Israel and the Slaughter in Gaza

[Tiberius]

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Tuesday that a “revitalized” Palestinian Authority should retake control of Gaza if Israel succeeds in its goal of toppling Hamas, but that regional partners and international agencies could play an interim role.

The comments by Blinken during testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee marked the first time the Biden administration has publicly declared its desire for the PA to return to the Gaza Strip, after privately raising the idea with regional partners since the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war.

Hours after the hearing — which included repeated interruptions by several dozen of far-left protesters calling for a ceasefire — an Israeli official confirmed to The Times of Israel that Blinken will arrive in Tel Aviv on Friday for his second visit since the Hamas terror group launched its deadly shock assault over three weeks ago.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/blinken-to-visit-israel-on-friday-says-revitalized-pa-should-govern-gaza-after-war/

 

 

 

Well, at least they are talking about something happening to create a peaceful outcome 

 

(Bloomberg) -- The US and Israel are exploring options for the future of the Gaza Strip, including the possibility of a multinational force that may involve American troops if Israeli forces succeed in ousting Hamas, people familiar with the matter said.

The people said the conversations have been impelled by a sense of urgency to come up with a plan for the future of Gaza now that a ground invasion has begun. A second option would establish a peacekeeping force modeled on one that oversees a 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty, while a third would see Gaza put under temporary United Nations oversight. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-and-israel-weigh-peacekeepers-for-the-gaza-strip-after-hamas/ar-AA1jaPiB

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

Net-an-yahoo's son living it up in Florida! 

 

Yair Netanyahu's absence during Israel's war has drawn significant attention, especially considering the mobilization of hundreds of thousands of reservists and the national crisis unfolding. The British publications, Daily Mail and The Times have featured interviews with IDF soldiers who have volunteered for the reserves, expressing their disappointment in his failure to enlist during this critical time.

The Daily Mail devoted an article to exposing Yair Netanyahu's controversial past and criticized his decision to stay in Miami Beach since April, after being instructed by his father to cease posting inflammatory content on social media. In contrast, reservists are leaving their jobs, families, and even postponing honeymoons to defend their country.

https://www.jpost.com/j-spot/article-770792

[Tommy Callahan]

10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

Net-an-yahoo's son living it up in Florida! 

 

Yair Netanyahu's absence during Israel's war has drawn significant attention, especially considering the mobilization of hundreds of thousands of reservists and the national crisis unfolding. The British publications, Daily Mail and The Times have featured interviews with IDF soldiers who have volunteered for the reserves, expressing their disappointment in his failure to enlist during this critical time.

The Daily Mail devoted an article to exposing Yair Netanyahu's controversial past and criticized his decision to stay in Miami Beach since April, after being instructed by his father to cease posting inflammatory content on social media. In contrast, reservists are leaving their jobs, families, and even postponing honeymoons to defend their country.

https://www.jpost.com/j-spot/article-770792

 

 

Revealed: ‘anti-oligarch’ Ukrainian president’s offshore connections | Volodymyr Zelenskiy | The Guardian

 

Never realized how much of his shady dealings were in the panama papers.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58786291

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

22 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Yup...like Putin 

 

And like Barry and Joke giving Iran hundreds of millions to billions of dollars.

[B-Man]

 

[Tiberius]

45 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And like Barry and Joke giving Iran hundreds of millions to billions of dollars.

To get them not to build nukes! 

 

What's your solution? War? 

[TSOL]

14 hours ago, BillStime said:

Oh, now you care about the LITTLE guy?

 

Another nut job easily had by their cult leaders.

 

 

Always have, always will, pumpkin 

[Tiberius]

Even amid the terrible destruction that has transformed parts of Jenin into pits of jumbled masonry, the bullet-pocked tower of the Palestinian government headquarters stands out — not for the relatively light damage it sustained but for who caused it.

Whereas homes in this West Bank city have been demolished by Israeli troops, roads have been churned up by Israeli bulldozers and storefronts have been disfigured by Israeli gunfire, the offices of the Sultah, or Palestinian Authority, were attacked by Palestinians themselves during a noisy protest over Israel's bombardment of Gaza.

