Donuts and Doritos Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Could have cleared $23 mill only cleared $16 mill... Beane is cheap! 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Interesting that they didn't take advantage of all of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Not a lot of room. Cap is real. Not expecting any big signings. Need a good draft and kids to step up. Going to be a rebuild year. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Do we really need a new thread for this? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Process said: Interesting that they didn't take advantage of all of it. And why $16 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Interesting. Over the cap and sporttrac had a restructure getting us 23 mill in cap room. Well, those rip-resistant pants ain’t cheap… Got to help him out somewhere! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Yes Not sure why this redundant thread hasn’t been moved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Green Lightning said: Not a lot of room. Cap is real. Not expecting any big signings. Need a good draft and kids to step up. Going to be a rebuild year. People please stop saying the cap is real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, Virgil said: Interesting. I would have assumed we'd have saved more, but I guess that means we are under the cap now. Who's left at this point? I would think only Oliver. I don't want us to touch Diggs and kick the can down the road, unless he wants to give some money back like Knox and Von (doubtful). I'm wondering when we give him a new overall deal though. He's well worth more than his deal. I would expect a contract extension for Taron Johnson as well. He's on the last year of his contract and has a current year cap hit over $12M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: And why $16 million? DJ Reader 12.5 mil + Sutton 3.5 mil 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: And why $16 million? Beans doesn't want to be in cap Hell every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Process said: Interesting that they didn't take advantage of all of it. I'm surprised as well. Only because I expect them to rip this contract up next season and give Josh a raise. He's due and it would negate any restructures already on the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, stevestojan said: Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. Not all owners like to pay big cash bonuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: People please stop saying the cap is real. It is. Deal with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: getting Diggs to rework his deal would be amazing haha Milano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Brandon said: I would expect a contract extension for Taron Johnson as well. He's on the last year of his contract and has a current year cap hit over $12M. Very good point. I forgot about him. Oliver and TJ could probably save another 10 mil. Just now, boyst said: Milano Him too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Allen will be restructured every year. Don’t get why they didn’t do the max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, boyst said: Milano interesting. What does that free up? 6 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Not a lot of room. Cap is real. Not expecting any big signings. Need a good draft and kids to step up. Going to be a rebuild year. A retooling and shifting of some pieces, but not a rebuild by any means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. The money saved this year is spread out over the remaining life of the contract (including this year). The main downside is that it increases the cap hit in future years. Its possible to keep doing it every year as long as the amounts being pushed into future years are less than the annual salary cap increases. Edited March 12 by Brandon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, Green Lightning said: Beans doesn't want to be in cap Hell every year. That $7 million isn’t going to change much of anything spread out in future years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Every time I log out for a bit something Bills related happens. Dawkins, Davis, Floyd, AJE, Josh… maybe I ought to sign off again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: interesting. What does that free up? 6 mil? Not much which is why it's worth it. A tad over $2mm that can be converted to bonus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, UKBillFan said: Every time I log out for a bit something Bills related happens. Dawkins, Davis, Floyd, AJE, Josh… maybe I ought to sign off again. sign off for the night so we can swing a massive trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 21 minutes ago, zevo said: I hope it’s Hollywood If it's a WR, I'd would bet Ridley over Brown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Not sure why this redundant thread hasn’t been moved. I didn't ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, UKBillFan said: Every time I log out for a bit something Bills related happens. Dawkins, Davis, Floyd, AJE, Josh… maybe I ought to sign off again. BBB likes to save his biggest move of the day for primetime - Something coming 9 pm or later tonight??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: sign off for the night so we can swing a massive trade I’ll give it a go - but won’t take the blame if nothing happens. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Chicken Boo said: If it's a WR, I'd would bet Ridley over Brown. Ridley would be pretty awesome. However, he is likely going to get north of 20 million per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Every time I log out for a bit something Bills related happens. Dawkins, Davis, Floyd, AJE, Josh… maybe I ought to sign off again. Beane does a lot of work after 8pm - check back at midnight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, H2o said: A retooling and shifting of some pieces, but not a rebuild by any means By that I mean we need a step up from our younger players and solid performances from unproven places to compete with the top AFC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 So they basically took his base salary and turned it into a signing bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 I like what they did here. Beane is thinking of the future, and maintaining competitiveness throughout the JA era. And that's the right way to go, imo. The more chances you have at bat, the more likely you are to get a hit. Going all in for a year or 2 and then digging out of it never really appealed to me as a fan. You could argue that we're kind of doing the latter right now - but this will still be a contending team in the fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Big Blitz said: Beane does a lot of work after 8pm - check back at midnight! That’s 5am here. *Considers setting alarm* Right, seriously, going… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: If it's a WR, I'd would bet Ridley over Brown. I really don’t get the Hollywood Brown train… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Brandon said: The money saved this year is spread out over the remaining life of the contract. It increases the cap hit in future years. Its possible to keep doing it every year as long as the amounts being pushed into future years are less than the annual salary cap increases. And what you don’t spend this year can be carried over. It makes no difference. Basically by not taking all of it tells me there’s a self imposed cash limit set by the owner. In other words the owner isn’t a blank check this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Ridley would be pretty awesome. However, he is likely going to get north of 20 million per You think so? I was thinking the $10-$12 million range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That $7 million isn’t going to change much of anything spread out in future years. $7 mil here and $5 mil here and pretty soon you're talking really money... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 23 minutes ago, ngbills said: Obvious move. Only question is did they limit the amount they converted for some reason? I had seen over $20m as the savings, as high as $24m. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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