HappyDays Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This all sounds pretty bizarre: Ealier this week McDermott was asked about firing Dorsey and said "OC is a leadership position." Is it possible he felt that Dorsey wasn't getting Allen and the other offensive players into the right mindset and energy? And this more than play calling is what led to the firing? 13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: This all sounds pretty bizarre: Ealier this week McDermott was asked about firing Dorsey and said "OC is a leadership position." Is it possible he felt that Dorsey wasn't getting Allen and the other offensive players into the right mindset and energy? And this more than play calling is what led to the firing? Isn't this the impression we got from Diggs? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 agree 100% more than just scheme. It was apparent when Brady had his press conference and he said that I want to see that look in Josh's eye again and all the rah rah rhetoric. They all know that Josh is the engine and they have to keep him in the right positive mindset Quote 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) McDermott is acting like a guy who is under a lot of pressure and is not handling it very well. Not a good look for the franchise. Edited November 17, 2023 by mannc 8 8 10 29 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just lighting a little fire under Josh. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I mean it's not that weird, it's what we've all been seeing with Josh. He's just not the same guy right now. The thing that strikes me is McD being so forthcoming with how little he usually says about anything. 11 1 10 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 How are those comments bizzare? They seem spot on. 25 22 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I don't care who the OC is, or how "bad" your team is, if you're making $40 mil A YEAR (6 months, really), and you're playing a game, and you're not happy just to go out there and play, you need professional, mental help. 4 3 9 1 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I want to see that look in Josh's eyes again too 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This all sounds pretty bizarre: Ealier this week McDermott was asked about firing Dorsey and said "OC is a leadership position." Is it possible he felt that Dorsey wasn't getting Allen and the other offensive players into the right mindset and energy? And this more than play calling is what led to the firing? For all the talk about Dorsey's X's and O's I think your point was likely his biggest flaw. A huge part of coaching isn't just telling people the right things to do, it is getting them to do those things, finding the right words, to get the desired results. In fact, most coaches in the NFL are likely pretty comparable when it comes to x's and o's, but the difference between good to great is communicating that, and providing the proper environment/structure around it. Like a bunch of former QB's have said "guys are open, you have to make a play". Some of that is on the individual and some is on the coach. Whatever Dorsey was saying, nobody was hearing. It was time to move on because of that more so than any play call. 5 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Says the team that has given Allen Diggs and scrap parts to throw to, a below average offensive line in his time here, and doesn’t allow him to run anymore. It’s not all on the Bills, I think Allen sounds strange now and looks weird on the sidelines, and has admitted to not working as hard as he can. This team lacks playmakers, and the scheme has not been cutting edge. So Allen is having to play death by 1,000 papercuts offense and getting grilled relentlessly about turnovers from his coach and media. This franchise has spent their money on defense. Invest heavily in the offense and I think Allen comes back. Greg Cosell last night with Farrar - the Bills are not a talented offense. They became predictable on offense. Stefon Diggs is a high level possession receiver. They don’t have a vertical component in their offense. All this with a strong armed QB that wants to make plays down the field. And we sit here and scratch our head and say why can’t we score 30 every week? Allen is LeBron in Cleveland the first time around. Hey Josh here is a 1986 Camaro, now get out there win races. Edited November 17, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck 8 2 1 6 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, MJS said: How are those comments bizzare? They seem spot on. McDermott is usually very reserved and doesn't typically comment on his players' mental states like this. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I mean I guess if I think about it, at times it does feel like Josh could get into a rhythm and then it'd just get lost, like Dorsey couldn't find a way to keep things in sync with him for lack of a better way of phrasing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Every time McDummy opens his mouth, his words say "Here's another reason to fire my ass". Josh is unhappy because you made him that way, #######. 6 5 1 3 2 2 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I am very curious what McD's thoughts are on this. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, MJS said: How are those comments bizzare? They seem spot on. The “I have my own thoughts, but I won’t go there right now” comment seemed off-color and kind of unnecessary. Otherwise, I agree with you 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mango said: I am very curious what McD's thoughts are on this. Yeah exactly. He knows whats going on in Josh’s head but hes not telling us. Good distraction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 "low positive" may be a Ken Dorsey thing? Hopefully.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) If you think those comments are weird you should have heard him talk on WGR right before his press conference. I really haven't had a problem with McD and some of the things he says but this was kind of a "this is my team and you need to do it my way" kind of comment and it really made me lose faith in him. He was asked about the Cook benching after the fumble and basically said that he hadn't earned his trust the same as someone that might have been with the team for a longer period of time. I'm assuming this is a direct "trust" comparison between benching Cook and not benching Davis after he had an INT go off of his hands. So a guy who fumbled twice in 27 games gets less trust than a 58% catch percentage receiver. Got it. Edited November 17, 2023 by The Wiz 25 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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