 

Disgusted with the authority's inability to protect its own people or stand up to Israel, militants in the crowd aimed their bullets at the government compound after its security forces tried to break up the demonstration.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/amid-israel-hamas-war-some-palestinians-rage-against-another-target-their-own-rulers/ar-AA1jcwpb

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Always have, always will, pumpkin 

 

👆Same guy👇

 

On 8/29/2022 at 9:39 AM, TSOL said:

Even an elementary school child can see that liberal government spending policy's, like the student debt forgiveness, is only going to increase inflation. 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

Read this sentence earlier today which sums up nicely the Israeli aid mystery.  Mainly why do US taxpayers have to provide any funding to a wealthy and prosperous country to fight a war? 

 

"Israel, with GDP of almost half a trillion dollars and a debt-to-GDP ratio that is half of that of the United States, and a super-advanced military, still somehow needs $14.3 billion from US taxpayers in order to continue its extensive bombing campaign throughout Gaza following the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack".

 

Add in lucrative revenue streams from Mediterranean NatGas fields and they've got plenty of their own cash.

 

 

[Warcodered]

16 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Makes you wonder—What will those people remember about the slaughter that precipitated Israel’s response?  Will they turn against Hamas?  Storm the tunnels?  Call for peace?  Or does their history lesson begin after all that took place? 

 

They're children, they're going to remember the things that directly happened to them the bombs that went off, the parents, siblings, other family, and friends killed, homes destroyed, starvation, thirst, scramble for shelter, and the fear they're going to remember all those horrible things that directly happened to them way better than a story about horrible things that happened somewhere else right before these things started happening.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Warcodered

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Read this sentence earlier today which sums up nicely the Israeli aid mystery.  Mainly why do US taxpayers have to provide any funding to a wealthy and prosperous country to fight a war? 

 

"Israel, with GDP of almost half a trillion dollars and a debt-to-GDP ratio that is half of that of the United States, and a super-advanced military, still somehow needs $14.3 billion from US taxpayers in order to continue its extensive bombing campaign throughout Gaza following the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack".

 

Add in lucrative revenue streams from Mediterranean NatGas fields and they've got plenty of their own cash.

 

 

I bet a lot of people will agree with this 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

They're children, they're going to remember the things that directly happened to them the bombs that went off, the parents, siblings, other family, and friends killed, homes destroyed, starvation, thirst, scramble for shelter, and the fear they're going to remember all those horrible things that directly happened to them way better than a story about horrible things that happened somewhere else right before these things started happening.

Oh no, they will remember what other people want them to remember...or something...

[Tiberius]

 

Ethnically cleansing in the West Bank 

 

Since Oct. 7, the U.N. agency said, “Israeli settler violence has increased significantly,” with 828 Palestinians displaced since then “amid settler violence or increased movement restrictions.”

In the days since Hamas attacked Israel, fueling anti-Muslim and anti-Arab sentiment in Israel and beyond, OCHA said it has recorded 171 attacks by Israeli settlers, 26 of them deadly. The figure does not include incidents of “harassment, trespass and intimidation” that did not involve killings or property damage, OCHA said, though those episodes, too, “increase the pressure on Palestinians to leave.”

In one incident two days after the Hamas attack, the herding community of Al Ganoub was raided by Israeli settlers, OCHA said. They threatened Palestinians at gunpoint, set living quarters ablaze and stole livestock, according to the agency, which cited local residents.

On Saturday, an Israeli settler shot and killed a Palestinian man who was harvesting olives, the Associated Press reported.

President Biden said last week that attacks by “extremist settlers” against Palestinians were worsening the conflict.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/01/israel-war-hamas-news-gaza-palestine/

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

48 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

They're children, they're going to remember the things that directly happened to them the bombs that went off, the parents, siblings, other family, and friends killed, homes destroyed, starvation, thirst, scramble for shelter, and the fear they're going to remember all those horrible things that directly happened to them way better than a story about horrible things that happened somewhere else right before these things started happening.

Sadly, if they don't remember the atrocities perpetrated by their government, and the pain and suffering that alining with Hamas (or other extremist factions in the area) brings, nothing will change.  Besides, it sure seems like the lessons of hate will not be new to this, or any generation of Gaza or Israel into the foreseeable future. 

