in this country. Good schools, safe neighborhoods and you get to see the sun more than occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Wherever his best opportunity is, he'll go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Maybe just me but I think it is too early to write off Cyrus K also. The battle of the guards will be quite nice, methinks. I thought they moved him to tackle already but regardless , there is going to be a battle of the guards I think some people get so caught up in the 'please love buffalo' thing that they fail to realize there are more than a few other nice places to live in this country. Good schools, safe neighborhoods and you get to see the sun more than occasionally. does that really matter for a kid who is looking to play and make his dime? we are lucky that some players have decided to settle down here and become part of the community. if i have a milllion bucks i can send my kid to any school i want. non issue even at 485 thousand. no issue. will i play? will we win? will I get the chance to excel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 I thought they moved him to tackle already but regardless , there is going to be a battle of the guards does that really matter for a kid who is looking to play and make his dime? we are lucky that some players have decided to settle down here and become part of the community. if i have a milllion bucks i can send my kid to any school i want. non issue even at 485 thousand. no issue. will i play? will we win? will I get the chance to excel You make $40 K a month, your kids can go to private school, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 You make $40 K a month, your kids can go to private school, no doubt. One would think right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) This reads like a Stevie Johnson tweet after dropping a TD pass against Pittsburgh. lol. thx tho "Implicated?" yeah, i meant he "was suggested as to be involved" in her murder. Implicated has a quite similar definition, and I can see where i got you confused. Edited May 6, 2015 by Uffalo Ills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 lol. thx tho yeah, i meant he "was suggested as to be involved" in her murder. Implicated has a quite similar definition, but I can see where you got confused. No, you meant he was questioned. He hasn't been implicated by anything other than speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 No, you meant he was questioned. He hasn't been implicated by anything other than speculation. Yeah, thats what I meant. So what? Implicated means that it is implied that he has had involvement, ergo, there is some suspicion cast around him in Rumor. I personally have no opinion as to whether or not he is suspicious, I'm just saying, it is rumored that he might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Rotoworld is reporting Collins wants to play tackle, which would make the fish longshots.... http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10371/lael-Collins Thoughts on him playing tackle for Bills? They were already experimenting with sliding Glenn inside - not sure I understood or agreed with that one, but could Henderson slide into a guard spot? I gotta think it would be Glenn sliding inside whereupon he would immediately be great. He played G in college and was very good there. I think he could become an All Pro at the position. I don't think he'll like the idea of getting paid at less than a LT, but, I'm thinking Pegula bucks just may satisfy him. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 That's a good threat but sitting out a full year and not playing football wouldn't help him get drafted the following year He would IIRC be a FA, not draft eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I think some people get so caught up in the 'please love buffalo' thing that they fail to realize there are more than a few other nice places to live in this country. Good schools, safe neighborhoods and you get to see the sun more than occasionally. Buffalo gets plenty of sun even in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) I thought they moved him to tackle already but regardless , there is going to be a battle of the guards does that really matter for a kid who is looking to play and make his dime? we are lucky that some players have decided to settle down here and become part of the community. if i have a milllion bucks i can send my kid to any school i want. non issue even at 485 thousand. no issue. will i play? will we win? will I get the chance to excel I'm sure it does for some of them. But all things being equal, i bet more players would choose san diego over buffalo. Buffalo gets plenty of sun even in winter. either this is sarcasm or you really don't get it. Edited May 6, 2015 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Buffalo gets plenty of sun even in winter. You don't get out much do you ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Paternity test results came back and Collins is not the father. Edited May 7, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Paternity tests results came back and Collins is not the father. it really is a shame how some media really slanted reports to sound scandalous instead of sticking to dry facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yeah, thats what I meant. So what? Implicated means that it is implied that he has had involvement, ergo, there is some suspicion cast around him in Rumor. I personally have no opinion as to whether or not he is suspicious, I'm just saying, it is rumored that he might be. Implication and being involved have similar connotations, but neither apply to Collins' situation with this murder investigation at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 it really is a shame how some media really slanted reports to sound scandalous instead of sticking to dry facts. Shocking...no...no its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I guess we're going to find out if Marv Levy was right when he said that talent without character will not win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I guess we're going to find out if Marv Levy was right when he said that talent without character will not win. Do you know what Marv Levy meant by "character?" GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Do you know what Marv Levy meant by "character?" GO BILLS!!! Apparently not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Do you know what Marv Levy meant by "character?" GO BILLS!!! A common problem around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 La'El is looking to be cleared, how long will this take ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 A common problem around here Has been for years. I almost feel like explaining one more time, just for old time's sake. Almost. