nucci Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If the Bills come out and play terribly 1st month of the season, Doug will get his wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Given tht this article is is a very dramatic rehashing of events we already know, I'm shocked you guys are falling for it. Â Sleezy journalism, with no sources or quotes. It's just a fairy tale woven unpoetically into a slandering article using the general summary of out preseason. Â TLDR; Nothing to see here, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Â Â I know you have a source, but I don't by it. They have been caught multiple times now having animated discussions, arguments. Sounds like damage control. Not damage control, there are issues. I don't have the details (yet) but this story as it's told isn't accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I know you have a source, but I don't by it. They have been caught multiple times now having animated discussions, arguments. Sounds like damage control. Â And how many of those times when they were 'caught' do you think Marrone was pissed off about the backup QB situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 A very mature and controlled retort, I must say. Â It's a sign of weak management when they don't respond to that with "Okay..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Except, my typing skills are lacking today. i blame the flu. I also already said I dont care how CJ gets his hards so. there was that... Â I was wondering because either one would have made sense. Hope you feel better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) pretty sure that's not what Marrone said.  jw  also not sure whether Monos was present. Edited September 5, 2014 by john wawrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It's a sign of weak management when they don't respond to that with "Okay..." Â And they just may if the team looks crappy the first few weeks. "Hey Maroon, go have a seat next to Dick over there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 This, by the way, !@#$ing happened when Jordan !@#$ing Palmer was brought in to be the backup. Â You guys think Marrone was going too far to be pissed about that?? Â So first it means nothing, now it's "Marrone has every right to be upset." When he gets fired week 4, you'll say, "it's not so bad, Russ had every reason to can him, nothing to fear!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qblax16 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Beginning of the end... Â Beginning of the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I have to wonder if the "Saint Doug" wasn't just a bad joke instead of something he actually refers to himself as. Â Not a very professional display by all involved, but in most curious to understand the issue between Marrone and Monos. Â Edited September 5, 2014 by Joe Miner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 And how many of those times when they were 'caught' do you think Marrone was pissed off about the backup QB situation? Â Serious questions: Do you believe the coach has a right to get on the FO for not getting him the players he wants, as well as the FO getting on Marrone for not evaluating/playing players properly? Or do you think they should all shut them hell up and do their individual jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Given tht this article is is a very dramatic rehashing of events we already know, I'm shocked you guys are falling for it. Â Sleezy journalism, with no sources or quotes. It's just a fairy tale woven unpoetically into a slandering article using the general summary of out preseason. Â TLDR; Nothing to see here, move along. Â Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. How could there NOT be tension within a multi-million dollar business with a long track record of mediocrity, tremendous competitive pressure and ownership questions thrown on top of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Again... I cannot believe how many of you are taking this article to heart. There are absolutely no sources. It's simply using all the rumors we've bad this offseason and putting it into one doom and gloom piece. Â This was written as a way to get clicks for ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Don't you guys love the timing of this article? Â LaCanfora probably sat on this, and released it 3 days before our first game of the season. Thanks for that. Â That too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I don't have the details (at this point anyways). There is tension though. Â I've heard similar reports, albeit from a very different source most likely. Â I bumped ino someone who has been a long time Bills employee and struck up a conversation. Without getting into specifics, this individual interacts with the team and coaches on a daily basis. He shared a bunch of things, including how sad everyone was when Gailey was fired, if for no other reason than the guy was a class act. Â The one thing that really stood out though, was his insitence that over the last twenty years, he's never seen a more tense, stressed out group of players and coaches. Said it was palpable. Â edit: stojany lap top Edited September 5, 2014 by yall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 pretty sure that's not what Marrone said.  jw  also not sure whether Monos was present. I'm sure some here are going to call your "slant" damage control… Thanks, JW, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 This doesn't look like good chemistry like they have in Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 pretty sure that's not what Marrone said.  jw  also not sure whether Monos was present. So besides that it's all true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The one thing that really stood out though, was his insitence tt over the last twenty years, he's never seen a more tense, stressed out group of players and coaches. Said it was palpable. If true, that's sad. I'm sure they are feeling the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Not a very professional display by all involved, but in most curious to understand the issue between Marrone and Monos. Â LaCanfora is professional though, right? Â Believe what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Beginning of the end... Â Beginning of the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Don't you guys love the timing of this article? Â LaCanfora probably sat on this, and released it 3 days before our first game of the season. Thanks for that. Â It's a three week old incident, but hard to blame him for wanting to maximize the buzz with the opener on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well, Brandon went to lengths to say they'd hired someone from the Parcells coaching line even though Marrone never worked for the Tuna. But maybe, in an indirect way, they did get a more short-tempered, less proven version. Â The report about the coaches wanting to to fire the training staff in February make more sense now. This has been boiling for months and isn't anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Again... I cannot believe how many of you are taking this article to heart. There are absolutely no sources. It's simply using all the rumors we've bad this offseason and putting it into one doom and gloom piece. Â This was written as a way to get clicks for ads. Â This might be a fair point except for the fact that just a few weeks ago there were reports from the media that they witnessed a verbal altercation on the practice field between Marrone, Whaley and Brandon. