YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Says he could be had for a 3rd or 4th rd pick. Would you trade our 3rd? Whaley already tried to trade for him so we know they want him. Is that too much for him? http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/30/extra-points-pat-rule-change-nfl-draft/ Edited April 5, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 At some point you have to stop spending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 In a second. He should already be on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Bills probably offering a 5th. I still think they get him. Bills too vocal about not fixing the OL. I think it's a game they are playing with NO. Edited March 30, 2015 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_g Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 At this point it's more about the money I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Jahri Evans is coming off of his worst pro season IMO. With that being said I would do that in a second. The Bills need a veteran offensive lineman and would be fortunate to have one with the talent of Evans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I wouldnt even think twice about trading a 3rd round pick for him Do it Doug! CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 At this point it's more about the money I would think.They would restructure his contract also cut Chris Williams. Jahri Evans is coming off of his worst pro season IMO. With that being said I would do that in a second. The Bills need a veteran offensive lineman and would be fortunate to have one with the talent of Evans.still a top run blocker. Plus he played injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon_g Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They would restructure his contract also cut Chris Williams. Probably right but cutting Williams now dosent save them much, Have to wait until after June 6th, so that means getting rid of someone else, or getting Cassel to restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They would restructure his contract also cut Chris Williams. still a top run blocker. Plus he played injured. this. Get Evans, and then you are totally free to draft BPA w/o regard to position. Hopefully Stephone Anthony from Clemson at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 With only 2 picks in the top 150 I am hesitant. But at the same time one of those top two picks is going to be used on a OL. We picked 3 OL last year who are still very young and developing. Evans is a top notch run blocker and played for Kromer, would be a big asset from that standpoint, and would be an outstanding vet presence on the line. since we already have young prospects on the line I would say do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Whaley was quoted as saying he sees this years draft picks as back-ups only anyways...they might be waiting till the draft starts to see if they take a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Is it possible that he gets cut at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think we play hardball until they have to release him or another surprise cut comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 id do a 4th...but we don't have one ooops. thanks Bryce Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Whaley was quoted as saying he sees this years draft picks as back-ups only anyways...they might be waiting till the draft starts to see if they take a 5th What i got out of that was except for OG they would be backups. Evans' salary is probably prohibitive unless they could restructure. But they have put a lot off to save cap room for this year. They could do it but it would be tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Since we don't have a 4th I imagine it's a tough call, as I agree they're probably offering one of our 5ths. Maybe if nobody else bites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Since we don't have a 4th I imagine it's a tough call, as I agree they're probably offering one of our 5ths. Maybe if nobody else bites...we only have one 5th. We do have 2 6ths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Give 'em a 5th next year that upgrades to a 4th if he starts 16 games, and a 3rd if he makes the pro bowl or if Buffalo makes the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 His cap hit over the next two years is around $21M. His dead cap for the next two years is $6.5M. He would have to restructure, but if he didn't, what would be his cap hit for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 His cap hit over the next two years is around $21M. His dead cap for the next two years is $6.5M. He would have to restructure, but if he didn't, what would be his cap hit for us? Not positive, but I think it'd be a 6 mil cap hit this year and 8.7 mil in 2016 if he didn't restructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 . Would you trade our 3rd? Yes, I would. He's got 2-3 years left at a high level of play (not Pro Bowl, but very good) and would add a veteran presence to the line that would be very valuable, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) With a new & more competent O line coach one that is actually proven he is worth a pay check & the talent that we picked up in the draft last year i think the coaches are satisfied with who we have for now & could get more info about those on the roster during OTA's . Edited March 30, 2015 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yes, I would. He's got 2-3 years left at a high level of play (not Pro Bowl, but very good) and would add a veteran presence to the line that would be very valuable, IMO. What do we do to free up that cap though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not positive, but I think it'd be a 6 mil cap hit this year and 8.7 mil in 2016 if he didn't restructure basically cut the signing, and restructure amortizations out. it would be his salary, plus workout bonuses.... and possibly roster depending on when its paid. This year hed be around 7, next 8.7m Any trade with him would likely come with a fresh contract. if they could get him to sign on a 4 year deal averaging 5-6m for instance, you could do a lot of magic with his number for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 What i got out of that was except for OG they would be backups. Evans' salary is probably prohibitive unless they could restructure. But they have put a lot off to save cap room for this year. They could do it but it would be tight. Restructure Mario! