Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I hate that whole "defenseless receiver" crap. As long as it's not spearing, or a shot to the head region, it's all part of the game...IMHO. I'm really excited about this kid...special teams monster and likely a contributing member to our LB corps. Hopefully a future starter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGYwJaqIzLU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Wow that was clean. Horrible officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Wow. Looked like the type of pass Fitz would throw. -Probably with the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Perfect hit, typical over zealous refs who think all big hits are penalties. To all players in the league; hitting is now illegal in the NFL. Regards, Emperor Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Certainly a shame to see a technically solid, clean hit like that penalized. No contact with the helmet, just shoulder to chest. By the way, I watch ACC football regularly, and the officiating has to be the worst in college football. These guys are atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missthe kgun Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Beautiful Hit!!! I believe this would have been reviewed in the NFL and corrected to a No call. He used all shoulder and did not launch himself!!! I'm just glad we're drafting people like this again! Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Terrible officiating and terrible commentating. Those guys should be in politics, talk about reversing yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 It's OK. I'll take him on my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I like how the announcers are going off on him before even seeing the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 To quote Charlton Heston...'The Pussification of America'. Oh and to caption that video.. 'Tell Ronnie you just got knocked the F... Out!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Certainly a shame to see a technically solid, clean hit like that penalized. No contact with the helmet, just shoulder to chest. By the way, I watch ACC football regularly, and the officiating has to be the worst in college football. These guys are atrocious. Completely agreed. And not just because i'm an FSU fan. there have been plenty of other ACC games where the officials make you shake your head in disbelief. Hell, we've gotten calls going our way that i feel dirty for accepting the penalty. The ACC officials are absolute garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Can someone please post the video link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The way the QB stared down the reciever for the entire play, then rolled to his right and threw it back accross his body (a big no no) I think the QB should have been penalized for endangering his reciever. In fact they should do away with defenseless recieve BS altogether and start penalizing the QBs for endangering the reciever. Plus to throw the kid out when he didnt complain or moan after a total bogus call is even worse. At least the Bills added a very level headed kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Forget about the officiating, this kid is strong. Watch the slow replay, the opposing player bounces off of him and crumples up...He didn't so much as lean from that hit, just stood there like he batted down a fly. A lot of those big hits can be rough on both players, but for him it was like the other player wasn't even there... Put one of those on Brady please... Edited May 9, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The good news is that he'll be making those hits for us from now on. Can't wait to see him lay one on Welker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffmonster Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The good news is that he'll be making those hits for us from now on. Can't wait to see him lay one on Welker. Agreed, but as we've seen last year you can't hit Welker. He is so small and ducks into hits that it will always be penalty on the defensive player. Can't remember who it was (Byrd maybe) who got a penalty last year for tackling Welker cleanly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I hate that whole "defenseless receiver" crap. As long as it's not spearing, or a shot to the head region, it's all part of the game...IMHO. I'm really excited about this kid...special teams monster and likely a contributing member to our LB corps. Hopefully a future starter. youtube.com/watch?v=MGYwJaqIzLU You do reallize that you essentially just said "I hate defenseless receiver rules, except when it's properly called" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 You do reallize that you essentially just said "I hate defenseless receiver rules, except when it's properly called" Spearing and hits to the head are always penalties... Unfortunately if a WR is hit hard (even shoulder to shoulder) while in the air or going for a catch, the "defenseless receiver" rule is called, I think that is what he is pointing out. Basically you either have to let the receiver catch the ball or take a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Great hit and I love the Sir in front of his name. He sounds like an English action hero. The penalty was basically because the guy got hurt. It sucks because no one loves big hits more than me but after hearing stories like Seau, the league is probably right in their crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Link? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) I think Bradham is my favorite of all the draft picks. Seems like he was guilty of being too good and strong on that play. I don't see what else he could've done. He was the slower moving object in that collision. The WR was the one with all the speed. His QB lead him into a brick wall. Is Bradham supposed to avoid making a legal hit because the WR is so weak and feable? If that were Vernon Davis making the catch, would there still be a flag? Doubt it. Edited May 9, 2012 by mountainwampus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin' Rob Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Wow. Looked like the type of pass Fitz would throw. -Probably with the same result. So I will resist the urge to tell you to go out and close the garage, and start the car and instead ask you a simple question; Why take a sniper shot at our QB? Even if you are right(you are not)Why take this shot on a thread that has nothing to do with him? I took the semester off of tbd because of peeps like you. Peeps who refuse to let facts get in the way of their opinion. Fact: Buddy and Chan are not responsible for the failures of the first decade of this millennium. Fiction: same old..... anything, see above fact. Fact:When the line, the wr's and most importantly the QB were all healthy, the Bills were very competitive with a crappy D-line in 2011. Fiction: we were worse than under Jauron because our record was not as good. Any one with eyeballs knows we have a better team now. Go