HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. 7 1 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think he is mentally done in Buffalo. We saw it at the end of last year,heard about it in the offseason. I think he, and Josh, don't believe they can win with McDermott as HC. 5 2 15 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Imo it's only really been the last 2 games. His stats are still at the top. Taking him out on 3rd downs is baffling though 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He is 30 in a week. Most WRs are done at 30 nowadays. This ain’t Jerry Rice era NFL. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He’s looked bad the last two games with the drops. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Steptide said: Imo it's only really been the last 2 games. His stats are still at the top. Taking him out on 3rd downs is baffling though Agree with the last 2 games, it’s very likely they aren’t making the playoffs. I wonder if he believes that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 You’re spot on like always. Diggs hasn’t been his dominant self. Seems like he’s struggling to create separation consistently, and it also seems like he has a lot more drops this year 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 We need another true #2 WR. To take some pressure off of Diggs. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: Imo it's only really been the last 2 games. His stats are still at the top. Taking him out on 3rd downs is baffling though I didn’t understand that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He's had some frustrating drops lately, but he's also played well enough as a whole that I don't think there's any real issue. It just seems like there's a collective case of bad luck going around this team this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I did find it interesting how happy he seemed to be as the game ended. He looked like we won the game with how he was talking to players on the field 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Wondering if he is nursing something? was out on a few plays today need to see the snap count 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Agree with the last 2 games, it’s very likely they aren’t making the playoffs. I wonder if he believes that too. Of course he does. And he doesn't give a damn, nor do I and most fans,about playoffs. He wants a ring before he retires 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 77-895-2 Hes still a great player, but on the down swing. Hes got a few good years left, but the front office needs to address the hole at WR last year Edited November 27, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Steptide said: Imo it's only really been the last 2 games. Yeah it's something I've been thinking about since the London game, but the last two weeks in particular are what led me to create this thread. I just don't see anybody talking about it which is weird. From 2020 to 2022 I was confident saying he was a top 5 WR in football. This year it feels a little off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think he's been the most reliable, consistent player on this offense and if you put better receivers in the room with him this discussion is never even considered. 5 1 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. He looked fine to me. Is it wrong to get the rest of our offensive weapons involved? There's only one football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 He wants a SB win and he knows time is running out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. You aren't wrong. What was even odder to me was how he was coming out on 3rd down at times tonight. Not typical. Wonder if he's playing through some kind of injury. Hoping he's not hitting that WR drop off. He's had his moments, for sure this year. But I'm thinking IF the Bills miss the playoffs this off season could be very interesting where it concerns 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I think he is mentally done in Buffalo. We saw it at the end of last year,heard about it in the offseason. I think he, and Josh, don't believe they can win with McDermott as HC. 100%. They know they will win nothing with McD. Buffalo are wasting two of the best players careers. Dalton Kincaid....you're next. Makes me ***** sick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Some people have mentioned it. He’s partially checked out and he’s 30. Another thing, I think Diggs gave it his all last year during an impossible year. He used up most of his remaining tires. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. At half time, I said, “it’s time to make some hard decisions, the first one needs to be letting Diggs go, he’s not the same guy, huge cap hit, no performance.”’ He’s not a difference make any more. Trade him and get what you can. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: Imo it's only really been the last 2 games. His stats are still at the top. Taking him out on 3rd downs is baffling though Yeah I'd agree too, it's not been a season long thing,. more just past few games. Agree too don't understand why they took him out. Admittedly I didn't see what he did on the play prior, maybe he just ran 50 yards downfield?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs. I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast. Flame away. He has been fine. The last 2 games before this one he was quiet. This one he was pretty much back to himself. Stop making it sound like there is a skill decline. Since week 5? Nothing to see here. Thanks for a useless thread. Enjoy your night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Maybe his spirit is broken; he knows this team isn't going anywhere without lots of changes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I said it a week or 2 ago and I’ll say it again. Dude rarely ever makes big plays when we need him the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: You’re spot on like always. Diggs hasn’t been his dominant self. Seems like he’s struggling to create separation consistently, and it also seems like he has a lot more drops this year What are you talking about? Up until the last 3 games he was on pace for like 120 catches and will still get over 100 by years end. He has what? 8 or 9 TDs. He's fine at separating. People like to pull junk out of thin air Edited November 27, 2023 by Buffalo03 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCofNC said: At half time, I said, “it’s time to make some hard decisions, the first one needs to be letting Diggs go, he’s not the same guy, huge cap hit, no performance.”’ He’s not a difference make any more. Trade him and get what you can. “No performance”?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) He is here because he has to be at this point. Whatever happened last off-season was nasty but he is stuck. I doubt a season like this will make him feel differently this off season. It's only going to get worse. Edited November 27, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: I did find it interesting how happy he seemed to be as the game ended. He looked like we won the game with how he was talking to players on the field he was laughing in disbelief at how badly his head coach sucks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Buffalo03 said: What are you talking about? Up until the last 3 games he was on pace for like 120 catches and will still get over 100 by years end. He has what? 8 or 9 TDs. He's fine at separating. People like pull junk out of thin air Has a great start to the year and a lot of those stats are from the first 5 games He hasn’t been playing great football as of late, for his standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It’s not Diggs ability that dropped off, he’s mentally checked out unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Zag20 said: “No performance”?? Show me a #1 who’s showed up less with a top 5 QB and I’ll back off it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, DCofNC said: Show me a #1 who’s showed up less with a top 5 QB and I’ll back off it: That’s a small sampling of players, but he’s among the league leaders in every receiving category still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Enough of this nitpicky, scapegoating BS when the issue is obviously at the top of the team. Stef Diggs is not a problem. As a matter of fact, I'd say if we had 22 Stef Diggs we'd have 2 Lombardis by now. Dude is a baller and a consummate pro who always shows up to play. Replace the coaching and let the talent win. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I think there might have been something specifically off with him tonight as people seemed to note him coming off at times that was unusual but I don't know about an actual drop-off this year, there was the midseason offensive collapse in which everything was awful and the Jets game where things picked up but he had some drops early and was like before heavily covered and game planned for by the opposing defense. Hopefully whatever was off with him today will be better through the bye and we'll see him and Allen clicking more with the offense that doesn't appear to be a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, RiotAct said: he was laughing in disbelief at how badly his head coach sucks. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how he feels given his past issues with the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said: Has a great start to the year and a lot of those stats are from the first 5 games He hasn’t been playing great football as of late, for his standards Let's not forget, we had Dorsey calling plays and was awful. Let's see what he does under Brady. But he has no separation issues. It's just typical people here. "Oh my God, he's 29 and had couple mediocre games under a bad offensive coordinator. He can't separate". It's an automatic assumption after a few bad games at that age of 29. He's fine. He has had a few drops. But no issues with separation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RousseauRage Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 he needs a better QB 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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