One big reason for optimism - the QBs

[BillsFan619]

Each team’s QB in the playoff race:

Browns - DTR

Steelers - Pickett

Texans - Stroud (good but the rookie wall is real)

Bengals - Browning

Colts - Minshew

 

Us - JA, who is 19-3 since 2020 from week 11 on. ‘Nuff said.

 

Go Bills!

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by BillsFan619

[zow2]

Yes those other teams will be losing some games. For sure. 

[Buffalo Dude]

Yes, JA > those QBs

 

but we’ll be facing some of the leagues best QBs in the next few games

[Mango]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Yes, JA > those QBs

 

but we’ll be facing some of the leagues best QBs in the next few games

I know I sound crazy, but I don’t get the Eagles hype. Let me rephrase that, the Eagles are a very good team, I don’t get the Jalen Hurts hype. I think his roster and his max squat carry that team. 

[NewEra]

Some contenders suffered some worse luck than us.  I ain’t sad about it.  Just keep the bad kick away from us and win some games. 

We can make a run.  Next week will tell us how serious of a team we are

[Buffalo Dude]

3 minutes ago, Mango said:

I know I sound crazy, but I don’t get the Eagles hype. Let me rephrase that, the Eagles are a very good team, I don’t get the Jalen Hurts hype. I think his roster and his max squat carry that team. 

You may be right. Either way Mahomes, Hurts, Prescott, Herbert, Tua are all top tier QBs and we’ve got to beat at least 3 of them. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

Watched that Browns/Steelers game today.  Seeing those QBs made me feel awesome about who we have at QB.  Hopefully we can keep things rolling against the reigning Super Bowl teams over next couple of weeks.

[BillsFan619]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Some contenders suffered some worse luck than us.  I ain’t sad about it.  Just keep the bad kick away from us and win some games. 

We can make a run.  Next week will tell us how serious of a team we are

Yup, we can definitely make a run.

 

With the list of QBs I mentioned, even with our schedule, we have as good of a shot as anyone. We most likely have even a better shot than many of those teams simply because we have JA.

 

Go Bills!

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, BillsFan619 said:

Yup, we can definitely make a run.

 

With the list of QBs I mentioned, even with our schedule, we have as good of a shot as anyone. We most likely have even a better shot than many of those teams simply because we have JA.

 

Go Bills!

 

You always have a chance when you have Josh Allen.  It's an even higher chance when he has the offense getting production out of whomever is open any given play.  Easy to take what is open when the target finishes the play.  And with the running game producing it kept our defense fresh and able to make the plays as needed late in the game.  The offense didn't panic when the Jets threatened to close the gap they just kept chipping away at the Jets till they broke down under the continuous onslaught.  Allen didn't have to force the deep ball yet he got the longest td pass of the season by using his ability to rifle a pass threw a small window and beating a top corner; though I do think sauce is a tad overrated due to his tendency on holding and that he has gotten away with it  far too often that I don't think he's as talented as others rate him.  Hopefully the league hits him with a hefty fine for his personal foul on Diggs.  I certainly think he's a loose cannon and I could see him cause an injury in Miami if the embarrass him as Allen did.  Tua certainly is capable of embarrassing Sauce.  

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Mango said:

I know I sound crazy, but I don’t get the Eagles hype. Let me rephrase that, the Eagles are a very good team, I don’t get the Jalen Hurts hype. I think his roster and his max squat carry that team. 

 

Disagree.  He is not at Josh's level but very good QB who does not make as many mistakes.

There is a bar/restaurant I go to when I do not want to drive to my Bills bar which can be an hour away.

I got acquainted with an Eagles fan and told him their backup QB was much better than starter and when he took over team would ascend.  He had no confidence and I told him when he started getting more snaps in 2020.  In 2021 he was starter and I told him congratulations and he still seemed depressed about the team and I told him his QB was rising.  In 2022 team was doing great and he told me had playoff tickets and could get 2 for Superbowl and asked if I wanted to go.  Turned him down. He seems to have more faith in Hurts this year.

