ganesh Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Fitz will be a ok back up, time to move on. FO made a mistake with his big contract, maybe Mario also, we'll wait and see. Fitz was 7-20 after he signed the contract. The bad part was that Nix gave him a 60M contract (21M guaranteed) after going 5-2....So foolhardy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 With Fitzy gone who are we gonna blame for all of our problems now? Who's to blame for the 600 yard games on D? I am sure the loss of Levitre will account for the next time we allow another team to run 300 yards down our throat. Buddy Nix Strangely, despite being the right hand man of the whipping boy, the same crowd that gets off on trashing Nix thinks Jesus H. Whaley will be our savior. not a fan of his either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Fitz was 7-20 after he signed the contract. The bad part was that Nix gave him a 60M contract (21M guaranteed) after going 5-2....So foolhardy! they pull that crap all the time, did same with jauron. Comes from being cheap, they panick and think they can get an "A" player or coach for "B" money. 5 wins by mid season seems to be the magic number for someone to get wildly overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 So far Nix seems to be the front runner. The only real knock on him is his failure to find a franchise QB, which is a significant indictment of him as that is the most important position on the field. REALLY???? That has been the only knock?? The real irony here is that this teams' problem the last two years has been the lack of any hint of a Defense! But yes, letting one of your most reliable O-lineman walk, releasing veteran QB, that for all his inconstancies, still put you in position to win games, oh, and add to that, the total absence of a WR core now. Yep! Blow-up the offense, that's been our only problem all along. That's the only knock on him. Marrone. Marrone = Greg Williams 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 BRANDON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Tarvaris Jackson. He's an awful qb we'll all realize that soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 they pull that crap all the time, did same with jauron. Comes from being cheap, they panick and think they can get an "A" player or coach for "B" money. 5 wins by mid season seems to be the magic number for someone to get wildly overpaid Its a good thing nobody on this board wasn't demanding Fitz get signed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Nice swipe at Tavaris on way out saying looking at the current roster there was no way he (Fitz) wasn't going to be the starter next year. Well he's not really wrong. Tarvaris Jackson is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 With the first pick in the 2014 NFL draft the Buffalo Bills select...Hmmm?... the card says they would like to defer to 2015 because there still isn't any QB worth the first pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 With Fitzy gone who are we gonna blame for all of our problems now? Who's to blame for the 600 yard games on D? I am sure the loss of Levitre will account for the next time we allow another team to run 300 yards down our throat. 1. Mario 2. Sheppard 3. Nix Not necessarily in that order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 So far Nix seems to be the front runner. The only real knock on him is his failure to find a franchise QB, which is a significant indictment of him as that is the most important position on the field. However despite doing a decent, not good but decent, job of drafting, & a good job of bringing in & retaining quality FAs, it's en vogue amongst Bills fans to label him an incompetent POS. He's been in charge for three years. Who are the players who are the foundation of the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Christ Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww- poor babies we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 How is everyone forgetting TJ Graham? Or is he merely an extension of the Nix-whipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I saw top of the list would be sentimental Fitz backers followed by Aaron Williams and then good ole buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Didn't realize Fitz had 83 TDs since he got here. More than I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 thinking kyle williams is my dark horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 ralph, buddy & russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Whomever gives us reason to whip. It's a fluid thing with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 thinking kyle williams is my dark horse I could definitely see Bills fan turning on him really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 He's been in charge for three years. Who are the players who are the foundation of the team? On offense: Spiller, SJ, FJ, Wood, Glenn, Urbik, Chandler. On defense: Mario, KW, Dareus, Byrd, Gilmore. A lot of positions are still up in the air, & the jury is still out on a few (Searcy, Bradham, Brooks, etc.), but that's a pretty decent core to build around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Didn't realize Fitz had 83 TDs since he got here. More than I thought The guy was productive but ultimately not good enough. I love every thing he brought to the table and I will miss him. He got every ounce out of his physical ability and I have nothing but respect for him. I wish him the best and that PAts game will always be a great memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 This has already been established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 On to Geno Smith or EJ. Might even go after a second QB if Nassib is still available later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Fitz would do ok with a great defence team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Reality check - there is no stud QB coming out in the draft and if the Bills are counting on a first round QB, he'll almost certainly be a project and still not be as capable as Fitzpatrick was for at least a couple of years. Fitz may not have had the best arm, but he could read defenses and had the respect of his teammates. It's not as if he had top tier weapons to work with in the passing game either. Oh, and BTW - the Bills still have a pathetic defense too. About the only hope the Bills will have is if they handle it the way they did when Joe Ferguson started as a rookie - hope for success on offense by handing the ball off in a run based ball control offense. If the Bills find themselves getting pummeled on defense and playing catchup, it's going to be a looong season for both the fans and the QB. If the Bills plan is to start a rookie QB, it'll be a recipe for disaster if his confidence is shattered. I don't think Fitz was the answer, but for now, the prospects appear to be a journeyman QB and a rookie. The Bills are in perpetual rebuilding mode, and as the years go by, they lose the talent they've previously drafted and developed. It never ends. This team is a joke. