Gailey Gives Maybin the Business

[Cash]

It's nice to see some refreshing doses of reality from the Bills in the last few weeks, even if there's still nothing refreshing about their play. At least Gailey seems in touch with reality. Maybin never does anything positive even when he gets on the field. That just can't be ignored.

 

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/10/11/lb-update/

 

When Gailey was asked for an update in Aaron Maybin’s progress, since he wasn’t mentioned along with Antonio Coleman and Arthur Moats, the Bills head coach didn’t pull punches.

 

“Aaron is struggling right now,” said Gailey. ”He really is. He’s struggling to get on the field and when he gets his opportunities he’s struggling to make plays. We’ve got to continue to work with him to see how he develops.”

 

Maybin, who unofficially got two defensive snaps did not even appear on special teams Sunday.

 

“He’s struggling making plays period right now,” said Gailey. ”That’s hard for him. It’s hard for us. It’s hard for everybody. He’s just got to step up his game when he gets opportunities and make things happen.”

Edited October 11, 2010 by Cash

[BuffaloBill]

It's nice to see some refreshing doses of reality from the Bills in the last few weeks, even if there's still nothing refreshing about their play. At least Gailey seems in touch with reality. Maybin never does anything positive even when he gets on the field. That just can't be ignored.

 

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2010/10/11/lb-update/

 

This is one reason why I have hope that Gailey and Nix might just get this thing turned around. Nobody is untouchable and nobody will remain on the roster if they do not step it up. Sad to sayu but Maybin has all of the markings of a bust. If he can't get on the field with this defense in its sorry state what where would he be with real talent?

[GR8PRKN]

I understand that he is not in there on run downs, and last week any downs but 2. But the fact that he cannot get in on special teams is beyond me....

[Dr. Trooth]

Nah.... givin him the business would be holding him down and smacking him like Marty Lyons did to Jim Kelly

[flmike]

Ya gotta feel for Gailey. Nix and Wilson are probably riding him to see if he can get the kid fixed, considering he was a 1st rounder. Lots of money and face involved here. One has to wonder who made the call to draft him. Wilson was right in his statement that he bears a lot of responsibility. If he can stay out the draft discussions, we might get this thing fixed, but it looks like he is already tipping the team's hand on what they want. Frankly I'd prefer drafting a LB, OT, or WR before a QB. You can sign a reasonably good journeyman QB for year or two until you build the lines and defense. We are scoring points. We just can't stop anyone. Oh where have you gone Mr Cottrell?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

How about a position change? The guy has the body to play TE. They need to think creatively here; you don't just dump a top-10 pick like that.

[bladiebla]

How about a position change? The guy has the body to play TE. They need to think creatively here; you don't just dump a top-10 pick like that.

 

He'd need to accept a reworked contract for that switch I'd say...

[tonyd19]

Translation to Gailey's comments.

 

Maybin is not good enought to play in this league. He is so bad, that he is not good enough to be a special teams player in this league right now. If he was not a first round pick he surely would have been cut by now. Hopefully, due to is age he will wise up, work much harder and get stronger so he may be able to contribute something by 2011. If not, his career will probably be over.

[billsfan714]

You should read the chat from the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle guys, they say beyond Maybin sucking, he also has no football instincts. Those guys would cut him. Maybin better take this criticism to heart, get stronger in the office season and come in with Cameron Wake intensity or this guy will be pumping gas next fall. Aaron you wont get invited to all the good parties when your playing for Winnipeg.

[spartacus]

Translation to Gailey's comments.

 

Maybin is not good enought to play in this league. He is so bad, that he is not good enough to be  a special teams player in this league right now. If he was not a first round pick he surely would have been cut by now. Hopefully, due to is age he will wise up, work much harder and get stronger so he may be able to contribute something by 2011. If not, his career will probably be over.

 

Buddy and Modrak sure did a good job evaluating with Maybin.

 

 

Now you know why Buddy decided to use 2010 as a big pre-season audition, since he can't evaluate talent on film at his age

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[marauderswr80]

when he was lined up against Monroe he tried to bullrush him and monroe didn't move an inch. I know monroe is a beast but, maybin was just over matched when he was in there.

[13player]

Gaily really meant to say, Maybin is a boob!!

[KD in CA]

Maybin never does anything positive even when he gets on the field.

 

That's a bingo.