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Probably right but cutting Williams now dosent save them much, Have to wait until after June 6th, so that means getting rid of someone else, or getting Cassel to restructure.They don't have to wait. Cut today with June 1st designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 What i got out of that was except for OG they would be backups. Evans' salary is probably prohibitive unless they could restructure. But they have put a lot off to save cap room for this year. They could do it but it would be tight. I suspect that at the #50 spot, they'll be able to get a guard with as much promise as Evans, and that player will be cheaper. And the Bills will have control for longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) I also like that he plays RG because he would be next to Seantrel who could benefit from a strong veteran presence next to him. Edited March 30, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 At some point you have to stop spending! My guess is if they acquired Evans they would most likely cut Chris Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Interesting note on his poor PFF grade last year in pass blocking @ChrisTrapasso: Interesting tidbit re: Evans' -17.7 pass-blocking @PFF grade in 2014. Whopping -6.0 of that came in Week 5 game vs Buccaneers/Gerald McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 What do we do to free up that cap though? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/ Chris Williams - June 1st cut ($3.35 million cap space, $1.4 million dead money) Matt Cassel - restructure to a two-year contract (reduce $4.75 million cap hit for 2015) Also, maybe do something with Eric Wood's contract ($6.7 million cap hit for 2015) or Manny Lawson (I know we need LBs, but this is where a younger guy at pick 50 could be a better use of money, IMO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They currently have $4.382M in space aside from their draft pool allocation, so they'd really only need to come up with another $3M or so...easy enough to do if they add a year to Cassel's deal and extend Bradham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Restructure Mario! They could but right now Evans is not worth 7-8m on the Bills cap. That's why NO wants to get rid of him. He's good still but not 7-8m good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 They could but right now Evans is not worth 7-8m on the Bills cap. That's why NO wants to get rid of him. He's good still but not 7-8m good. Restructure him as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Restructure Mario! As I've said a few times: I think the best allocation of resources is to manage the cap to absorb Mario's hit this year, and then sign him to a new contract next year. It's the best of all worlds: gives Mario a giant lump sum of cash next offseason, gives Buffalo the cap relief, keeps the player here for (presumably) the rest of his career, and allows the team to load the final year of the deal with a gargantuan base salary or roster bonus that won't come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I suspect that at the #50 spot, they'll be able to get a guard with as much promise as Evans, and that player will be cheaper. And the Bills will have control for longer. I think either AJ Cann or Laken Tomlinson will be there at 50. I'd much rather go with one of these guys, and roll with the young guys we already have and hope with new coaching/scheme things come together. I just can't see spending an additional 5-6 million per year on a guard at this point when we have players who are approaching FA that we need to be extending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The rumor mill says he'll be cut if they can't trade him. No sense in offering up a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think either AJ Cann or Laken Tomlinson will be there at 50. I'd much rather go with one of these guys, and roll with the young guys we already have and hope with new coaching/scheme things come together. I just can't see spending an additional 5-6 million per year on a guard at this point when we have players who are approaching FA that we need to be extending. If you're going to take a guard at 50, those would be the guys. After that, I'm all-in on Jarvis Harrison of Texas A&M. The rumor mill says he'll be cut if they can't trade him. No sense in offering up a pick. Unless you don't think you can entice him to come here after he's cut. Not saying that's the case; just clarifying why you'd offer a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Unless you don't think you can entice him to come here after he's cut. Not saying that's the case; just clarifying why you'd offer a pick. Kromer's relationship with him could give us an edge on the open market though, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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