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 La'El is looking to be cleared, how long will this take ?? He reportedly will begin meeting with teams officially on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Paternity tests results came back and Collins is not the father. Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the cops would say this gives Collins motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the cops would say this gives Collins motive. They hadn't talked since September. You think out of the blue, 8months later he suddenly snapped over a fling being close to giving birth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the cops would say this gives Collins motive.Not in this case they wouldn't. They dated briefly and if the child belonged to him he would be on the hook for A LOT in child support. This is not a jilted lover situation. The motive in this case would have been if the child was his. Edited May 7, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 They hadn't talked since September. You think out of the blue, 8months later he suddenly snapped over a fling being close to giving birth? It's not impossible but if the baby wasn't even his, they might be digging in the wrong ditch. Not in this case they wouldn't. They dated briefly and if if the child belong to him he would be on the hook for A LOT in child support. This is not a jilted lover situation. The motive in this case would have been if the child was his. Exactly, the financial motives all get taken away there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I still think the commish should allow him to enter the supplemental draft if cleared in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Do you know what Marv Levy meant by "character?" GO BILLS!!! That's not really much of a rebuttal. Here's the full quote: "Ability without character will lose. The Bills are going to be a team of high character. That stamp I will push very hard. I hope we can convey that to our fans and project something very special to the rest of the nation." Also, here's a link to a program and educational brief from a Marv Levy lecture. Heart of a Hall of Famer Series: Marv Levy - Extreme Networks Notice the items listed under the learning objectives section. These are what I think Marv meant by character. It sounds to me like he wanted to build a team of players that the community and the nation can be proud of. I'm not sure how proud you can be of wife beaters, bullies and murderers. If you think you know something different the say what you think it means and back it up with some research. Otherwise, your argument is basically worthless. Edited May 7, 2015 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I watched a murder trial once where the guy was convicted of killing his ex after the child was born and before the paternity test came back, allegedly because he was concerned about having to pay child support. If I thought like a lot of people do I would assume he's guilty because it fits my narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The results of the paternity test and passing the polygraph don't mean much. The cell phone/tower records mean more as a way to show that he wasn't the one who pulled the trigger. But if he had someone do it for him, that person needs to be caught and confess for anything to happen to Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The results of the paternity test and passing the polygraph don't mean much. The cell phone/tower records mean more as a way to show that he wasn't the one who pulled the trigger. But if he had someone do it for him, that person needs to be caught and confess for anything to happen to Collins. No known motive now Passed a lie detector Proven not in the city Publicly not a suspect Met with police and answered every question And we still had someone saying they suspect him more after the paternity test. It's amazing how some latch onto a narrative once the media nudges towards it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I watched a murder trial once where the guy was convicted of killing his ex after the child was born and before the paternity test came back, allegedly because he was concerned about having to pay child support. If I thought like a lot of people do I would assume he's guilty because it fits my narrative. No known motive now Passed a lie detector Proven not in the city Publicly not a suspect Met with police and answered every question And we still had someone saying they suspect him more after the paternity test. It's amazing how some latch onto a narrative once the media nudges towards it I understand that both of you are intimately familiar with the details of the current ongoing police investigation, but for the benefit of the rest of us without this insider knowledge, how about we wait until the results are in before we declare which group of fans have latched onto a narrative and refuse to let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I understand that both of you are intimately familiar with the details of the current ongoing police investigation, but for the benefit of the rest of us without this insider knowledge, how about we wait until the results are in before we declare which group of fans have latched onto a narrative and refuse to let go. That was the point of my post. Sorry if it was too nuanced for you. I'm pretty sure NoSaint wasn't claiming to know the outcome either, but rather (I assume) was stating that there is no publicly known evidence upon which anyone could responsibly call him a suspect at this point. Edited May 7, 2015 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I still think the commish should allow him to enter the supplemental draft if cleared in time. While I'm really hoping Rex made an impression on Monday night and we get a first round pick for free, I agree with this. They wanted to be moved into the supplemental draft before last Thursday. He wasn't drafted. Police have said he wasn't involved. Roger should snap out of heartless robot mode and understand this is a rare circumstance and help him get his career back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 That was the point of my post. Sorry if it was too nuanced for you. I think my response was above your head. I think that your "nuanced" response is guilty of the same logical fallacy that you are accusing other people of. Perhaps you're too blind to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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