starrymessenger Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Bingo. Allen outplayed Mahomes yesterday. Mahomes just didn't have numerous drops. At least two of those drops were guaranteed TDs. Cook and Diggs. Sherfield's was good for at least three points as well...oh wait 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I'm getting angrier at McDermott and Beane the more analysis that I read today. The only reason Allen is not talked about at the level of Mahomes is because of mistakes made by those two guys that have led to multiple devastating playoff losses. It's now two playoff games where Allen slightly edged out Mahomes' own great play, and still ended up losing at the end. It makes me sick to my stomach that the same people in charge of these failures are still going to be in charge next year. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career.* * according to a google search I just did. That's truly phenomenal and shows what an absolute beast he is in the postseason.. unfortunately the only stat that really matters isn't so good. It's mind boggling that he's put up these numbers and has only played in one championship game and zero Super Bowls If only he played that consistently in the regular season, we'd be having first round byes every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Honestly, I still don’t rule out this team moving on from McD this offseason because of one simple fact: The last 4 remaining coaches are all offensive minded, and I’m pretty sure that was the case last year as well. The focus and resources are the defense, we all know it. We all see it. KC focus and confidence is their offensive system, this lets them overcome the odds. I like McD, I respect McD, but this team is an offensive identity away from being a dynasty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I'm getting angrier at McDermott and Beane the more analysis that I read today. The only reason Allen is not talked about at the level of Mahomes is because of mistakes made by those two guys that have led to multiple devastating playoff losses. It's now two playoff games where Allen slightly edged out Mahomes' own great play, and still ended up losing at the end. It makes me sick to my stomach that the same people in charge of these failures are still going to be in charge next year. Allen also takes a lot of crap because of the turnovers which I think is massively overblown but the narrative is set. Josh said he is going to work on some stuff in the offseason to clear up some of those things. Imagine if he played at his playoff level for 80% of the regular season? Imagine the stats and the MVP awards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Mahomes does enough that you can't be better than him. You can only be AS GOOD. and that's a tall order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'm getting angrier at McDermott and Beane the more analysis that I read today. The only reason Allen is not talked about at the level of Mahomes is because of mistakes made by those two guys that have led to multiple devastating playoff losses. It's now two playoff games where Allen slightly edged out Mahomes' own great play, and still ended up losing at the end. It makes me sick to my stomach that the same people in charge of these failures are still going to be in charge next year. Pat Mahomes had 40 more passing yards on 16 less attempts. They punted once. Are we really gonna act like he was edged out by Allen last night? The better QB won again. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Einstein said: Bingo. Allen outplayed Mahomes yesterday. Mahomes just didn't have numerous drops. Mahomes also had an established, confident offensive system. Allen averaged 4.8 yards per pass, and most of our WRs have had a significant amount of sub-10 YPC games since Brady took over. Brady has big time potential, but I’m so curious to see what the issue with the passing game was. Edited January 22 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Allen averaged 4.8 yards per pass, and most of our WRs have had a significant amount of sub-10 YPC games since Brady took over. This is due to drops. If Sherfield caught 1 of his 2 drops, and Diggs caught his long drop, Allen's yards per pass goes from 4.8 to 7.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: The vaunted McD defense struck again! And using AJ Klein to cover Kelce lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 6 minutes ago, FireChans said: Pat Mahomes had 40 more passing yards on 16 less attempts. They punted once. Are we really gonna act like he was edged out by Allen last night? The better QB won again. Thank you for pointing out that the Bills defense was utter trash and the Bills skill players played substantially worse than their counterparts on the Chiefs. Like I said, Allen slightly edged out Mahomes' own play. There's no other explanation for why one offense and defense and special teams performing much better than the other should only win by 3 points. Only a superior QB could have that kind of equalizing effect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Allen wasn't even allowed to execute a passing offense last night. They spent the entire first half throwing