[Punching Bag]

38 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

You always have a chance when you have Josh Allen.  It's an even higher chance when he has the offense getting production out of whomever is open any given play.  Easy to take what is open when the target finishes the play.  And with the running game producing it kept our defense fresh and able to make the plays as needed late in the game.  The offense didn't panic when the Jets threatened to close the gap they just kept chipping away at the Jets till they broke down under the continuous onslaught.  Allen didn't have to force the deep ball yet he got the longest td pass of the season by using his ability to rifle a pass threw a small window and beating a top corner; though I do think sauce is a tad overrated due to his tendency on holding and that he has gotten away with it  far too often that I don't think he's as talented as others rate him.  Hopefully the league hits him with a hefty fine for his personal foul on Diggs.  I certainly think he's a loose cannon and I could see him cause an injury in Miami if the embarrass him as Allen did.  Tua certainly is capable of embarrassing Sauce.  

 

Sauce clearly has practiced on how to get away with it holding and other infractions like a magician.

New England DBs were known for this.

 

Since replay is rarely used except turnover if the zebras do not get a clear view of it they are not calling the penalty.

 

I could see Sauce doing causing an injury knowing that it makes 2nd game vs Miami later easier.

Sweep the leg. 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

3 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

Each team’s QB in the playoff race:

Browns - DTR

Steelers - Pickett

Texans - Stroud (good but the rookie wall is real)

Bengals - Browning

Colts - Minshew

 

Us - JA, who is 19-3 since 2020 from week 11 on. ‘Nuff said.

 

Go Bills!

 

Too bad we are not playing any of those teams.  Instead we have

 

Hurts

Mahones

Prescott

Herbert

Mac maybe

Tua

 

thats are tough stretch. We need at least 30 each outing. Will be tough but still alive. Go Bills. 

[Dr.Sack]

Hurts is beatable if we have a healthy compliment of CBs.

[AuntieEm]

16 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

Too bad we are not playing any of those teams.  Instead we have

 

Hurts

Mahones

Prescott

Herbert

Mac maybe

Tua

 

thats are tough stretch. We need at least 30 each outing. Will be tough but still alive. Go Bills. 

 

They may indeed need 30+ a game to win versus those qbs. I'll gladly take Josh as the Qb that can get that done.  Against the Jets defense they got the win and dominated ToP, the defense did enough to keep Jets scoreless.  Josh seems to have found the fun again and I don't think that Diggs cares he was held to so few yards, didn't Diggs tweak his back recently in practice?  Could be they deliberately didn't target Diggs as usual if he's nursing a sore back.  Could see him telling the coaches to use him as a decoy to help free up other guys and then Shakir finishing off a nice throw by Allen.  Kincaid is gonna be drawing more coverage now too so If teams leave Gabe open he could easily start catching passes when he's not being jammed.  He's streaky so when it's not clicking Allen can cycle through his options till he finds the right mix against any given opponent.  I hope Knox gets back soon too because as Kincaids getting more targets having Knox and Kincaid both on field Diggs won't have many games where he's shut down for low yardage.  

[BillsFan619]

7 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Hurts is beatable if we have a healthy compliment of CBs.

Yup, hopefully TJ and DJ can clear protocol this week.

 

Go Bills!

[Logic]

The "other teams' QB" point is real, and I am optimistic that the Bills will have a shot at a Wild Card spot going into week 18.

HOWEVER...

The Bills AFC conference record is abysmal. They are 3-5. So the problem is that in a hypothetical world where they finish with the same record as the teams you mentioned, they lose most tie breakers.

Not only do the Bills likely need to go 5-2 down the stretch (which is no small feat), it would also really help if they won all of their remaining AFC games, specifically.

[WhoTom]

11 hours ago, Buffalo Dude said:

You may be right. Either way Mahomes, Hurts, Prescott, Herbert, Tua are all top tier QBs and we’ve got to beat at least 3 of them. 

 

The Packers just beat Herbert, the Broncos beat Mahomes, and we torched Tua.

[boater]

I love this bipolar place.

 

After loss, it's all knives and pitchforks.

 

After a win, it's land of milk and honey optimism.

 

It's been a pleasure to read today. Last week was rough.

[buffaloboyinATL]

12 hours ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Yes, JA > those QBs

 

but we’ll be facing some of the leagues best QBs in the next few games

Yup. I believe we need to win 4 out of the next 6 to make the playoffs.  If one of those 4 wins is against the Dolphins, that will be even better.  

[mjt328]

12 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

Each team’s QB in the playoff race:

Browns - DTR

Steelers - Pickett

Texans - Stroud (good but the rookie wall is real)

Bengals - Browning

Colts - Minshew

 

Us - JA, who is 19-3 since 2020 from week 11 on. ‘Nuff said.

 

Go Bills!