[CodeMonkey]

It's nice to see some refreshing doses of reality from the Bills in the last few weeks,

Seems only fair. The Bills have been given strong doses of reality the last 5 weeks as well.

[tonyd19]

Buddy and Modrak sure did a good job evaluating with Maybin.

 

 

Now you know why Buddy decided to use 2010 as a big pre-season audition, since he can't evaluate talent on film at his age

 

Buddy wasn't behind the Maybin pick, Jauron was. Actually, Maybin is everything that Buddy has said he doesn't look for in talent. One year wonder guy, small and speedy. He likes big physical guys on the line of scrimmage.

 

I agree with you on Modrak though....that guy needs to go.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

He looks like a boy playing in a man's game. Maybe some HGH in the offseason will help?

[spartacus]

Buddy wasn't behind the Maybin pick, Jauron was. Actually, Maybin is everything that Buddy has said he doesn't look for in talent. One year wonder guy, small and speedy. He likes big physical guys on the line of scrimmage.

 

I agree with you on Modrak though....that guy needs to go.

 

so the Director of College Scouting and the National Scout had nothing to do with the 1st pick

 

 

It was all Dick's fault

 

Sorry - not buying the Bills spin on all of the bad picks

 

 

 

 

 

[Thoner7]

Can I say I told you so yet, or do I have to wait another year.

 

he was a bust on draft day and anyone with a clue could see it from a mile away.

 

He should be cut and every FO personell who didnt disagree with his selection profoundly should help him carry his gear, as they should be let go too.

Edited October 12, 2010 by Thoner7

[Big Turk]

I understand that he is not in there on run downs, and last week any downs but 2. But the fact that he cannot get in on special teams is beyond me....

 

With the Bills allowing 200+ yards rushing as a formality every game, how could Maybin make it any worse?

[dave mcbride]

Ya gotta feel for Gailey. Nix and Wilson are probably riding him to see if he can get the kid fixed, considering he was a 1st rounder. Lots of money and face involved here. One has to wonder who made the call to draft him. Wilson was right in his statement that he bears a lot of responsibility. If he can stay out the draft discussions, we might get this thing fixed, but it looks like he is already tipping the team's hand on what they want. Frankly I'd prefer drafting a LB, OT, or WR before a QB. You can sign a reasonably good journeyman QB for year or two until you build the lines and defense. We are scoring points. We just can't stop anyone. Oh where have you gone Mr Cottrell?

Disagree. Gailey will rightfully get a pass on Maybin, because I'm betting that both Nix and Wilson know that he sucks. FWIW, I've gotta hand it to Pro Football Weekly. In July 09, they had a quote in either Audibles or Whispers from "someone close to the Bills" (or something like that) who said that based upon minicamp, Maybin was NOT the guy they thought they had drafted, and that they were extremely worried about him. Turns out he was right. Whoever it was for the Bills who spoke to PFW (Nix? Modrak? Neither wanted to draft him), they accurately predicted that Maybin is not a starting-caliber NFL player. Whether he's a $5 million per year special teams maven, time will tell.

Edited October 12, 2010 by dave mcbride

[RyanC883]

How about a position change? The guy has the body to play TE. They need to think creatively here; you don't just dump a top-10 pick like that.

 

I like the idea. TE or Safety. Guy is athletic, just not a DL or LB.

[Sisyphean Bills]

Ya gotta feel for Gailey. Nix and Wilson are probably riding him to see if he can get the kid fixed, considering he was a 1st rounder. Lots of money and face involved here. One has to wonder who made the call to draft him. Wilson was right in his statement that he bears a lot of responsibility. If he can stay out the draft discussions, we might get this thing fixed, but it looks like he is already tipping the team's hand on what they want. Frankly I'd prefer drafting a LB, OT, or WR before a QB. You can sign a reasonably good journeyman QB for year or two until you build the lines and defense. We are scoring points. We just can't stop anyone. Oh where have you gone Mr Cottrell?

If the plan is to roll out for 3 years to get back to respectability, then there is no need to force the drafting of the next David Carr in year 1 when the next Peyton Manning may be coming out in year 2 or 3. Who wants another ride on a JP Losman crash-and-burn only to see another Aaron Rodgers lead elsewhere?

 

I like the idea. TE or Safety. Guy is athletic, just not a DL or LB.

