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Does anyone know if Josh Allen's first preseason game start on Sunday will be televised locally?

Ask me this question after he gets hit, the career ending concussion is just around the corner, this guy has a glass jaw.

4 reasons, 2 concussions 1 bum shoulder 1 arrogant SOB with Ryan Leaf Syndrome Even if Allen's a bust and Rosen is great, he is 1 concussion away from the end of the line!

NEWMAN!!!!

As far as this draft goes, I am convinced of one thing - the new management has some stones. The Bills still have 6 picks this year and not touched anything from next year, with a class deep with Guards don't be surprised to see Brandon come back into the second with next years third and this years fourth and fifth from this year to get a guard and RT with his new second round pick and third round pick. Just a hunch!!

Sooooooooooooo - what you are saying is you don't like this QB class?

Is this you Nate?

I can't believe how dumb we are, if we have a guy like Unch on the roster, who can clearly play a number of positions, lets trade him for the number two pick. His combine numbers were off the chart!!

There is no way the bills take Lamar Jackson before Mason Rudolph. Lamar is Robert Griffin all over again, way to skinny and wont be able to take hits, our line stinks, he is going to get hit a lot and he is Tyrod Taylor and they don't like what Tyrod brings. Lamar will be at best a back up or out of the league with Knee problems in 2 years. I think the bills are going to sit an wait and hope Mason falls to them, he can chuck a ball and yes I know he is coming from a week conference but the NFL is a throwing game now and no one can deny Mason can throw. If Mason is gone its Mike White, but they are not moving up, there is no sure shot at QB this year and Mason and White have the same chances as the others to be Franchise QB's JMO

I hope they do this right, 4 picks in the first two rounds and free agency, do not address qb this year, draft an LB, DT, 2 interior lineman and move on from incognito and miller and mills as starters, keep Glenn, resign Gaines, take a RB in the third and then load up with corners. if they do this right and build a kick as front for a QB than draft whoever you want next year, move up and take the guy you want, unless Mike white is there in the 4th (which I doubt) sign a journeyman QB. If the o-line is great the chance of your 1st round qb picks goes through the roof. just my opinion

i agree its mike white in the second or third for me!! i actually think white is the best QB in the class and most ready. Truth is qb is a crap shoot, its far more rare to hit on a guy in the first round than it is to miss, so keep picking until you get lucky, but if you get a great o-line first that keep him off the ground just about any qb will work. Taylor improved our o-lines stats because he can get out of the pocket and avoid sacks, his sack number is far less than it would be if he stayed in the pocket. Keep Glenn and move him to the rignt side (hope he stays heathly for a year and then take a RT in the first), keep dawkins at left the kid is a baller, get Groy in and get rid of both interiors and pay some money and get the best we can afford in Free agency. then draft Mike White and you have a franchise QB, use first three picks on the defensive side of the ball, DT, ML and and a pass rusher. any of these 1 st round names ring a bell, EJ Manual, Jake Locker, Brandon Weeden, Manzel, Brady Quinn, Time Tebow, Christian Ponder, Blain Gabbert, Griffen, Sanchez, Josh Freeman all misses, its only a fool that drafts a qb without a line.

The bills are high on Mike White at QB from WKU he is going to climb as we get closer to the draft, he should be a first rounder has all the tools but Bills will get him in the second.

Just wondering everyone's thoughts on this, we have 6 picks in the first 3 rounds and both our lines are in trouble. Drafting a QB and putting him behind a sub par O line is going to amount in a bust in my opinion. would we not be better off drafting a RT and trying to get rid of Glenn in a Trade? We should be looking at RT, And a LG to replace Richie as well as a Tackle to replace Kyle Maybe 2 tackles we also need another pass rusher, i like Shaq, he can set the edge but he did struggle a bit the last couple of games but If we cant keep the QB off the ground and safe its a wasted pick. I am not even sure Petterman cant be the guy with a line in front of him, he does have a strong enough arm, a fast release, decent runner, i bet he is a different QB with a Line in front of him. I just think the days of letting your #1 pick if a qb have a season to develop, if P. Manning came out today, he may never have played past the 3rd or 4th game, never mine a whole season. If i was drafting i would be looking at draft players in expensive positions like LT, RT, DT, Pass Rusher, QB and corners most they other positions we need like RG, LG and LB we can get deals on, I just dont think we have a strong enough line to draft a QB and expect a result. If we do this and let Petterman play a season he is either a different QB behind a good line or a bust in which case hopefully we can draft a qb in 19 with a great Oline, just look at Philly and Dallas two extremes, a first rounder and a 4th rounder bit both teams have great lines so go ahead and rip me a new one.

I have been saying for the last 3 seasons that our line sucks but its bigger than the right side, Ritchie has one year left, Glenn can't stay healthy and we are ok with woods because we have Groy, TT is bad but he is masking the issues on the line, we need to draft or sign a RT, RG, LT, LG, ML, DT before we even think of drafting a QB, its a shame because they are going to go back to TT, he is going to hide the line issues and they will draft another qb who will get killed. Have the best line in the league and just about any decent QB can be a franchise, look at Dallas and Philly, please fix the line

you need to fix the line next year, Ritchie is 100 years old, Mills stinks at RT, Glen is always hurt. Once you deal with that and you can keep a franchise QB from getting killed then go get a QB until then everyone will fail. Just look at Luck and then look at Wentz, If you keep the passer safe you even have a chance with Petterman because he reads the field fast and releases the ball.