 

Perhaps the hostages should be released, unconditionally, now? 

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

28 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh no, they will remember what other people want them to remember...or something..

 

20 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Since Oct. 7, the U.N. agency said, “Israeli settler violence has increased significantly,” with 828 Palestinians displaced since then “amid settler violence or increased movement restrictions.”

In the days since Hamas attacked Israel, fueling anti-Muslim and anti-Arab sentiment in Israel and beyond, OCHA said it has recorded 171 attacks by Israeli settlers, 26 of them deadly. The figure does not include incidents of “harassment, trespass and intimidation” that did not involve killings or property damage, OCHA said, though those episodes, too, “increase the pressure on Palestinians to leave.”

In one incident two days after the Hamas attack, the herding community of Al Ganoub was raided by Israeli settlers, OCHA said. They threatened Palestinians at gunpoint, set living quarters ablaze and stole livestock, according to the agency, which cited local residents.

On Saturday, an Israeli settler shot and killed a Palestinian man who was harvesting olives, the Associated Press reported.

President Biden said last week that attacks by “extremist settlers” against Palestinians were worsening the conflict.

 

So the Palestinians have a right to remember who did it, but not why.

 

but the Israeli civilians are supposed to forget and ignore the HAMAS slaughter of civilians on the 7th?

 

 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

To get them not to build nukes! 

 

What's your solution? War? 

 

You realize the hypocrisy of your statement, right?  

[Justice]

3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

 

 

So the Palestinians have a right to remember who did it, but not why.

 

but the Israeli civilians are supposed to forget and ignore the HAMAS slaughter of civilians on the 7th?

 

 

Why are you the way that you are? 

[Justice]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR7EarDJ/
 

These MFers look you square in the eye and lie to you. They’re hypocrites. They know they can do this because they know how stupid we are, how hateful we are, how distracted we are, how gullible we are. It’s sad. 
 

[Unforgiven]

5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Read this sentence earlier today which sums up nicely the Israeli aid mystery.  Mainly why do US taxpayers have to provide any funding to a wealthy and prosperous country to fight a war? 

 

"Israel, with GDP of almost half a trillion dollars and a debt-to-GDP ratio that is half of that of the United States, and a super-advanced military, still somehow needs $14.3 billion from US taxpayers in order to continue its extensive bombing campaign throughout Gaza following the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack".

 

Add in lucrative revenue streams from Mediterranean NatGas fields and they've got plenty of their own cash.

 

 

The whole world is grifting off the US and biden gets a cut of it all.

[Justice]

5 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Read this sentence earlier today which sums up nicely the Israeli aid mystery.  Mainly why do US taxpayers have to provide any funding to a wealthy and prosperous country to fight a war? 

 

"Israel, with GDP of almost half a trillion dollars and a debt-to-GDP ratio that is half of that of the United States, and a super-advanced military, still somehow needs $14.3 billion from US taxpayers in order to continue its extensive bombing campaign throughout Gaza following the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack".

 

Add in lucrative revenue streams from Mediterranean NatGas fields and they've got plenty of their own cash.

 

 

Maybe they’re holding Epstein’s evidence? Who knows. All I know is we bend over backwards for them at every turn. 

[Tenhigh]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

👆Same guy👇

 

 

Student debt forgiveness shifts debt from one  little guy to another, those statements aren't contradictory. 

5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

To get them not to build nukes! 

 

What's your solution? War? 

I love you buddy, you are one funny mofo.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Tenhigh

[reddogblitz]

On 10/31/2023 at 3:14 PM, Justice said:

2. Baab Al-Jihad “Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah. But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors” (Quran 2:193). Those Muslims who sacrificed their lives in the way of Islam through Jihad will enter Heaven from this gate.
 

Well for one the context of this must be put in its proper place. There is no compulsion in Islam. You can not kill people for the sake of making the survivors convert to Islam. Therefore this aspect of Jihad, and there are a few, is in regards of self defense.
 

If your attackers cease to attack you you aren’t permitted to continue the assault. You have to show mercy, ‘except against your oppressors’. This is obvious. If you’re being oppressed you have the right to fight for your rights and if you die doing so you are granted entry into heaven. 

