Toyo321 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) On 10/8/2023 at 8:38 PM, PayDaBill$ said: How’s he look? Wealthy based on dollar$ per play over his contract. Seriously what’s the return on investment been so far? This is the worst free agent signing in the history of the Buffalo Bills era. He was way overpaid, too old, and now playing at half speed since his ACL injury. There is a saying when you spend a ton of money on a investment that pays you back zero interest or zero benefits. It's a generally considered a bad investment. Von Miller is a bust. Edited October 16, 2023 by Toyo321 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I saw him have one okay rush where he beat the tackle and forced Tyrod to make an early throw. Not close enough to count as a QB pressure though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: This is the worst free agent signing in the history of the Buffalo Bills era. He was way overpaid, too old, and now playing at half speed since his ACL injury. There is a saying when you spend a ton of money on a investment that pays you back zero interest or zero benefits. It's a generally considered a bad investment. Von Miller is a bust. Laughably incorrect. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He can’t turn the corner. The tackle just guides him beyond the QB and he can’t get close. Work in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Thought he was quicker this week, but is afraid (perhaps correctly) that his knee will explode if he turns the corner after getting past the tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I watched him on that NYG last drive. He’s got a good burst coming off the edge. But he’s a lil hesitant when he tried to do stunt moves where he wraps around the DT. He’s getting there. Not all the way 100% yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I didn't notice him, probably because he wasn't in on any plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: This is the worst free agent signing in the history of the Buffalo Bills era. He was way overpaid, too old, and now playing at half speed since his ACL injury. There is a saying when you spend a ton of money on a investment that pays you back zero interest or zero benefits. It's a generally considered a bad investment. Von Miller is a bust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Did you guys really think he was going to resume where he was preinjury the first two games back in less than a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I was wondering when you'd chime in on this thread given your vocal irrational hatred for Von The only way a pro athlete is going to be 100% after injury is to get game reps until they reach that level My issue with Von is not with him. It's with the team that paid him that much money. 1 hour ago, Saratoga Fan said: Would you say Tre was 100% when cleared? Physically, yes. Mentally, no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 like he's coming off an ACL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He looks worse than useless out there. He's a liability. They should have given him the full 21 days to recover and he should be inactive until he can be productive. Right now AJ Epenesa is a far superior player that shouldn't be taken off the field to give Von reps unless it's garbage time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: He looks worse than useless out there. He's a liability. They should have given him the full 21 days to recover and he should be inactive until he can be productive. Right now AJ Epenesa is a far superior player that shouldn't be taken off the field to give Von reps unless it's garbage time. Getting Von ramped up before we get to the toughest part of the season/playoffs is the main goal. He's clearly DE4, maybe even DE5 right now. But he's not going to improve just sitting around. They need to play him and it is what it is. Hopefully it pays off in November/December and beyond. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Getting Von ramped up before we get to the toughest part of the season/playoffs is the main goal. He's clearly DE4, maybe even DE5 right now. But he's not going to improve just sitting around. They need to play him and it is what it is. Hopefully it pays off in November/December and beyond. I'm not saying he should sit around, but he could be doing the same thing he's doing in games at the field house when there isn't a game on the line. He's in a really bad spot right now and needs to re-learn how to move laterally. All he can do right now is run in a straight line, and someone with that skillset shouldn't be active on game days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 he looked pretty average. It seems with every rush he just allowed the tackle to walk him up the field behind the quarterback. It was like he had no ability to run past a tackle last night except on one play where taylor was moving immediately to his left in the pocket. These were the two worst offensive tackles this team will play all season so this was a real bummer watching it live. Hopefully I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjnick Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 7:30 PM, Westside said: I wasn’t able to watch much of the game, I was wondering how Von looked and played. Would be great to see him start rounding into shape soon. BTW, I think Epenesa is starting to look like a beast Very slow, almost zero impact, BUT it's to be expected. Still needs to get his legs back under him and trust his knee. It will be a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Irv said: Somebody has to fill the void left by Edmunds. That being said, I watched the hi-lights. He seemed to get off the ball quickly, get by his man, then kind of give up and jog once Taylor moved up in the pocket. It was odd to see him just quit like that. That's not the kind of player he is. Something is definitely wrong. On the other hand, Epenesa was everywhere second game in a row. Something has changed with him. He's an animal now. Yeah I see it the same way, hoping it’s conditioning while ramping up and in a couple weeks Von will be chasing down QBs from the backside instead of pulling up. As for AJ, I never seen this jump coming and he’s looking like a legit starter not just a rotational piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKBills25 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I feel he is slowly getting back to it his jump off the ball is great he just doesn’t look as mobile after the jump like before but I feel he with time will get back to all pro Von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I still think bringing him back for the Jacksonville game cost us a very important roster spot that hurt us pretty badly. He hasn't impacted anything, lets face it, he's very old for that position. He was drafted with AJ Green, JJ Watt, Dareus, Julio Jones, Aaron Williams etc I don't think anyone from that draft class is still competing at a high level and Von is no exception. Beaner went all in to get a superbowl and squeeze one last season out of Von but the guy just has too many miles on him. Can still be a great leader, motivator, and maybe get home on a few 3rd down rushes this year but I don't expect much production 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm not saying he should sit around, but he could be doing the same thing he's doing in games at the field house when there isn't a game on the line. He's in a really bad spot right now and needs to re-learn how to move laterally. All he can do right now is run in a straight line, and someone with that skillset shouldn't be active on game days. You can’t get game reps without actually playing in a game 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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