screens and running, to keep the chiefs off the field because of our porous defense. It worked. THey kept doing it in the third and some into the fourth when it was well past expiration. Allen never even got a chance to cook. and a couple times when he balled out, he was failed by a 30 million dollar receiver and our very nice guy left tackle who i don't want to say anything bad about, because it's not like he got beat up all night. just the one time when he needed him not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: Pat Mahomes had 40 more passing yards on 16 less attempts. They punted once. Are we really gonna act like he was edged out by Allen last night? The better QB won again. Allen had more total yards. His biggest mistake was going for a TD to a wide open receiver. Mahomes MISSED wide open receivers twice, one for an easy TD. Allen had to carry his team. Mahomes didn't. Which is always the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: Pat Mahomes had 40 more passing yards on 16 less attempts. They punted once. Are we really gonna act like he was edged out by Allen last night? The better QB won again. Can someone explain to this troll how Mahomes was facing a depleted injury riddled Bills defense and Allen was facing a top 5 Chiefs defense, and Allen still outplayed Mahomes but only had less yards because of drops. I'm too tired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, HappyDays said: Thank you for pointing out that the Bills defense was utter trash and the Bills skill players played substantially worse than their counterparts on the Chiefs. Like I said, Allen slightly edged out Mahomes' own play. There's no other explanation for why one offense and defense and special teams performing much better than the other should only win by 3 points. Only a superior QB could have that kind of equalizing effect. I mean the Bills punted twice. Difference in the game came down to one possession. And the better QB won, again. Josh is a top 3 QB in the league. But the better passers have his number in the postseason. 0-4 vs Mahomes and Burrow. Phil Rivers was a great QB. Wasn’t as good as Big Ben, Brady, or Peyton. He lost to them often in the postseason. He should have won a ring. Let’s hope that there’s a bad year for the other big dogs in the conference and we get a chance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Honestly it's fine, all of this ***** just take it and put on the board, it's the offseason Josh sounded so frustrated that he had to stop practicing ready to get back at it wanting to keep how well he's throwing going and everything. This is the ***** that goes on the ceiling that keeps you up and gets you back looking at film and back working and maintaining the mechanics and working with your pass catchers. Nothing we can do about it just add it to the list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, FireChans said: I mean the Bills punted twice. Difference in the game came down to one possession. And the better QB won, again. Josh is a top 3 QB in the league. But the better passers have his number in the postseason. 0-4 vs Mahomes and Burrow. So you're going to make the argument that the QB is literally the only person on the offense responsible for what happens on offense? That's fine if you want to make that argument. But it's as wrong as 1+1=3. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Allen has proven to be a top tier NFL QB based on his postseason play alone. But unfortunately he plays in the same league as Mahomes and will always be second fiddle until he can win a playoff game against him. Also think the elephant in the room is Bengals/Joe Burrow who have proven they can beat the Chiefs in the playoffs and for me Burrow being 1B to Mahomes 1A is still the bigger conversation going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 44 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Point out where he is wrong. It’s a very 30,000 foot view opinion. It’s not even relevant when you think about it. Mahomes has a better OC and HC than Allen. Josh’s lethality is unmatched as evident by all his rushing/passing records. I think this kid has what it takes to be the next big time ESPN talking head though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: So you're going to make the argument that the QB is literally the only person on the offense responsible for what happens on offense? That's fine if you want to make that argument. But it's as wrong as 1+1=3. I’m going to make the argument that for whatever reason, the championship DNA of the Chiefs offense rose to the occasion last night, including their QB. I’m not saying that Josh had a bad game or is the reason we lost. I’m just saying the better QB won. Which is true. The better QB usually wins. It’s why having a really good QB matters. Josh had an excellent game on the ground. Passing left something to be desired, but there was lots of reasons for that, including the guy I absolutely hate in Trent Sherfield. FWIW, the better QB won last week too when Josh played Mason Rudolph. And the week before when Josh played Tua. Edited January 22 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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