watch foxnews if you want to indulge in make believe and negativity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Found the video...WOW what a hit! 100% not his fault. QB's should not put their WR in that type of position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Spearing and hits to the head are always penalties... Unfortunately if a WR is hit hard (even shoulder to shoulder) while in the air or going for a catch, the "defenseless receiver" rule is called, I think that is what he is pointing out. Basically you either have to let the receiver catch the ball or take a penalty. hits to the head are not always penalties. in fact every lineman gets hit, and many tackles are helmet to helmet. you cant do it when a player is defenseless (ie, in most cases cant protect themselves because their job requires them to take eyes off the player coming to take their head off). the phrase helmet to helmet has really confused A LOT of people that watch football. when called right, its not a bad rule, as the original poster referenced. unfortunately it sticks out when called wrong (shoulder to shoulder as you reference). you can light a guy up, but refs are supposed to throw the flag if they think the helmets hit - theyve been instructed to err on the side of caution, and i think that instruction is the real issue most people have, without realizing it. Edited May 9, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booger Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 My question is: "How did this guy not get drafted higher?" He looks like the prototypical LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 My question is: "How did this guy not get drafted higher?" He looks like the prototypical LB Maybe Ramius can back this up but I have a really good friend who is a huge FSU fan. He says NB was the best LB on a team that was a top 10 defense most of the year. He said his biggest issue who is get out of position and plays a little wild at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Odd uniform for a cricket batsman, but sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 At first glance it looked like he massacred the guy. The receiver was down and out. The announcers were not out of line saying what they said, and they were not afraid to change their stance once they saw the replay. I loved it when the crowd saw the replay and went nuts. Also, the coach pointing at the scoreboard and screaming at the ref. But again the refs refuse to look up at reality, so they threw him out of the game. Hello Gronk? Hello? Can you hear me? No that was not a truck. That was Nigel. Nigel from Spinal Tap. That hit was an eleven. Yeah, it was one louder. Hold on, here comes your mommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 My question is: "How did this guy not get drafted higher?" He looks like the prototypical LB Supposedly his instincts are not great, and he's better in a "straight line" than side to side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Certainly a shame to see a technically solid, clean hit like that penalized. No contact with the helmet, just shoulder to chest. By the way, I watch ACC football regularly, and the officiating has to be the worst in college football. These guys are atrocious. Completely agreed. And not just because i'm an FSU fan. there have been plenty of other ACC games where the officials make you shake your head in disbelief. Hell, we've gotten calls going our way that i feel dirty for accepting the penalty. The ACC officials are absolute garbage. I don't watch too much acc football (only the national games) so I won't necessarily disagree but.... In my experience the SEC rules over all when it comes to bad officiating. Their streak of 6 straight championships is slightly tainted in my book. It seems whatever team is the top team in the conference (and one with the best shot of getting in the "nc" game) gets many calls to keep them undefeated and in the hunt. I can think of several calls for florida and bama (their first "championship") that were iffy to say the least. I do remember the ACC doing something along the same lines when FSU had that ridiculous streak when they enetered the ACC so I'm sure it continues to this day but the SEC def stands out to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 great hit to bad its wasnt hockey there would of been a huge brawl after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Imagine that hit on Wes Welker or Gronk. That would send a message. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Lol. The dude never even left his feet. It reminds me of movies when you watch some 150lb guy run around a corner and bump into Bubba Smith and fall to the ground or something. What a joke. Looked like the refs were being paid off to take out the leading tackler to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Lol. The dude never even left his feet. It reminds me of movies when you watch some 150lb guy run around a corner and bump into Bubba Smith and fall to the ground or something. What a joke. Looked like the refs were being paid off to take out the leading tackler to me. luckily they waited til 2 mins left in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe Ramius can back this up but I have a really good friend who is a huge FSU fan. He says NB was the best LB on a team that was a top 10 defense most of the year. He said his biggest issue who is get out of position and plays a little wild at times. Yup. that's his biggest weakness is over-agressiveness. He flies around all the time, lots of times looking for the kill shot. (Frankly, our D could use some attitude like that). Because of that, he can find himself over pursuing of out of position. And he's taken a few personal fouls for late hits where he went in to deliver the big hit instead of pulling up at the last second. But nothing malicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 To quote Charlton Heston...'The Pussification of America'. Oh and to caption that video.. 'Tell Ronnie you just got knocked the F... Out!' so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 luckily they waited til 2 mins left in the game Oh. Well I didn't know that. YouTube sucks on my 2nd gen iPhone. Can't see that kind of detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 whoa....memo to AFC East Receivers...new sheriff in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Go watch foxnews if you want to indulge in make believe and negativity. ROTFLMAO! You could have also said, go turn on your radio and listen to Rush, too. Just as good! Imagine that hit on Wes Welker or Gronk. That would send a message. PTR Somehow I don't think the result would have been quite the same if it had been Gronk, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Imagine that hit on Wes Welker or Gronk. That would send a message. PTR I could imagine it...but he woulda wiffed on Welker(short guy eyes in the back of his head) and Gronk wouldn't have budged an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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