The guy has no football instincts. Let some other franchise waste time and money training him to be a ballerina.

[The Big Cat]

That's a bingo.

 

You just say bingo.

[mary owen]

I like the idea. TE or Safety. Guy is athletic, just not a DL or LB.

 

 

You both are kidding right? The TE's we have on this team are not cutting it and it's been their craft through college and now the pros. So what makes you think Arrant Maybe might make a good TE? His "body, size, and athleticism"? What in the Wide World of Sports are some of you thinking?

 

To be a TE, you need to be able to run routes, shed db's and lb's, have good hands (you know, for catching and stuff), block oncoming defenders (the guy can't even get around slower offensive linemen!), and be unselfish enough to stick your nose in and do some real dirty work.

 

This is one first round draft pick you cut your losses with. Trade him for ANYTHING. I'm sure someone will take a shot if they only had to part with some future picks.....either that, or involve him in a package deal. A first round pick that can't even make ST's? He spends most of his time on the bench, what good is he doing you anyway?

 

That would be a huge statement for a new regime looking to infuse their identity into their team.

Edited October 12, 2010 by Arrogant Bastard

[Niagara Bill]

Maybin is just playing along until the Bills cut him so he can keep his money. He has never been a player. He has taken lessons from his agent and fellow Penn alum, Arrington

Who is stupid, Maybin or Ralph.

I wonder when Overdorf is going to cut him like he did Walker and others.

[nucci]

How about a position change? The guy has the body to play TE. They need to think creatively here; you don't just dump a top-10 pick like that.

Even if he shouldn't have been picked that early? He is young and may need more time but he has got to show something.

[BuffaloBillsMagic1]

Even if he shouldn't have been picked that early? He is young and may need more time but he has got to show something.

If we reelase him the Jets will sign the guy, work with him in pass rushing situations and he will wind up being a pass rush specialist like Jason Taylor under Rex Ryan and we will look like idiots again.

[doro]

It seems everybody in this board enjoy bashing Maybin. The defense gave up over 200 yards rushing when he was not playing. You can't blame that on him. The problem is this team has no play makers and coaches. Gaily was fired from his lat two jobs and the team he left are currently better off with out him.

[Another Point of View]

Thanks for the obvious Chan

 

WE NOW KNOW THE PROBLEM....he's struggling

[34-78-83]

so the Director of College Scouting and the National Scout had nothing to do with the 1st pick

 

 

It was all Dick's fault

 

Sorry - not buying the Bills spin on all of the bad picks

 

 

 

 

 

 

Buddy only Scouted the South East

and No he was definitely not involved in the Maybin Pick

[Billshank Redemption]

i remember as soon as nix took over he was asked a few questions and he immediately criticized the pick saying he basically was going to be a bust because he was a 1 year wonder. Nix likes guys that have proven themselves 3-4 years and played consistently (phillip rivers)

[DanInUticaTampa]

so the Director of College Scouting and the National Scout had nothing to do with the 1st pick

 

 

It was all Dick's fault

 

Sorry - not buying the Bills spin on all of the bad picks

 

hahahahaha, in your silly world, is penn state located in the south east too? Because those are the players buddy actually scouted. Yeah, that is SOME spin. Especially when Buddy goes on to say that players that are top ten picks should be able to contribute immediatly and shouldn't be projects and linemen should be big and strong over speed, players that are good for more than one year, yeah, maybin has buddy written all over it.

 

Maybe they moved Penn state to the dirty south. But I didn't hear anything. Your bias is just terrible. There are so many things to rag on nix and the bills for and you pick the one thing that doesn't add up.

 

 

 

**Edit**

 

people already brought it up.

Edited October 12, 2010 by DanInUticaTampa

[Sisyphean Bills]

hahahahaha, in your silly world, is penn state located in the south east too? Because those are the players buddy actually scouted. Yeah, that is SOME spin. Especially when Buddy goes on to say that players that are top ten picks should be able to contribute immediatly and shouldn't be projects and linemen should be big and strong over speed, players that are good for more than one year, yeah, maybin has buddy written all over it.

 

Maybe they moved Penn state to the dirty south. But I didn't hear anything. Your bias is just terrible. There are so many things to rag on nix and the bills for and you pick the one thing that doesn't add up.

 

 

 

**Edit**

 

people already brought it up.

