Punching Bag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Merge if needed. Alex Van Pelt is a better OC (ask Jim Kelly and Aaron Rodgers) and they are stepping backwards into a pile which is brown and smells bad. 3 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I feel like he would he even worse without a good QB 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Let’s hope this happens. Will waste a good defense. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I feel like he would he even worse without a good QB Yeah, if he couldn’t cut it with Allen, how in the heck he gonna cut it with Washed Up Watson. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Dorsey was part of building this thing. By all counts he’s a good X’s and O’s coach and a smart guy. But he seems to lack in his feel for play calling. If he can get better at that then he’s a good get for somebody. I have no ill will for the guy. Good luck out there Ken. 8 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Merge if needed. Alex Van Pelt is a better OC (ask Jim Kelly and Aaron Rodgers) and they are stepping backwards into a pile which is brown and smells bad. Kelly could never excel in a traditional offense and Rodgers likes Nate Hackett. Sorry but I can't endorse AVP as a OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Deshaun Watson: "QB draw from the shotgun?! What chu talkin about, Willis?!" 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 31 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Good. I like him, but I want a WCO brought in here. Rogers, Favre, Elway, Young, Montana and even the crybaby Mahomes has excelled with a WCO. Look what it did for the young rookie in Houston. I kinda feel like that's a heavily modified version of the WCO as Stroud was throwing deep down field fairly often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I hope he learned from his experience here, can improve, and I wish him the best of luck wherever he lands. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Guy was fired after 12 games working with JOSH ALLEN. If he couldn’t succeed here, he won’t succeed there. Weird interview choice for the Browns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Guy was fired after 12 games working with JOSH ALLEN. If he couldn’t succeed here, he won’t succeed there. Weird interview choice for the Browns. Disagree. He failed because he had Josh Allen and tried to protect him and not let him be Josh Allen. If he goes to a team without Josh Allen, chances are he has to work with what he has - and I think he can be quite good. Its a risk for any team, but I'd consider taking a chance if I was looking for an OC. He got a bit of a raw deal here. we needed to change to get a spark. He was the sacrificial lamb to some extent. Much more so than the actual root cause of the problem. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Dorsey is going to have to work his way up from the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 16 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Guy was fired after 12 games working with JOSH ALLEN. If he couldn’t succeed here, he won’t succeed there. Weird interview choice for the Browns. 11 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: Disagree. He failed because he had Josh Allen and tried to protect him and not let him be Josh Allen. If he goes to a team without Josh Allen, chances are he has to work with what he has - and I think he can be quite good. Its a risk for any team, but I'd consider taking a chance if I was looking for an OC. He got a bit of a raw deal here. we needed to change to get a spark. He was the sacrificial lamb to some extent. Much more so than the actual root cause of the problem. In fairness to Dorsey, if you listen to all of McDermott's comments about Josh Allen through the entirety of last offseason, it's clear that Dorsey was doing what McDermott wanted... to have Josh run less. That's on McDermott. Joe Brady has done 2 things that Dorsey couldn't that have had a huge difference: 1) He has convinced McDermott that Josh needs to run more. 2) He has gotten Josh back to the level of discipline that he had under Brian Daboll where he's not trying to throw a grand slam home run on every play. Daboll was pretty good at this whereas Dorsey failed to reign in Josh. Repeating myself yet again but in 2020 Josh completed 69.2% of his passes and threw only 10 INTs. His INT % was 1.7%, the lowest of his career. This year Josh is at 3.1%, the highest since he was a rookie however he's been playing with more discipline lately in the passing game. Josh will have to be nearly flawless for us to reach the summit. BTW @JimBob2232, congratulations on getting the Indy job! https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/jim-bob-cooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Bad news for the Browns is Watson will be back He hasn't been good since the 2020 season. That's 4 years ago this fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Let’s hope it happens!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Coaches can evolve as well. I hope he lands on his feet and does well somewhere else. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I like Ken. Shame it didn't work out here. Maybe time helps him cover some errors he made here. Might be a good spot for him as I don't think Stefanski gives away play calling duties. Lets him take a step back and learn. I think his biggest flaws were his lack of feel for game flow and an overly complicated system. Neither would be an issue for him as an OC for Stefanski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Bad news for the Browns is Watson will be back He hasn't been good since the 2020 season. That's 4 years ago this fall. That's fine with me i don't like the guy & i hope all of his seasons go like this last one the NFL is better off with out him I know that's harsh but i just didn't like anything he did or the way he handled his self after the fact and then to get rewarded for it by the Browns 😢 i think this was another Browns type decision . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 There’s probably a school of thought (that may or may not be accurate lol it’s probably not) that we were just kind of snakebit early in the season and Dorsey got fired unjustly. I don’t think that’s the case but I can see how someone would 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think Ken Dorsey deserves another shot at OC. He wasn't as terrible as some fans here make him out to be. It just didn't work out. 3 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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