The mistake Tommy Callahan made was calling all jihadis terrorists. 

 

Thank you.

 

So if so understand you correctly and if I'm wrong please correct me.  Since The Catastrophe, Palestinians have had the Allah given right to kill Israelis (any Isrealis) until such time as the Israelis stop oppressing them.

Edited November 1, 2023 by reddogblitz

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

Student debt forgiveness shifts debt from one  little guy to another, those statements aren't contradictory. 

So did that those tax cuts the rich benefited the most from… 

 

The right has their simps trained well.

 

 

[Justice]

5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Thank you.

 

So if so understand you correctly and if I'm wrong please correct me.  Since The Catastrophe, Palestinians have had the Allah given right to kill Israelis (any Isrealis) until such time as the Israelis stop oppressing them.

The key word is oppressors. Would you shower your oppressors with roses? Are you completely incapable of understanding what it is like to have your home taken away piece by piece? Trust me when I tell you if that ever happened here in the States we would not be nice to our oppressors. Matter of fact we’ve gone to other people’s countries (Iraq) to get rid of their oppressors. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

5 hours ago, Justice said:

The key word is oppressors. Would you shower your oppressors with roses? Are you completely incapable of understanding what it is like to have your home taken away piece by piece? Trust me when I tell you if that ever happened here in the States we would not be nice to our oppressors. Matter of fact we’ve gone to other people’s countries (Iraq) to get rid of their oppressors. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

[Tommy Callahan]

Hamas supporters nailed the place with their anti Israeli propaganda and conspiracies 

[ExiledInIllinois]

16 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Hamas supporters nailed the place with their anti Israeli propaganda and conspiracies 

You don't have to support Hamas to support The Palestinians. 

 

This didn't happen in a vacuum. 

 

Look inward Israel. 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

You don't have to support Hamas to support The Palestinians. 

 

This didn't happen in a vacuum. 

 

Look inward Israel. 

Nice talking points. Voltaire was a Racist and antisemite.  

 

and yes, Hamas also terrorizes the Palestinians.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So did you also support alquada after 9/11?  using the same narrative?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see The Houthi Terrorist attacked Israel.

 

And another Biden foreign policy disaster of appeasing terrorist comes back to bite.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/yemens-houthi-rebels-claim-attacks-israel-drawing-main-104514030

 

And just in 2021 old biden took them off the terrorist list. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/05/politics/us-houthis-terrorist-list/index.html

 

IDF claims to have broken through HAMAS front line and taken out a high value target.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12701401/Israel-breaks-Hamas-lines-satellite-images-tanks-deep-inside-Gaza.html

[Andy1]

The policy of encouraging and supporting land greedy settlers by the Israli government is insane. 
 

With respect to the war, societies across the world figure out how to live peacefully after brutal, vicious wars. It has happened in Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Rwanda, Uganda and I’m sure many other places. At some point, the desire for peace and stability becomes greater that the desire for revenge. In some people/cultures, forgiveness takes place as both sides move forward. That is what I hope for. I don’t know if there are any examples of that happening in Muslim cultures. 

[Precision]

19 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Read this sentence earlier today which sums up nicely the Israeli aid mystery.  Mainly why do US taxpayers have to provide any funding to a wealthy and prosperous country to fight a war? 

 

"Israel, with GDP of almost half a trillion dollars and a debt-to-GDP ratio that is half of that of the United States, and a super-advanced military, still somehow needs $14.3 billion from US taxpayers in order to continue its extensive bombing campaign throughout Gaza following the October 7 Hamas terrorist attack".

 

Add in lucrative revenue streams from Mediterranean NatGas fields and they've got plenty of their own cash.

 

 

Just to provide some clarity as most people can't put a half trillion dollars into context.....

 

Israel's GDP for 2023 was projected to be $564 billion which is less than Michigan.  Israel's GDP would rank them at 15th in US states and 29th among nations.  Per Reuters the war is costing Israel $248 million daily.

 

Israel to amend budget, Gaza war direct cost at $246 mln daily

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Precision]

Embarrassing to see someone from the Rochester area making national news.  Didn't know he was from Pittsford until I saw it on World News Tonight yesterday.

