Process Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 We're probably still a few weeks away from Von being back to full strength. Right now he needs playing time to get back up to speed. But he should not be out there in crucial end game situations. He's not effective at all as a pash rusher right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 washed totally and completely washed. Wasn't a fan of the signing when it happened, am even less so now. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 27 Snaps, 35% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Getting into game speed/shape. Relax people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He’s playing and building trust in the knee. I’m hopeful for him but also not overly concerned with our ability to generate pressure without him. Him being 100% would be a luxury at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: washed totally and completely washed. Wasn't a fan of the signing when it happened, am even less so now. That's quite the judgement to make considering he is obviously not fully rehabbed. I mean, he could be washed yes, but total and complete remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 The guy is only 10 months removed from ACL tear. It’s going to take a bit before he’s back in shape. I honestly don’t expect him back at full speed until end of reg season/ playoffs (assuming we make them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nuncha said: Old and slow unfortunately. I saw a shell of himself last night…maybe the knee isn’t fully healed but I have my doubts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, dickleyjones said: That's quite the judgement to make considering he is obviously not fully rehabbed. I mean, he could be washed yes, but total and complete remains to be seen. OK,then let's put it this way: He had zero impact on the game and shouldn't be on the field at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I am putting the cart before the horse, but if he shows very little the rest of the year, I cut him in the offseason, and take the dead cap hit. As far as the present, WTF are the coaches thinking not only activating him, but putting him on the field. He is beyond useless right now. These coaches are really great. Not sure if you’ve noticed or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said: OK,then let's put it this way: He had zero impact on the game and shouldn't be on the field at this point. Being on the field is part of rehab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Everyone's praising our D, but they held a team that hasn't even averaged 12 PPG or 1 TD/game to their second most total yards, passing yards, 1st Downs, and most riding yards that they've logged all season. ... in our house! Impressive? And the Giants had Barkley for the first time since week 2. 9 points against. That is the stat that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: washed totally and completely washed. Wasn't a fan of the signing when it happened, am even less so now. 100% agree. Hollywood Von would still be a Ram(and he probably preferred that) if the Bills didn’t empty the vault for him. Edited October 16, 2023 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Is Von the new red headed stepchild ? Fine… f**k that guy !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 If Von still looks this way come December, then I will worry. He's still only 11 months removed from his 2nd ACL tear. I think it will take a few weeks for him to round into form. Thankfully we signed Leonard Floyd, who has been a monster, and AJE seems to have turned the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Beast said: And the Giants had Barkley for the first time since week 2. 9 points against. That is the stat that matters. It matters, but my point was that it's also very much in line with their average of less than a FG more, and we allowed way more yards than their average. Not too mention that out was their blunders, not or D, that cost them the game. Twice in fact. LOL You cannot effectively argue that. The Giants offense, like most of Daboll's others, sucks, and in this case is the worst in the league, also not unfamiliar territory for him. I'm not patting the defense on the back for this performance, in a home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That's the position you put yourself in when your drafts are ineffective at producing impact pass rushers, much less elite players. He can thank himself for it. Are you really saying Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau and AJ Epenesa are ineffective pass rushers? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That's the position you put yourself in when your drafts are ineffective at producing impact pass rushers, much less elite players. He can thank himself for it. Epenesa, Rousseau, and Oliver arent making impacts on the DL? Seems more like the problem all along was the DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you really saying Ed Oliver, Greg Rousseau and AJ Epenesa are ineffective pass rushers? They weren't back when Von was signed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Billl said: They weren't back when Von was signed. Epenesa was developing and the change in DC seems to have made a significant difference. Rousseau has been good and now hitting his peak. Oliver didn’t have the sack numbers but he was a disruptor. He is now elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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