Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) This is not going to end well for anyone. Some of the scenes coming out of the region are just horrific. Civilians and soldiers hostages of Palestians and being paraded around. Saw a women get dragged around by her hair. Edited March 1 by Tiberius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) hamas will be crushed. they aren't doing the Palestinians any favors here. Edited October 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Orwell was such a visionary. Sad that he was correct about watching war in real time and cheering our side. Chilling scene that has come to fruition https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 So effed up. This is exactly why Hamas is a terrorist org. Stinks of Iran support with that 6 billion we just gave them The Israeli response will be severe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Tommy Callahan said: So effed up. This is exactly why Hamas is a terrorist org. Stinks of Iran support with that 6 billion we just gave them The Israeli response will be severe. Frankly, I think Israel is showing incredible restraint right now. If I were in charge I'd be tempted to just level Gaza and be done with it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, yall said: Frankly, I think Israel is showing incredible restraint right now. If I were in charge I'd be tempted to just level Gaza and be done with it. Give it 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 How long until clickservatives start complaining about all of the money we send to Israel to defend itself? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: How long until clickservatives start complaining about all of the money we send to Israel to defend itself? I think they're more likely to complain about the money we released to Iran, which likely funded a lot of this operation. I'm inclined to agree with them on that point. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, yall said: I think they're more likely to complain about the money we released to Iran, which likely funded a lot of this operation. I'm inclined to agree with them on that point. Bingo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I do think the Israel/Palestine conflict is complex, but tend to more align with the idea that Israel has a right to exist & defend themselves. Today might be a point where my nuance on the topic takes a backseat. The videos coming across social media.. that can’t/won’t be shown on American news stations, are brutal. This is a brazen terrorist attack on civilians. To see women being paraded around and stuffed into vehicles, likely heading to a fate worse than death, is hard to watch. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I do think the Israel/Palestine conflict is complex, but tend to more align with the idea that Israel has a right to exist & defend themselves. Today might be a point where my nuance on the topic takes a backseat. The videos coming across social media.. that can’t/won’t be shown on American news stations, are brutal. This is a brazen terrorist attack on civilians. To see women being paraded around and stuffed into vehicles, likely heading to a fate worse than death, is hard to watch. At it's core it's a turf war. Israel was given land and Palestinians want it back/more. No side will win. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 ? for the fundamentalists: Is this why you support Israel so enthusiastically? To bring on "End Times"? 26 minutes ago, SCBills said: I do think the Israel/Palestine conflict is complex, but tend to more align with the idea that Israel has a right to exist & defend themselves. Today might be a point where my nuance on the topic takes a backseat. The videos coming across social media.. that can’t/won’t be shown on American news stations, are brutal. This is a brazen terrorist attack on civilians. To see women being paraded around and stuffed into vehicles, likely heading to a fate worse than death, is hard to watch. Very bad stuff happens to both sides but more often to the Palestinians. Right now there have been 4X as many killed in today's war.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Those reservist that said they might not defend the nation if it becomes less democratic are, by all reports, showing up to fight. One wonders if this crisis goes on, will the religious exempt (many of them the settlers taking more land) decide to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Is that the infamous Vindman from the impeachment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Is that the infamous Vindman from the impeachment? Famous, you mean? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Is that the infamous Vindman from the impeachment? you mean the one who further showed the treachery of don the mobster? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Is that the infamous Vindman from the impeachment? Yup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: So effed up. This is exactly why Hamas is a terrorist org. Stinks of Iran support with that 6 billion we just gave them The Israeli response will be severe. yeah, maybe we shouldn't be sending billions to Israel... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: So effed up. This is exactly why Hamas is a terrorist org. Stinks of Iran support with that 6 billion we just gave them The Israeli response will be severe. wWasn’t this the funding the Whitehouse announced September 11th? idiots, just completely incompetent Edited October 7, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: wWasn’t this the funding the Whitehouse announced September 11th? idiots, just completely incompetent It wasn’t. But that doesn’t matter for people looking to push agendas. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It wasn’t. But that doesn’t matter for people looking to push agendas. You’re the only one on this one with an agenda… they are just stupid and didn’t realize what they are doing. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-allows-6-billion-transfer-part-iran-prisoner-swap-2023-09-11/#:~:text="To facilitate their release%2C the,where the funds will be Edited October 7, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: You’re the only one on this this one with an agenda… they are just stupid and didn’t realize what they are doing. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-allows-6-billion-transfer-part-iran-prisoner-swap-2023-09-11/#:~:text="To facilitate their release%2C the,where the funds will be It is fair to criticize the deal. It’s fair to point out that money is fungible. But $0 has been spent. None of it is in Iranian control. So the idea that it could have funded these attacks when *Iran does not currently have access to it* is a lie. So, in the end, people pushing the narrative that the money funded the attacks are indeed liars pushing an agenda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 ABC News breaks into college football to show clips of Biden’s remarks, followed by a statement that Israel was attacked by rockets, with footage of Israel blowing up a building in Gaza. That’s it. That was the report. Why is it that we are forced to turn to Twitter/X to get the full story of any big event? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: ABC News breaks into college football to show clips of Biden’s remarks, followed by a statement that Israel was attacked by rockets, with footage of Israel blowing up a building in Gaza. That’s it. That was the report. Why is it that we are forced to turn to Twitter/X to get the full story of any big event? Ya, and those wanting to see the football game were probably pissed they were even bothered with this foreign event, put the game back on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: ABC News breaks into college football to show clips of Biden’s remarks, followed by a statement that Israel was attacked by rockets, with footage of Israel blowing up a building in Gaza. That’s it. That was the report. Why is it that we are forced to turn to Twitter/X to get the full story of any big event? Because tv news sucks and only cares about ad spends. Actually reporting the news isn’t really a thing they are interested in doing. Infotainment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Energy Minister Israel Katz ordered Israel’s state-run electric company to cut power to Gaza after Saturday’s attacks. “I signed the order instructing the electric company to stop supplying electricity to the Gaza Strip. What was will not be,” Katz said in a statement posted on X. While there’s a power station in Gaza, it relies heavily on power from Israel. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/07/israel-gaza-rocket-attack-hamas/#link-F23ZAVTFTREYDMNCCL4CARNPXI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Tiberius said: Ya, and those wanting to see the football game were probably pissed they were even bothered with this foreign event, put the game back on! Im more speaking to the fact most of our mainstream news organizations have barely touched the surface on what occurred today. Very surface level reporting. One doesn’t truly understand what happened unless you’re sifting through verifiable video on Twitter. Same thing happened during the attempted revolt in Russia.. Twitter was hours ahead of mainstream media. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: It is fair to criticize the deal. It’s fair to point out that money is fungible. But $0 has been spent. None of it is in Iranian control. So the idea that it could have funded these attacks when *Iran does not currently have access to it* is a lie. So, in the end, people pushing the narrative that the money funded the attacks are indeed liars pushing an agenda. not pushing any narrative other than they are idiots for the timing of that announcement and the optics. It’s tone deaf. sorry to interrupt the Biden cheerleading…. as far as what other role our foreign policy has to do with this latest eruption, we’ll see 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Im more speaking to the fact most of our mainstream news organizations have barely touched the surface on what occurred today. Very surface level reporting. One doesn’t truly understand what happened unless you’re sifting through verifiable video on Twitter. Same thing happened during the attempted revolt in Russia.. Twitter was hours ahead of mainstream media. Totally agree. But twitter can report just about anything, the news media gets hammered if they do that and rumors turn out untrue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im more speaking to the fact most of our mainstream news organizations have barely touched the surface on what occurred today. Very surface level reporting. One doesn’t truly understand what happened unless you’re sifting through verifiable video on Twitter. Same thing happened during the attempted revolt in Russia.. Twitter was hours ahead of mainstream media. The media has an obligation to wait and be told how they are supposed to spin it by their respective establishments first. It takes time. I bet the White House hasn’t even had the conference call with the post and ny times press Corps to provide direction Edited October 7, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 And go where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 Gees, why was there an intelligence failure over this? Maybe lack of cooperation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Palestinians have been forced from their homes and treated like slaves in their own country for decades. How can there ever be peace? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share Posted October 7, 2023 This is in Israel. Won't last for long, I bet. Israel will declare martial law soon, I would guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This is in Israel. Won't last for long, I bet. Israel will declare martial law soon, I would guess they'll take pounds of flesh. pretty barbaric. it's the middle east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 https://x.com/jengriffinfnc/status/1710735779834593355?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ Fox News reporter tries to report facts and it seems to be upsetting the blue checkmarks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, Process said: Palestinians have been forced from their homes and treated like slaves in their own country for decades. How can there ever be peace? I really don’t know. But the targeting and kidnapping of civilians is never acceptable. It’d be one thing if they focused their attacks on military targets, but they are hurting their own cause with these attacks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Process said: Do you realize how many Palestinian woman and children Israel has killed over the years? Americans only get one side of the story. That's what happens when Jews control the news, social media, and Washington. The whole thing is unfortunate. Wow. Went straight to the antisemitism, huh? I think you dropped these, ((())) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Process said: Do you realize how many Palestinian woman and children Israel has killed over the years? Americans only get one side of the story. That's what happens when Jews control the news, social media, and Washington. The whole thing is unfortunate. We do. I believe the best place to start is attaching lots of strings to money we send to Israel. Like puppets...They have no self control without it and little decency. But kidnapping or killing civilians is bad and counterproductive. See Russia/Ukraine. btw, anti semitism isn't cool either. Edited October 7, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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