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that the tension still remains and is continuing behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014  I'm sure some here are going to call your "slant" damage control… Thanks, JW, seriously.  Wawrow's a reporter, not a Bills employee. No offense to Kirby, but I was hesitant to believe a Bills employee when it comes to PR. Wawrow holds more weight in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I was just told "don't believe what you read. There is some tension but this story isn't accurate." I trust Kirby's source. He/she has always been spot on. BTW if you want tension look at the SF 49ers with Harbaugh and Baalke. Edited September 5, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Wasn't LaCanfora also the guy who said they'd be trading Spiller? Â I'm not disputing there is tension at OBD but look at your sources, guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well, Brandon went to lengths to say they'd hired someone from the Parcells coaching line even though Marrone never worked for the Tuna. But maybe, in an indirect way, they did get a more short-tempered, less proven version. Â The report about the coaches wanting to to fire the training staff in February make more sense now. This has been boiling for months and isn't anything new. Â Parcells----->Payton----->Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 So first it means nothing, now it's "Marrone has every right to be upset." When he gets fired week 4, you'll say, "it's not so bad, Russ had every reason to can him, nothing to fear!" Â La Confora isn't talking about the same so-called altercation (funny, only one of the reporters present for that one came up with a report, too). The one Rodak tweeted about was on the practice field in front of players. So no, it meant nothing. Â Why don't you tell me why we should be worried about this. Â Serious questions: Do you believe the coach has a right to get on the FO for not getting him the players he wants, as well as the FO getting on Marrone for not evaluating/playing players properly? Or do you think they should all shut them hell up and do their individual jobs? Â Both. Ha! Â It's a tricky situation to be in when your roster has been gutted and rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 "The front office has also bristled at how certain players are being used, sources said, believing that tackle Cyrus Kouandjio, this year's second-round pick, warranted more of a long look this simmer, unhappy that emerging receiver Robert Woods was benched at times and also at odds over guard Kraig Urbik, who the personnel side believes is a quality guard (he just received a contract extension a few years back) but who Marrone has soured on (the team explored trades for Urbik before roster cuts, league sources said)." Â Marrone is right, you have to let your coach coach, or you fire him. Player personnel directors can't tell coaches who should play. BTW, I am generally not a Marrone fan, but he is right in this incident. Agree 100% I think all these front office a holes are feeling the pressure as another season is here and they have no confidence whatsoever. Now they are panicking and have resorted to telling Marrone how to coach and who to play. Ask Jerry Jones how well the front office mettling in football affairs works out. Let Saint Doug do his job or "go ahead and fire me then" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Wasn't LaCanfora also the guy who said they'd be trading Spiller? Â I'm not disputing there is tension at OBD but look at your sources, guys... Â It wouldn't surprise me if Spiller was on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Great camp for kwonjoe one coach calls him a statue and the head coach would rather be fired than play him more in preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FireChan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Â Â La Confora isn't talking about the same so-called altercation (funny, only one of the reporters present for that one came up with a report, too). The one Rodak tweeted about was on the practice field in front of players. So no, it meant nothing. Â Why don't you tell me why we should be worried about this. Â Â Â Both. Ha! Â It's a tricky situation to be in when your roster has been gutted and rebuilt. Â Name one non winning season coach that got into multiple reported arguments with his GM/President and didn't get fired. Â Unless you think Marrone getting canned is a good thing. Â Also, can we take a step back a recognize the HUGE Bills bias towards this story? If this was the Jets or Phins, we'd be calling them dumpster fires, and laughing our way into the season. Edited September 5, 2014 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I'm sure some here are going to call your "slant" damage control… Thanks, JW, seriously.  i'm not saying that something didn't happen, or that words were exchanged. i'm told that the word "fired" was never used. it was something else.  jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) I trust Kirby's source. He/she has always been spot on.  BTW if you want tension look at the SF 49ers with Harbaugh and Baalke.  This.   Also, I would trade Marrone for Harbaugh in a second  CBF Edited September 5, 2014 by Canadian Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 It's a three week old incident, but hard to blame him for wanting to maximize the buzz with the opener on the horizon. Â it's not three weeks old. it happened last week. Â jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Parcells----->Payton----->Marrone  I should have said the front office asked Parcells to say something about hiring DM. BP refused because he'd never had him on staff. It was clearly a PR maneuver to gin up support for the hiring.  My point is, the Bills got a guy, who like Parcells, doesn't hold back. Bills coaches in recent years have toed the company line more often than not when the team struggled on the field. DM isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 i hope it lights a fire under their asses. we've quietly accepted mediocrity for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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