 

 

Yes, the QB situation for these teams is not great.  BUT they ALL hold tie-breakers over the Bills, and half of them have better/equal records.  

There are basically 9 teams somewhat in the hunt, besides us.  This is what we need to happen:

- Browns lose 5/7 

- Steelers, Texans lose 4/7

- Colts, Broncos, Bengals lose 3/7

- Raiders lose 2/6

- Chargers, Jets lose 2/8

 

If less than 7 of these 9 scenarios happens... then the Bills will need a record of 11-6 to make the playoffs.

No more than one loss.

 

[uninja]

8 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

Hurts is beatable if we have a healthy compliment of CBs.

 

AJ Brown is a damn wagon, I don't think we have a single CB (maybe Rasul?) that can play him straight up, if it's a 50-50 ball Brown is coming down with it.

[BarleyNY]

13 hours ago, NewEra said:

Some contenders suffered some worse luck than us.  I ain’t sad about it.  Just keep the bad kick away from us and win some games. 

We can make a run.  Next week will tell us how serious of a team we are

 

Agreed. Every time someone complains about the Bills’ injuries I ask them if they’d rather be dealing with what the Browns, Jets, Bengals or Colts are. That’s 1/4 of the AFC without their starting QB.

[ProcessTruster]

2 hours ago, boater said:

I love this bipolar place.

 

After loss, it's all knives and pitchforks.

 

After a win, it's land of milk and honey optimism.

 

It's been a pleasure to read today. Last week was rough.

yeah, level headed this group is not

[ProcessTruster]

winning the division outright seems the only way.    Phins have 

 

Jets 2x twice (no qb)

Commanders (rookie qb)

Titans (really rookie qb)

Cowboys

Ravens

 

Bills

 

If Bills go 3-2 and Phins  go 3-3 , then it all comes down to week 18 in Miami.   They need to lose one lousy game between the Jets, Titans or Ravens.

 

This seems the only path, unless Bills run the table (which they won't) 

[C.Biscuit97]

It’s scary to think what Cleveland and Pittsburgh would be if they had better than bottom 5 qb play. 
 

we have been deliver an absolute gifts with this crop of afc qbs. And the best one, Mahomes, might have the worst weapons. 

2 hours ago, boater said:

I love this bipolar place.

 

After loss, it's all knives and pitchforks.

 

After a win, it's land of milk and honey optimism.

 

It's been a pleasure to read today. Last week was rough.

You’re saying people are more happy when their team wins than when their team loses? I think you should get a major university to sponsor a study on this phenomenon scientist. 

[Success]

"Beating the teams you should beat" has really been a nemesis for the Bills in recent years.  Usually, we have one loss on the schedule that is a head-scratcher; this year, we've got a few.

 

We put ourselves in this position, and now we just have to fight our way out.  Outside of division leaders, I feel like we're significantly better than all of the teams we have to surpass - especially the teams who would get the WC if the season ended today.  

 

What a weird season.  All we can do is hope.  It's been awhile since I had a Sunday like yesterday, where I was watching at least 4-5 of the games w/ keen interest.

 

[90sBills]

12 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

Too bad we are not playing any of those teams.  Instead we have

 

Hurts

Mahones

Prescott

Herbert

Mac maybe

Tua

 

thats are tough stretch. We need at least 30 each outing. Will be tough but still alive. Go Bills. 

Not against KC. 24 ought to do it. They’re pedestrian this year. 

[LABILLBACKER]

17 hours ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Yes, JA > those QBs

 

but we’ll be facing some of the leagues best QBs in the next few games

We gotta split the Philly / KC games and must beat Dallas.

[Dr.Sack]

I’m of the opinion we get in.

 

NYT Playoff Machine Odds:

8-9, 0% W PHI, DAL / 2-4

8-9, <1% W KC, MIA / 2-4 

9-8, 2% L PHI, DAL, MIA / 3-3

9-8, 2% L PHI, KC, MIA / 3-3 

9-8, 3% L KC, DAL, MIA / 3-3 

9-8, 4% L PHI, KC, MIA / 3-3 

9-8, 6% L PHI, DAL, MIA / 3-3 

10-7, 44% L KC, MIA / 4-2

10-7, 57% L PHI, KC / 4-2 

10-7, 69% L PHI, DAL / 4-2 

11-6, 96% L MIA / 5-1

11-6, 97% L DAL / 5-1 

11-6, 97% L KC / 5-1 

11-6, 98% L PHI / 5-1 

12-5, 100% / 6-0