 

Cornell student accused of threatening to kill Jewish students will remain behind bars

 

[Tiberius]

This is absolutely disgusting bull sh it! Horrible, just stop! 

 

LONDON (Reuters) -In Los Angeles, a man screaming "kill Jews" attempts to break into a family's home. In London, girls in a playground are told they are "stinking Jews" and should stay off the slide. In China, posts likening Jews to parasites, vampires or snakes proliferate on social media, attracting thousands of "likes".

These are examples of incidents of antisemitism, which have surged globally since the attack by Hamas gunmen on southern Israel on Oct. 7 and subsequent war on the Islamist group launched by Israel in the Gaza Strip.

"This is the scariest time to be Jewish since World War Two. We have had problems before, but things have never been this bad in my lifetime," said Anthony Adler, 62, speaking outside a synagogue where he had gone to pray in Golders Green, a London neighbourhood with a large Jewish community.

https://news.yahoo.com/open-hatred-jews-surges-globally-141737707.html

 

Hate to quote Rodney King, but can't we all just get along? 

21 minutes ago, Precision said:

Just to provide some clarity as most people can't put a half trillion dollars into context.....

 

Israel's GDP for 2023 was projected to be $564 billion which is less than Michigan.  Israel's GDP would rank them at 15th in US states and 29th among nations.  Per Reuters the war is costing Israel $248 million daily.

 

Israel to amend budget, Gaza war direct cost at $246 mln daily

I imagne their economy will take a huge hit from this, too. All the soldiers called up, Palestianisn (20% of population) basically on lock down. Not great for productivity 

[Justice]

3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Hamas supporters nailed the place with their anti Israeli propaganda and conspiracies 

I hope you ain’t calling me no Hamas supporter. If you are then you have shown your true colors. It proves you’re the type of person that just hears whatever you want to hear. It means you can’t be talked to or reasoned with. It also means I’m gonna write your ass off just like I did Irv. Let me know if you’re insulting me so I know how to proceed with you. 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, Justice said:

I hope you ain’t calling me no Hamas supporter. If you are then you have shown your true colors. It proves you’re the type of person that just hears whatever you want to hear. It means you can’t be talked to or reasoned with. It also means I’m gonna write your ass off just like I did Irv. Let me know if you’re insulting me so I know how to proceed with you. 

I was referencing the narrative about" It's not in a vacuum, you must see the pre 10/7, or the entire history" Bs narrative.

 

If that was you posting it, then maybe.

 

if not, its not my fault you heard Hamas supporter and thought it meant you.

 

Imagine that narrative rolled out to other instances?

 

pearl harbor, Kosher cause we had embargos and were oppressing them.

 

9/11, all our fault. you know. colonialism and oppression.

 

its a broken argument that is supporting the terrorist,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Israel Releases Stunning Images Of Its War On Hamas: 11,000+ Terrorist Targets Hit; 326 IDF Soldiers Killed

by Ryan Saavedra

 

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Wednesday that it had struck more than 11,000 terrorist targets inside Gaza since Hamas launched an unprecedented terrorist attack against Israel back in early October. The IDF has lost some 326 soldiers — including 11 who were killed on Tuesday as the IDF moved through Gaza ridding the area of terrorists from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad — since the October 7 attack in which 1,400 Israelis were murdered, more than 5,300 were injured, and 220+ were kidnapped.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/israel-releases-stunning-images-of-its-war-on-hamas-11000-terrorist-targets-hit-326-idf-soldiers-killed

 

 

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[Tenhigh]

16 hours ago, BillStime said:

So did that those tax cuts the rich benefited the most from… 

 

The right has their simps trained well.

 

 

So you agree AND insult me in the same post?  You are truly classy. But your response after agreeing makes no sense. 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Tenhigh

[B-Man]

 

 

Breaking: Israel's Top General Says Troops Have Entered Gaza City

Amy Curtis 

 

 

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2023/11/02/breaking-israels-top-general-says-troops-have-entered-gaza-city-n2389315

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Good.  This gives me hope.

 

 

A public statement like that one was virtually impossible before Arab nations started signing bilateral peace agreements under the Trump/Pompeo/Kushner Abraham Accord — since dismissed as “tactics of the prior administration” by the Biden White House.

 

 

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