OT: if the Pats lose to the Jets - how hot is the seat for their HC?

[MRW]

33 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

it is difficult to take that power, it would be easily possible to cede that power. 

 

True, I just don't see Belichick as the kind of guy who would be willing to do that.

[billsfan89]

I think the Pats will beat the Jets but I think Billy B is safe for at least one or two more seasons. Even with a catastrophic 4-5 win season this year I think Kraft brings back the hoodie for one more season to attempt to right the ship. I think the Pats honestly aren't dead in the water. They played one of the top 3 teams in the NFC week 1 and were mostly within a score that whole game. They then played a good Fins team and once again were mostly within a score. 

 

I think the Pats will win 7-9 games this season. Their defense is really good, their ST unit is good and while their offense is bad they have some pieces on that offense like Stevenson who is a very good RB. The issue is most of their games against most competition are going to be one-score knuckleball-type games which are usually 50/50 affairs. So its going to be hard for them to get past a game above .500 that way unless they get insanely good luck which at 0-2 will only have to be more insane. 

 

TLDR: Billy B will be back in 2024 and likely 2025 if he wants to keep coaching. 

[Billznut]

This exact post comes out about every couple months on here for some strange reason. I’m just happy I don’t have to spend any more time worrying or thinking about Belichick. They are in the rear view and he will eventually be out of NE in the next couple years. That’s good enough for me. 

[That's No Moon]

3 hours ago, Einstein said:

They are  devoid of talent. 

 

 

Yeah, but that also falls on him. Do you think he'd accept a new GM coming in and losing player/personnel control? I don't.

[Thrivefourfive]

I wonder how deep old ass Kraft would have to dig to begin to put into motion a Bill Belichick replacement regime. Bill’s the guy at work to take on all the responsibility so nobody knows what the ***** is going on, so he can’t be replaced. I’m sure Kraft would prefer attending his Funeral: Bill Belichick, Head Coach of the New England Patriots. 

[Punching Bag]

6 hours ago, Process said:

BB the GM should have been fired a long time ago.

 

BB the coach is the only reason that team wins more than 4 games. 

 

Tough spot for the Cheats

 

Maybe Kraft will take away the GOAT Cheater's GM powers and then he will quit as coach due to it once he finds a position for his son on one of his disciples' teams.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

With the Jets and the Cowboys (both road games) as their next 2, the Pats have a very realistic chance of going 0-4. I believe they need to move on from Bellichick and accept that the era is over. Get rid of Mac Jones also who will never be more than a top tier backup. That whole roster needs to be gutted. 

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I think the Pats will beat the Jets

 

 

Say more about this, please

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Say more about this, please

 

Last year the Hoodie embarrassed Wilson. I have picked the Pats to win too. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

10 hours ago, Success said:

Belichick has almost become a myth here & around the league. Conventional wisdom is that his job is secure no matter what.

 

But Kraft has expressed frustration w/ the lack of playoff success since Brady left.  And the game does pass some of these legendary coaches by.  The vibe I get when I check in on the Pats boards is that things could get dicey if things go really south for that team. And an 0-3 start would almost be guaranteed to be an 0-4 start w/ Dallas next on their schedule

 

Could there be big changes in New England if this season end up w/ a losing record and another playoff miss?

 

You are late.

 

They were bums last year and they’ll be 4th place AFC-E again this year. Big bust Mac is not the answer and short of bitching at Ref’s calls 😂👍, Belicheat has appeared to be an out of control loser without answers.

 

It’s not easy at all, post Brady, something he’s cottoned on to.

 

 “On to the Nursing Home”.

[PromoTheRobot]

The Patriots are doomed as long as Belichick stays in some capacity. The local radio keeps talking about taking his player personnel duties away, but how is a GM supposed to do good job with the Hoodie looking over his shoulder? Pats need a clean break.

[RunTheBall]

I hope they keep both BB coach/GM and noodle arm whiner Mac Jones for many years so they can wallow in 7-10, 9-8 mediocrity for a decade

[NoSaint]

13 hours ago, MRW said:

 

True, I just don't see Belichick as the kind of guy who would be willing to do that.

nor do you see him as a guy that wants to quit or be fired a season or two before breaking the record I bet 

 

so something may have to give in that, even if mostly behind the scenes 

[Goin Breakdown]

I hate the jets more than any team right now. I hope they lose. 

[PBF81]

17 hours ago, Success said:

Belichick has almost become a myth here & around the league. Conventional wisdom is that his job is secure no matter what.

 

But Kraft has expressed frustration w/ the lack of playoff success since Brady left.  And the game does pass some of these legendary coaches by. 

 

I would argue that it hasn't "passed him by," but that he owes his historical career to Mo Lewis.  

 

I hope that he at least sent Mo a nice fruit basket at some point.  

 

 

17 hours ago, Success said:

Could there be big changes in New England if this season end up w/ a losing record and another playoff miss?

 

Not sure I ever see him being fired per se however.  I think if anything he and Kraft would very very discreetely discuss his "resgination" if it ever came to that, to the extent that it would appear to be genuine.  

 

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by PBF81

[dpberr]

BB should have retired when Brady left the Patriots and leave the question of who influenced their dynasty more forever unanswered.

 

I think he's in New England for as long as he wants. He (and Kraft) probably want that all-time victory title, but he's 31 victories away.  If the Patriots keep rolling out these 8-9 win seasons, that's a long time.  

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

They won't.  Belichick hates the Jets more than anything

[Success]

5 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

They won't.  Belichick hates the Jets more than anything

 

They barely beat the Jets in both games last year.  The 2nd game was tied 3-3 with under 10 seconds to go..

 

Belichick's hate vs. NY losing 14 in a row to the Pats and desperate to end that streak.  I give the Jets a chance, for sure.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

I remember a lot of people used to talk about how we'd just have to wait until the day Belichick retired before we could ever think about the division.  Feels like a long time ago.

[benderbender]

It's so weird how precipitously his winning percentage went down when teams started guarding their playbooks and having tighter security at practices.