Actually, Buddy was National Scout for the Bills and the Assistant GM in San Diego before that. He prefers to scout in the southeast because he has more contacts there (seeing as he's from there), but to say he doesn't scout nor has never scouted a player from some other region of the country is nonsense.

[MDH]

Nobody is untouchable and nobody will remain on the roster if they do not step it up.

 

Other guy's draft picks aren't untouchable. Let's see what happens when it's this regimes high round miss.

[BillsBackersChicago]

I don't necessarily agree with him BEING a tight end, but what about being on the field to shadow and/or COVER tight ends. Everyone talks about how fast he is, and despite Kelsay's best efforts, he has proven himself to not be speedy enough to cover elite NFL tight ends. This might be a perfect fit for him. FOR NOW, Maybin is not strong or skilled enough to get around NFL quality left tackles, but maybe if he lined up across from the tight end, he could get around him. We clearly have an issue covering tight ends as we have gotten smoked by them every game this season. What we need is a super fast bigman who can stand up to the tight end's physicality and take him on when he is blocking for a run play, but is fast enough to be able to stay with him when he comes out to run a pass play.

 

Now, I'm not a football coach, so I know there must be some flaws in my thinking, such as 1. if it is a true run play, how do you get him lined up against a tight end and not just create a weak spot on the line. 2. Do we know he has any coverage skills, despite his apparent physical attributes?

 

Anyways, what do you guys think? Aaron Maybin as our dedicated man to cover or block tight ends whenever they are on the field?

[Section444]

Anyone who watched this bum play in college knew that he wouldn't do well in the NFL.

[ganesh]

You should read the chat from the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle guys, they say beyond Maybin sucking, he also has no football instincts. Those guys would cut him. Maybin better take this criticism to heart, get stronger in the office season and come in with Cameron Wake intensity or this guy will be pumping gas next fall. Aaron you wont get invited to all the good parties when your playing for Winnipeg.

 

He has 20+ Million dollars in the bank for his 2years of service to the Bills. I don't see how this guy will be pumping gas next fall

[billsfan_34]

How about a position change? The guy has the body to play TE. They need to think creatively here; you don't just dump a top-10 pick like that.

Thats not an easy change....creative yes I agree...but to go from DE to LB then to TE is gonna make this guys head explode. TE's have to run routes which he has never done, grasp an offensive concept and block as well. I dont see Aaron Maybin making it past the half way point of this season. He is a goner.

[DDD]

Maybin is just not strong enough to play in the NFL. He's in good shape, you can see the definition in his arms and legs, but he's just genetically wired to be defined, not strong. He gets tossed around like a ragdoll when engaging an offensive lineman. Whoever made the decision to draft this guy should be fired if he hasn't already.

[Sisyphean Bills]

I don't necessarily agree with him BEING a tight end, but what about being on the field to shadow and/or COVER tight ends. Everyone talks about how fast he is, and despite Kelsay's best efforts, he has proven himself to not be speedy enough to cover elite NFL tight ends. This might be a perfect fit for him. FOR NOW, Maybin is not strong or skilled enough to get around NFL quality left tackles, but maybe if he lined up across from the tight end, he could get around him. We clearly have an issue covering tight ends as we have gotten smoked by them every game this season. What we need is a super fast bigman who can stand up to the tight end's physicality and take him on when he is blocking for a run play, but is fast enough to be able to stay with him when he comes out to run a pass play.

 

Now, I'm not a football coach, so I know there must be some flaws in my thinking, such as 1. if it is a true run play, how do you get him lined up against a tight end and not just create a weak spot on the line. 2. Do we know he has any coverage skills, despite his apparent physical attributes?

 

Anyways, what do you guys think? Aaron Maybin as our dedicated man to cover or block tight ends whenever they are on the field?

Maybin hasn't been on a football field that much period (college or pro), so who knows. From the little I have seen, he seems to have excellent short-area quickness and that's about it. He's very wooden and mechanical and does not show fluid athleticism. If he was a gifted natural athlete then the Bills would have been and still be working him in much more at OLB, as it's not like they have great OLBs on this team. Still, the fact is that they stepped back in pre-season and put him in a much more familiar role, as pass rush specialist, and he has come up puny. So, this myth that Maybin is some sort of freak athlete that could play any position on the football field if he was given the chance is a pipe dream.