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 He's on a short leash with me already. If we come out of the chute losing, it's game on. ^ What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Well he's not really wrong. Tarvaris Jackson is awful Presumably they sat in meetings together for an entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 If we had a good defence and OL, a fair qb could do it. We have a long way to go at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 He's on a short leash with me already. If we come out of the chute losing, it's game on. Well, if that's your taste test then its game on now. You're looking at at least 9 new starters on both sides of the ball including a rookie qb in a year said to be bad for qbs (fa and rookie) . Take a look at this roster. It might beable to split with jets, but its going to crushed by the pats and fins. That's 5 losses right there. No way they win more than 3 of the other 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Well, if that's your taste test then its game on now. You're looking at at least 9 new starters on both sides of the ball including a rookie qb in a year said to be bad for qbs (fa and rookie) . Take a look at this roster. It might beable to split with jets, but its going to crushed by the pats and fins. That's 5 losses right there. No way they win more than 3 of the other 10 games. I hear where you're coming from, but remember last season when we were going to "steamroll" the Jets, Fins and (laughably) the Patriots after our big offseason? Everyone anointed us playoff-bound and optimism was everywhere. You'll see the same thing projected for Miami and a lot of other big spenders this offseason. One Week One rolls around, the projections are all worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 On offense: Spiller, SJ, FJ, Wood, Glenn, Urbik, Chandler. SJ, FJ, & Wood precede Nix. Chandler likely won't be around. Urbik is a decent JAG. On defense: Mario, KW, Dareus, Byrd, Gilmore. Kyle & Byrd precede Nix. The jury is still out on Dareus & Gilmore. A lot of positions are still up in the air, & the jury is still out on a few (Searcy, Bradham, Brooks, etc.), but that's a pretty decent core to build around It's not a decent core to build on, as out of the players you mention, during Nix's tenure only Spiller could be considered one of the top talents at his position. The other guys are decent, but not what I would call difference makers. His big time FA additions failed to make a difference so far, and the worry is that by the time the roster is rebuilt AGAIN, Mario's contract will be a noose wrapped around cement shoes. Sure, there are ample bash Buddy threads out there. But to say that he doesn't deserve the beatings is ignoring his poor record. He still lives off his first press conference where Bills trotted out a football guy from central casting, because the guy he replaced wasn't a true football guy and what the bills needed was a football veteran (whatever that means). Never mind that under the management of the non-football guy as GM, Bills drafted and brought in better football players and had a better record than under the tenure of the guy from central casting. Maybe I'm just extra ornery because the Deadspin prank reinforced the fear that Buddy is still calling a lot of the personnel decisions at OBD. Why? I haven't a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 With Fitzy gone who are we gonna blame for all of our problems now? Who's to blame for the 600 yard games on D? I am sure the loss of Levitre will account for the next time we allow another team to run 300 yards down our throat. Fitz is a nice guy but a bad QB, not close to NFLstarting caliber. Get over it. The Bills have sucked for 12 or 13 years, they are gonna really suck this year and probably a few years after that, so might as well get a rookie in and get him his starts. Until Nix is gone, this team isn't going anywhere but further down, like they have since he got here on his "3 year plan." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 russ is cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) So far Nix seems to be the front runner. The only real knock on him is his failure to find a franchise QB, which is a significant indictment of him as that is the most important position on the field. However despite doing a decent, not good but decent, job of drafting, & a good job of bringing in & retaining quality FAs, it's en vogue amongst Bills fans to label him an incompetent POS. I love irony Well then, two thirds of the teams in the league are under the same indictment. And most of the teams with franchise QBs really had to suck before getting them so those GMs were under indictment, too. GO BILLS!!! Edited March 13, 2013 by K-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Next QB to step up... I'm guessing TJ will be the brunt this season. In the mean time, ole catfisher is gonna get reamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Marcell and K. Williams. If we continue to get run on, they are the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I thought Aaron Williams had already taken over that role. I'm pretty sure I read it was his fault the Bills' QB turned the ball over more than any player in the leauge not named Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 With Fitzy gone who are we gonna blame for all of our problems now? Who's to blame for the 600 yard games on D? I am sure the loss of Levitre will account for the next time we allow another team to run 300 yards down our throat. Tom Brady banked win after win after win with a bad defense... your short rant is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Tom Brady banked win after win after win with a bad defense... your short rant is meaningless. (1) good point. (2) awesome avitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It's not a decent core to build on, as out of the players you mention, during Nix's tenure only Spiller could be considered one of the top talents at his position. The other guys are decent, but not what I would call difference makers. His big time FA additions failed to make a difference so far, and the worry is that by the time the roster is rebuilt AGAIN, Mario's contract will be a noose wrapped around cement shoes. Sure, there are ample bash Buddy threads out there. But to say that he doesn't deserve the beatings is ignoring his poor record. He still lives off his first press conference where Bills trotted out a football guy from central casting, because the guy he replaced wasn't a true football guy and what the bills needed was a football veteran (whatever that means). Never mind that under the management of the non-football guy as GM, Bills drafted and brought in better football players and had a better record than under the tenure of the guy from central casting. Maybe I'm just extra ornery because the Deadspin prank reinforced the fear that Buddy is still calling a lot of the personnel decisions at OBD. Why? I haven't a clue. I think it is a decent core. Even the best teams aren't stacked with stars at every position. When you switch coaches & philosophies a fair amount of turnover is to be expected. I suspect we'll see several holes filled with other team's cuts that will fill out the roster nicely so as to fit the new coach's vision. The team wasn't devoid of talent last year, & outside of Levitre I see no significant losses. I don't expect the Bills to tear it up this season, but if Marrone is any good they should be set up nicely to make a run the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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