PBF81 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Twitter, Facebook, Canadians, Instagram…….some things are so stupid it has to be declared a tie. LOL Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 So this thread very quickly became a trash Simms piece, while ignoring the tragedy and original post info. Come on people, do better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, klos63 said: So this thread very quickly became a trash Simms piece, while ignoring the tragedy and original post info. Come on people, do better. Eh.... Whole lotta binary thinking around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Gugny said: PPP says, “hold my beer.” I mean, it's probably the same group of people posting in both places. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Nope. Take a look at his past annual rankings of Taysom Hill among active QBs. He was a Zack Wilson truther too. Chris Simms QB expertise really comes down to "he nailed it with Josh Allen." Drew Lock, Zack Wilson, Taysom Hill.... maybe less so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 So is Bills Mafia gonna help out this family during this tragic time? I know they'd certainly appreciate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Hermes said: If Tua actually gave a damn he could easily donate more than 10k. He's just doing it for the optics like everyone else. Wow. Tua also could have kept the money in his pocket. Instead, he donated a large amount of money to what he deems a worthy cause while you sit at a keyboard criticizing the man, claiming to know his sinister motive for this good deed. Just incredible but make no mistake, it is my fault for being shocked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 It’s been a while but…this ***** place. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 hours ago, klos63 said: So this thread very quickly became a trash Simms piece, while ignoring the tragedy and original post info. Come on people, do better. Trashing him? I was defending the stupidity of Simms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Hate the Dolphins, but life matters so much more. Donation made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Trashing him? I was defending the stupidity of Simms... please accept my apology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 13 hours ago, chongli said: Like these on the Chiefs forum: https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=16968697&postcount=3500 https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=16970890&postcount=3551 Chiefs fans aren’t the classiest bunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) He’s saying he gets buried for negative takes, especially by that guy. And now Tua’s giving his family money and somehow that’s bad because the guy also had negative takes on Simms? It’s silly and definitely distasteful to bring that up now. At the end of the day it’s sports, and the guy may have been negative against Simms, but that was in defense of his favorite qb. Doesn’t really take a rocket scientist to see that of course Tua’s going to donate. The guy was always in Tua’s corner, so now Tua is in his corner. Do I want Simms head on a platter, nah. He’s still human, he’s allowed to have feelings. But he shows a real lack of awareness and humanity here. Could definitely see some form of discipline, and I think that’s appropriate. But I can see this going very poorly because people love the power that comes with canceling people. Especially people that may not look too favorably at your favorite nfl team. Edited June 9, 2023 by Bobby Hooks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Nope. Take a look at his past annual rankings of Taysom Hill among active QBs. What? Do you know how to take things in context? You are debating a FOOTBALL OPINION, what I was addressing was Chris Sims being flamed over allegedly what he said about the Tua donation after a tragic loss, in the case is is basic human decency and common sense? Can you comprehend the difference. Whatever Simms football opinions are irrelevant when we are talking about his reaction to the Miami fan tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Wow. Tua also could have kept the money in his pocket. Instead, he donated a large amount of money to what he deems a worthy cause while you sit at a keyboard criticizing the man, claiming to know his sinister motive for this good deed. Just incredible but make no mistake, it is my fault for being shocked. Never once did I imply that Tua has a 'sinister motive', as you describe. So please do not put words in my mouth. I'm glad that Tua donated to this man's family, it's the least he could do for someone who dedicated his life to being a 'Tua superfan' That being said, while I understand that 10k seems like a lot of money to the average person and it can surely help a lot in most instances, (I would imagine that money will help in part to cover funeral costs, but in all likelihood won't be enough to cover all of them) The comparison to an average person(who makes 50k/year) would be donating $100. If someone was a superfan of mine including defending me to my most ardent detractors and others on the internet. I would more than likely donate more than .2% of my annual income to their family. That's just me. What's actually incredible is that someone has an opinion that you disagree with and you're shocked about it. Edited June 10, 2023 by Hermes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, haroldwaide said: So is Bills Mafia gonna help out this family during this tragic time? I know they'd certainly appreciate it. Let’s help one of our own! https://www.gofundme.com/f/donate-to-help-cindy-maurer?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_location=DASHBOARD&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer Born, raised and lived in Buffalo. Huge die hard Bills fan. He was only 36. One of the most kind hearted people I’ve ever known. He went out of his way to help others all the time. The type of guy who would give you the shirt off his own back. Edited June 9, 2023 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What? Do you know how to take things in context? You are debating a FOOTBALL OPINION, what I was addressing was Chris Sims being flamed over allegedly what he said about the Tua donation after a tragic loss, in the case is is basic human decency and common sense? Can you comprehend the difference. Whatever Simms football opinions are irrelevant when we are talking about his reaction to the Miami fan tragedy. Context was: “Simms is to smart a guy” to say something stupid. I disagreed with the premise you based your comment on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 20 hours ago, klos63 said: So this thread very quickly became a trash Simms piece, while ignoring the tragedy and original post info. Come on people, do better. Haven't you noticed this forum functions, mostly, as a place where strangers can argue with one another? The actual football end of things is rather minor in comparison. Hell, there isn't much Bills news this time of year anyway. People will argue here about anything, for pages. It's what makes this place fairly toxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Dang. Killed in a car accident... with all the safety features and airbags these days, that must have been one freaky accident. RIP Dolphins fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 I donated $25 because why not? At the end of the day, we’re all out here rooting for laundry, and dude loved his team, without a single Super Bowl victory…. God speed, fellow football maniac. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, boater said: Dang. Killed in a car accident... with all the safety features and airbags these days, that must have been one freaky accident. RIP Dolphins fan. 43,000 Americans died last year in car wrecks. That’s 1.35 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT). 25 years ago (1998): 41,500 deaths or 1.58 per 100million VMT. So, better, but not by a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stevestojan said: 43,000 Americans died last year in car wrecks. That’s 1.35 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT). 25 years ago (1998): 41,500 deaths or 1.58 per 100million VMT. So, better, but not by a ton. Wow.. surprises me… Australian motor vehicle fatalities are about a third of what they were in the 1980’s even with a much larger population now… Edited June 10, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Wow.. surprises me… Australian motor vehicle fatalities are about a third of what they were in the 1980’s even with a much larger population now… Well, mid 80’s (in particular, 1985) it was 44,000 deaths and deaths per 1MM miles was 2.47. So, from then to 2022, a decrease of 45% when measured in miles driven (which is the best way of course due to population growth and variances in total driving). Source: well, the internet, but I also worked in insurance for 17 years and dealt with so many fatal accidents that I started to become numb to them. Wasn’t great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hermes said: Never once did I imply that Tua has a 'sinister motive', as you describe. Nor did I criticize him. So please do not put words in my mouth. I'm glad that Tua donated to this man's family, it's the least he could do for someone who dedicated his life to being a 'Tua superfan' >>>>Well, yeah.. virtue signaling is all the rage now. How else can the world know I'm better than you if I don't donate to these random people and tell you that you're a scumbag if you don't. If Tua actually gave a damn he could easily donate more than 10k. He's just doing it for the optics like everyone else. <<<< The above is your quote. I am not by any means "putting words in your mouth." I would never do that nor would I have any desire to do so. I will however say that I am in fact sorry for responding to such drivel, and I wish you well. Edited June 10, 2023 by Bill from NYC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: >>>>Well, yeah.. virtue signaling is all the rage now. How else can the world know I'm better than you if I don't donate to these random people and tell you that you're a scumbag if you don't. If Tua actually gave a damn he could easily donate more than 10k. He's just doing it for the optics like everyone else. <<<< The above is your quote. I am not by any means "putting words in your mouth." I would never do that nor would I have any desire to do so. I will however say that I am in fact sorry for responding to such drivel, and I wish you well. You're right. I did criticize him. I also virtue signaled in my response too. Just a nice double entendre of internet hypocrisy, while I dig my heals in further in what might end up being a bad take Edited June 10, 2023 by Hermes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Hermes said: Never once did I imply that Tua has a 'sinister motive', as you describe. So please do not put words in my mouth. I'm glad that Tua donated to this man's family, it's the least he could do for someone who dedicated his life to being a 'Tua superfan' That being said, while I understand that 10k seems like a lot of money to the average person and it can surely help a lot in most instances, (I would imagine that money will help in part to cover funeral costs, but in all likelihood won't be enough to cover all of them) The comparison to an average person(who makes 50k/year) would be donating $100. He didn't have to donate anything and 10k should be more than enough to cover funeral costs. Props to Tua. He still has a noodle arm though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He didn't have to donate anything and 10k should be more than enough to cover funeral costs. Props to Tua. He still has a noodle arm though. Matt Barkley has a noodle arm … tua isn’t upper echelon but he isn’t weak sauce like Barkley or chase daniels he’s a notch above noodle arm objectively Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Matt Barkley has a noodle arm … tua isn’t upper echelon but he isn’t weak sauce like Barkley or chase daniels he’s a notch above noodle arm objectively I was joking. He has an average arm for a starter. He's not a good deep ball thrower though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: I was joking. He has an average arm for a starter. He's not a good deep ball thrower though. I fully understand you bro ✌️✌️ And he definitely isn’t above average for nfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: He didn't have to donate anything and 10k should be more than enough to cover funeral costs. Props to Tua. He still has a noodle arm though. He didn't. He also could have donated anonymously and had potentiailly the same impact on the late man's family. (Although his donation may have spurred others to do the same). Tua has undoubtedly had more of a positive impact on the lives of other people through his donations and charitable works than myself. In this instance I am of the opinion that he could have done more. It's too bad for him that at this point his brain is made of pudding and he plays for the Dolphins. Otherwise he seems like a great guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hermes said: He didn't. He also could have donated anonymously and had potentiailly the same impact on the late man's family. (Although his donation may have spurred others to do the same). Tua has undoubtedly had more of a positive impact on the lives of other people through his donations and charitable works than myself. In this instance I am of the opinion that he could have done more. It's too bad for him that at this point his brain is made of pudding and he plays for the Dolphins. Otherwise he seems like a great guy. In this case it was a gofundmepage and the donations exploded after Tua donated 10 grand. Rich people donating to charity has always been damned if you do, damned if you don't because there's people like you who will always criticize said person no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: In this case it was a gofundmepage and the donations exploded after Tua donated 10 grand. Rich people donating to charity has always been damned if you do, damned if you don't because there's people like you who will always criticize said person no matter what. I was actually thinking that. If he hadn't donated anything it definitely would've been bad look, especially if some reporter asked questions about it. I'm happy this man's family is getting so much support from the community. I don't necessarily believe his standing as a superfan makes his family more or less worthy to recieve these donations than others left in similar situations and I also don't believe there's anything inherently good or bad about Tua for donating. He did what he was 'supposed' to do given his standing in society and the way he'd be viewed for his actions. It doesn't personally affect me in any way so my biases towards the Dolphins lead me to view Tua in a less positive light in this situation. It's my opinion that he doesn't particularly care and did what he was 'obligated' to do by our societal standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 11, 2023 Author Share Posted June 11, 2023 Contributions to TuAnon founder’s family exceed $100,000 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/06/10/contributions-to-tuanon-founders-family-exceed-100000/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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