The Big Cat Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Thought you were saying was cut! Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 so they are benching CR, and leaving Pears at RG (urbiks former position)..... im surprised, but i havent compared/contrasted the two on the level coaches likely have..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 They could have flipped a coin because both are playing awful. My guess is since its the blindside, it makes more sense to try Urbik there and shore up that side first. Maybe we see CK in a few weeks for Pears if his poor play continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'd rather he replace Pears, honestly. But, the offense has gone into pass mode, so I guess it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 About friggin' time! Although Pears still starting at RG isn't a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 All-22 showed the left side has been CONSISTENTLY befuddled by stunts since week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 About seven weeks late, but I will take it. I loath Pears as a player, that said the rookie has been getting worse and needed to sit. It's the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 All-22 showed the left side has been CONSISTENTLY befuddled by stunts since week 3. My untrained eye has shown me the same re the right side too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 My untrained eye has shown me the same re the right side too. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 As bad as Pears has been, a change on that side would probably make Henderson worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 since the main problem for the left side of the line appears to be stunts, which means speaks to communication and experience issues between Glenn and Richardson; it remains to be seen if Urbik's experience from his days at RG translate to better play and communication at LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Richardson has been worse that Pears... and that is really saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Gotta be better than before, now let's hope Ubrick and Wood stay healthy. Fingerscrossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 About friggin' time! Although Pears still starting at RG isn't a good thing. agree but Richardson is clearly not ready...i think he will be good but we need vets in there. This team can make a run to playoffs with a bit more consistent offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yeah, I liked Urbik as RG going into the season, but Richardson has been worse than Pears. Pears isn't good, but he is a veteran and he is better than Richardson right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Okay. Fact of the matter, it is a total disaster at both spots. Unless we can clone Urbik or pick someone else up, at least one side will be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Richardson has to be benched this Sunday with Urbik starting in his place. I'll be surprised if Marrone doesn't announce this on Wednesday because he cannot be this damned dumb and/or stubborn. Edited October 22, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 All-22 showed the left side has been CONSISTENTLY befuddled by stunts since week 3. bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I wonder if they try to get Kujo into the RG spot after the break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Richardson is a good run blocker. He's pancaked a few big guys, including JJ Watt. However, he cannot pass block. Yet. They can teach him. I think he'll need to drop 15 pounds in order to be quick enough to pass block. What about Hairston? Can he play guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Pears has been (slightly) better than Richardson, so I like the move. Cyril has been abused on stunts recently, and Urbik's veteran presence should help both Wood and Glenn on that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My friend from Phoenix texted me this morning that local talk radio (I know, I know) was droning on and on that The Cards were either trading for or trying hard to trade for CJ Spiller until he got hurt this week. He couldn't tell if they were implying it was close to a done deal or they were just in serious talks. Of course, not sure of the validity of that and I take it with a grain of salt. That said, they do have a guard prospect in Jonathan Cooper who has been a disappointment and is second string. Marrone has an arrogance about being able to coach guys up (although we clearly haven't seen it). Teams don't usually give up on guys drafted so high so early, but if they thought Spiller to give them juice for a playoff run they could have pulled the trigger. Means nothing now but thought it was a tad interesting. I sincerely doubt we would have traded Spiller for a mid round draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Richardson is a good run blocker. He's pancaked a few big guys, including JJ Watt. However, he cannot pass block. Yet. They can teach him. I think he'll need to drop 15 pounds in order to be quick enough to pass block. What about Hairston? Can he play guard? I don't think he can.. that is just according to what Joe B has said when he was put there a bit in off season / pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Also worth nothing that Pears is a better pass blocker than Richardson, and we are clearly becoming more of a passing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My friend from Phoenix texted me this morning that local talk radio (I know, I know) was droning on and on that The Cards were either trading for or trying hard to trade for CJ Spiller until he got hurt this