GoBills808 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: The game wasn't lost on the relative qualities of the QB yesterday. It was lost on the fitness of the defenses. No it was more than that Our defensive injuries didn't cause Diggs and Sherfield to forget how to catch the football Nobody on this team outside Allen can perform in the clutch staff included 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 this is total horse poo when they say it's QB vs. QB. it never is. people who sell this story are only trying to make the story. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 What a bunch of over the top dramatic bull**** 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Point out where he is wrong. There are quite a few people here that don’t like hearing the truth. They love their excuses and safe place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I call BS. Mahommes has had every advantage over Allen. Coaching, offensive players, and in the past offensive line. Unfair comparison. That this needs to be pointed out is absurd. Mahommes was throwing to people wide open all game. Allen had to dodge pressure until someone got open. I agree, but his overall point is that none of that matters when you don't win. Allen had the most insane 4th quarter, clutch throw I've ever seen in my life. Diggs dropped it. Nobody cares. It doesn't exist. It's a ghost. Mahomes throwing to a wide open Kelce is the highlight plastered all over television today. The all-time great QB connecting with his all-time great TE. That highlight very well could have been Allen connecting with Diggs as the Bills go on to face the Ravens. But it's not.. It doesn't exist. Allen to Shakir at the pylon was better than any throw Mahomes has made in the playoffs, but it's a footnote in the Mahomes story, instead of a highlight in Allen's. 6 minutes ago, Process said: What a bunch of over the top dramatic bull**** It's not, at all, over dramatic. Go outside our fanbase. Allen is becoming a main character in the Mahomes story and it has nothing to do with Allen. That's the worst part. If nothing changes, we will look back at this as the biggest waste of talent in the history of the NFL.. How's that for over dramatic? Edited January 22 by SCBills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmfriedchicken Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Allen was better yesterday what killed us is what always kills us… coaches are level one thinkers and reactive You need to think about what the opposing coaches and theri scheme is going to be — so we ran the ball great 1h… it was obvious that reid and co would focus on stopping that so to stay one level of thinking ahead we need to run playaction or something… instead we ran the same plays, that kc was ready to stop, and wasted downs for no-gain finally adjustments were made on offense with 7 mins and down 3… but youre in the pressure cooker already same with defense.. out of the half they scored on 3 consecutive drives before he changed the scheme a bit and got some stuff its all reacting to what the other team is doing instead of playing a level ahead and getting in the other coach/teams head and be more predictive and counteractive usually when youre just reacting to something its too late These losses are 100 percent on the coach and i firmly believe if kc had mcd and we had reid it was be them on their third loss in four years in the playoffs Josh has shown he is just as good as mahomes in these big games 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I agree, but his overall point is that none of that matters when you don't win. It’s a pretty obvious point right that I’m sure you got before reading this guys article… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 My own eyes tell me that Josh Allen is superior to Mahomes. The difference is the coaching staff. Reid >>>>>>> McDummy, and that ain't changing anytime soon. KC simply has better coaches. 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) The Chiefs got to face practice squad level linebackers, a clearly injured CB1 who was never a CB1 in his career until 8 weeks ago and our CB3 with Travis Kelce and a peaking Rashee Rice, and MVS wildly outplayed Stefon Diggs. The Bills' best WR was Kalil Shakir. In fact he was the only WR that would have gotten a snap for KC yesterday. Everything else is just bull####. This was pure ***** luck. I don't know what happened to Diggs but absolutely NO ONE could have predicted his downfall. Edited January 22 by appoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I've already seen more than a few Chiefs fans say something to the effect of "I don't ever want to hear again that Allen is in the same conversation as Mahomes." I mean, whatever you say guys. It's not like there are 21 other guys on the field who can make a play and impact the outcome or anything. If it's only, strictly about W's and L's, Mahomes is the better QB. But who simplifies the game like that? Allen was better than Mahomes yesterday, and he was better in the 13 seconds game. Not by much - but the idea that Mahomes is better because his team wins these games is too uninformed for me. It's not an opinion I respect. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: I agree, but his overall point is that none of that matters when you don't win. Allen had the most insane 4th quarter, clutch throw I've ever seen in my life. Diggs dropped it. Nobody cares. It doesn't exist. It's a ghost. Mahomes throwing to a wide open Kelce is the highlight plastered all over television today. The all-time great QB connecting with his all-time great TE. That highlight very well could have been Allen connecting with Diggs as the Bills go on to face the Ravens. But it's not.. It doesn't exist. Allen to Shakir at the pylon was better than any throw Mahomes has made in the playoffs, but it's a footnote in the Mahomes story, instead of a highlight in Allen's. It's not, at all, over dramatic. Go outside our fanbase. Allen is becoming a main character in the Mahomes story and it has nothing to do with Allen. That's the worst part. If nothing changes, we will look back at this as the biggest waste of talent in the history of the NFL.. How's that for over dramatic? There's definitely some good points but I hate the constant comparison without context. Our team (around Josh) and coaching need serious improvement. Next year will be a bust, we need a mini rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, appoo said: The Chiefs got to face practice squad level linebackers, a clearly injured CB1 who was never a CB1 in his career until 8 weeks ago and our CB3 with Travis Kelce and a peaking Rashee Rice, and