I have been hearing a lot about trading out starting LT, and all I keep hearing is it would take a lot to get him, but any guesses on what that means? is it a first? is it two first? is it first and a second? or is this even possible with his contract? I think Dawkins is going to be a good Tackle, left looks better than right and with Henderson back whom I thought did really well last year covering for Glenn we could be in good shape, that is if the wake up and get rid of Mills, I am struggling to see what everyone else see in him.

or the GM has no idea about the player anyway

hey are they hiring where you work, obviously you are allowed to drink through the day!!

we might get a bag of footballs and a pair of seasons tickets to the blue jays and mean Joe Green for him, he is worthless until he can prove he can play, and if he does prove he can play we pick up the option and then sign him. The injury protection would be difficult to over come.

I have been reading a lot about the 2017 draft class and everyone seems to be on the same page about depth. There seems to be an abundance of quality at least one of our needs and not so much at the others. This draft seems to be deep with Corners so I think the Bills deal with that in the third, I think they will find a starter there just based on how many there are. If you look at OG there is not a lot of quality and wide receivers seems to be a little bit deeper but maybe not to much unless they are looking for a #2, which I think is the right move for now and hope Sammy is healthy. They have to keep TT off the ground and in the pocket so he can throw the ball this year, my gut tells me with such a weak OT class that is were the first pick lies and hope a good receiver slips or we get a good shot at a #2 in the second. Myself personally would like to see them draft a receiver but based on depth I'm betting its OT, then if TT sucks hopefully our OL will be among the best in the league and we can draft a QB since next years QB class seems better. Any thoughts...

did we not already draft this bust!! or is it another MW bust waiting to happen?

If I was the Bills GM for 1 moth I would, Switch back to a 4 - 3 Defense, move Hughes back up front and run with Both Browns, Ragland and Lorenzo as your LB's let go of: Shady and free up some cash and get out of a very expensive contact on an aging always hurt RB (mind you, hurt and all he still puts up numbers) TT and EJ and run with 2 rookies and CJ, yes it will hurt but its going to hurt anyway , so lets see if we can find a stud Dan Carpenter and sign anyone cheap Goodwin - the guy sucks or give him a shot at punt returner Draft: 1st rd = Best QB Available 2nd rd = Best Safety available 3rd rd = Best QB available 4rd, rd best RB available (even though I think we have a good rookie and decent veteran left on the roster 5th, secondary 6th, secondary 7th , kicker Sign Gilmore, we could do worse, he got much better this year sign the best Right Guard free agent we can Lorenzo, see if he would sign a 2 year deal woods, he has been steady eddy best free agent # 2 receiver a durable back up RB sign the best corner other than Gilmore Zack Brown Finally beg K. Williams to come back Lawson and Ragland will be like adding 2 new picks and I hope will be pay off. Ok members go ahead and give it to me!

I never suggested he acted suddenly, I am stating he acted out side his plan. I believe he wanted to fire Rex, I also believe he had a plan on how and why he was going to do it. I know very few executives in any industry that act outside the plan unless something forces then to change the plan and not discuss with any key trusted sources and request opinions. He may have said to himself - Aw screw it I was going to Fire Rex next week but he just pissed me off so I will do it now without seeking any counsel, that is well with in his rights to do. I just do not know any executives outside of Trump who operate this way. Decisions are made for a desired outcome, calculated, managed and prepared for, when you change the plan because you feel like changing the plan, you willingly put the rest of your teams plan in Jeopardy. I could be overthinking this, I just believe something bigger is out there, to me the proof points to Whaley is next, and for all those people who don't think he would let Whaley lead the search and then fire the guy. This happens all time here is the reason - if they had a plan which they did it would have involved Whaley, he also would have had many discussions on the type of guy they wanted, so continue with the plan in place, just pick up best you can on where you broke away from it. Ultimately Pegula must have wanted the new coach that was chosen and he signed off on, Whaley was just a Pion to bring in the people. Again just my opinion and thinking through as a business person. Whaley's days are numbered.

Again, just looking from a business point, something happened on that conference call to force Pegula to react. You are all right, Rex may have said some insulting things and Pegula reacted. I just don't think that Pegula is that kind if guy, In the past he has shown that he is sometimes to passionate but if he had made the plan to fire Rex, and I believe he did, why did he react so fast before the end of the season. Just an Opinion.

I agree, But New coach, New Era! coach will decide who they resign, 26 players no joke here and probably wants to be held accountable for his team, not Rex and Whaley's team, make sense to axe Whaley now and start fresh, with new regime deciding who they resign, who the draft and who they go after in free agency. Still time to find a GM, but with all player decisions going to the coach, he really does not need Whaley or a GM. The shared power thing was in Sully's story posted on our board.