week. He couldn't tell if they were implying it was close to a done deal or they were just in serious talks. Of course, not sure of the validity of that and I take it with a grain of salt. That said, they do have a guard prospect in Jonathan Cooper who has been a disappointment and is second string. Marrone has an arrogance about being able to coach guys up (although we clearly haven't seen it). Teams don't usually give up on guys drafted so high so early, but if they thought Spiller to give them juice for a playoff run they could have pulled the trigger. Means nothing now but thought it was a tad interesting. I sincerely doubt we would have traded Spiller for a mid round draft pick. That makes a ton of sense. I would not be at all surprised if those talks took place on both players based on the needs/situation with players and team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 About time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnlSphsG9ac That makes a ton of sense. I would not be at all surprised if those talks took place on both players based on the needs/situation with players and team. CJ and Ellington seem very similar. Surprised they wouldn't be looking for more of a bruiser to complement him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Pears is ok in pass protection, its the run that eats him up. Richardson is horrible in pass protection and Urbik is average. Clearly we're going to throw a bit more and this is the best guard combo to do it with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 My friend from Phoenix texted me this morning that local talk radio (I know, I know) was droning on and on that The Cards were either trading for or trying hard to trade for CJ Spiller until he got hurt this week. He couldn't tell if they were implying it was close to a done deal or they were just in serious talks. Of course, not sure of the validity of that and I take it with a grain of salt. That said, they do have a guard prospect in Jonathan Cooper who has been a disappointment and is second string. Marrone has an arrogance about being able to coach guys up (although we clearly haven't seen it). Teams don't usually give up on guys drafted so high so early, but if they thought Spiller to give them juice for a playoff run they could have pulled the trigger. Means nothing now but thought it was a tad interesting. I sincerely doubt we would have traded Spiller for a mid round draft pick. Can you provide multiple, ongoing examples of this? Because you keep harping on it like it's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 As bad as Pears has been, a change on that side would probably make Henderson worse having a better player next to him could just as easily help. especially one that has played the position long term. ill agree that CR has been a mess in pass pro, and we seem to be passing more -- but still have a nagging feeling that Urbik at his natural position would likely be the logical choice here if both guys are a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnlSphsG9ac That makes a ton of sense. I would not be at all surprised if those talks took place on both players based on the needs/situation with players and team. Ha! BillsBackersofChicago will appreciate this (he knows those guys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Ha! BillsBackersofChicago will appreciate this (he knows those guys) no way... Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can you provide multiple, ongoing examples of this? Because you keep harping on it like it's a thing. i think its just a strong feeling many of us get from how hes handled decisions. clearly theres no proof, or definitive statements. st dougs demeanor, coupled with some decisions, seem to point that way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This is simple. Either upgrade the left side to elevate the pass OR upgrade the right and elevate the run. I am fine with us doing this to the left because Pears can drive block. sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can you provide multiple, ongoing examples of this? Because you keep harping on it like it's a thing. Starting Seantrell Henderson immediately at LT and then starting the NFL season with two of five players that have rarely even lined up at that position in the NFL (less than two weeks). Going against virtually everyone else's opinion, including his compemporary OL coaches, that continuity in an OL is far less important than getting your five best players out there at once, regardless even of experience at that position. Keeping three rookie OL on the active roster, one of which was a 7th round pick and the other two being absolute disasters a short while into their pro careers. Time after time moving players out of position into ones they have never played. Oh, and listening to him talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Well they had to make some changes. I don't think Urbik is great I just think he's better than Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This is simple. Either upgrade the left side to elevate the pass OR upgrade the right and elevate the run. I am fine with us doing this to the left because Pears can drive block. sort of. Yeah... and Boobie can probably get more traction than CJ could up the middle, plus we will be missing Fred's pass blocking and need all the help we can get up front there considering how much KO will be throwing. It was now or never for Urbik to get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Do you think Urbik breaks out this song come Sunday?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPIVb7Y0QdI Edited October 22, 2014 by Smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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