MVS wildly outplayed Stefon Diggs. The Bills' best WR was Kalil Shakir. In fact he was the only WR that would have gotten a snap for KC yesterday. Everything else is just bull####. This was pure ***** luck. I don't know what happened to Diggs but absolutely NO ONE could have predicted his downfall. It's amazing, right? New England was lucky for a decade. KC has been lucky for six years running. Somehow only teams like us have the aw shucks, ol' bad breaks.. Or maybe it's more than that and people who chalk things up to luck use it as a defense mechanism when they repeatedly come up short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Success said: I've already seen more than a few Chiefs fans say something to the effect of "I don't ever want to hear again that Allen is in the same conversation as Mahomes." I mean, whatever you say guys. It's not like there are 21 other guys on the field who can make a play and impact the outcome or anything. If it's only, strictly about W's and L's, Mahomes is the better QB. But who simplifies the game like that? Allen was better than Mahomes yesterday, and he was better in the 13 seconds game. Not by much - but the idea that Mahomes is better because his team wins these games is too uninformed for me. It's not an opinion I respect. I actually don't mind that. Mahomes is 28 and already one of the most accomplished QBs ever. He is in a tier of his own right now. What's hilarious is how the media constantly talk about josh needs to win a superbowl to be considered in the same tier as burrow and lamar, when neither of those guys have won jack ****. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 16 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: No it was more than that Our defensive injuries didn't cause Diggs and Sherfield to forget how to catch the football Nobody on this team outside Allen can perform in the clutch staff included The Chiefs offense miscued as well, including St Patrick. The difference is they were given other chances by the Bills defense, whilst the Chiefs defense tightened up once more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Only Bills fans care that we don't have WR's or Mahomes has a better system. The rest of the world only cares who won. Just like nobody cares about our injuries. History does not have the memory to remember Dawkins was blocked into Josh on that pass to Shakir. We didn't score. That's all history remembers. So we can have our own feelings as Bills fans and our own ways of how we see it, but it really shouldn't surprise anybody when people don't see it the same way. I know I'm the same way with other teams and the players they have. I do not have the time to properly evaluate every micro condition each player experiences then create a balanced mental scale to say this player is better vs that player despite not winning. It's who wins and loses. The rest fades away over time. Expecting different is silly. Edited January 22 by Mikie2times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 29 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Allen was the best player on the field yesterday. Bingo. Allen outplayed Mahomes yesterday. Mahomes just didn't have numerous drops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career.* * according to a google search I just did. That's truly phenomenal and shows what an absolute beast he is in the postseason.. unfortunately the only stat that really matters isn't so good. It's mind boggling that he's put up these numbers and has only played in one championship game and zero Super Bowls Edited January 22 by RobbRiddick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: It's amazing, right? New England was lucky for a decade. KC has been lucky for six years running. Somehow only teams like us have the aw shucks, ol' bad breaks.. Or maybe it's more than that and people who chalk things up to luck use it as a defense mechanism when they repeatedly come up short. I didn't say the past was unlucky. Maybe you could say that about last seasons game with the Bengals with everything that happened with the Bills. and yes injuries, but they also had an actively bad OLine by the end of the season. This year, yes, the Chiefs got ***** lucky with the Bills injuries and weird collapse of Stefon Diggs 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Only Bills fans care that we don't have WR's or Mahomes has a better system. The rest of the world only cares who won. Just like nobody cares about our injurie's. History does not have the memory to remember Dawkins was blocked into Josh on that pass to Shakir. We didn't score. That's all history remembers. So we can have our own feelings as Bills fans and our own ways of how we see it, but it really shouldn't surprise anybody when people don't see it the same way. I know I'm the same way with other teams and the players. I do not have the time to properly evaluate every micro condition each player experiences then create a balanced mental scale to say this player is better vs that player despite not winning. It's who wins and loses. The rest fades away over time. Expecting different is silly. Here's the thing - who cares about history or anyone. The ONLY thing I care about is this team and what I think about them. Also ***** Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 30 minutes ago, SCBills said: Absolute gut punch Short of Allen demanding we fire McDermott, I don’t ever believe these paragraphs will change This is crap. We're already writing history when Allen is only 27 years old? Give me a break. And Mahomes is great, but I don't think he's better than Allen. He just has better fortune. And even if Mahomes is slightly better - the team with the better QB doesn't always win. This doesn't have to be the way it is forever. At some point Allen is going to finally lead the Bills into the Super Bowl. He'll probably be in his early 30's, not quite as big a threat with his legs but still enough of one. And it will probably be with a different coaching staff. Andy Reid will be gone and the Chiefs will be good but not a birthright to the AFC Championship game. It will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, RobbRiddick said: Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career.* * according to a google search I just did. That's truly phenomenal and shows what an absolute beast he is in the postseason.. unfortunately the only stat that really matters isn't so good. It's mind boggling that he's put up these numbers and has only played in one championship game and zero Super Bowls A clear indictment of McD IMO. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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