A really good read on Damien Harris

[PrimeTime101]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bills-rb-damien-harris-the-stars-just-aligned-to-sign-with-buffalo/ar-AA1bGbEE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=195e4175e00d412499a7d57e37bfe848&ei=11

 

"" feel like the stars just aligned," Harris said on One Bills Live. "I say that with all the history I have here

in Orchard Park, not having to go too far, staying in the division. You know, it almost felt like the stars just

aligned for me to be here. Once the deal was done, I felt very fortunate to be joining another great organization."

 

"I'm familiar with all the teams in our division, playing against these teams multiple times," Harris said.

"I definitely think that factored into what brought me here. We keep going back to it but the familiarity

with me playing here, playing against the Bills and just how those games went and how I played and so

on and so forth. I think that all of that together was all a part of the plan and ultimately led me here."

 

Don't sleep on Harris  

Edited May 25, 2023 by PrimeTime101

[BruceVilanch]

I'm very excited to see our backfield with him and Cook. Just hope he can stay healthy.

[PrimeTime101]

1 minute ago, BruceVilanch said:

I'm very excited to see our backfield with him and Cook. Just hope he can stay healthy.

I am actually shocked at his numbers. Take out his 2 unhealthy year.. and just focus on 2021. His PFF numbers were in the TEENS. If he gets back to that form? wow...

With a really nice one year prove it and we will take care of you type of deal? We should see Harris's 1000% out there. 

[NewEra]

As a bama hater, I’ve always hated Harris.  Then he goes to the pats and saves his best games for the Bills. More hate!!  
 

that said, I think he’s a perfect compliment to cook.  There are better backs for sure, but for the price and the style he plays, I think we hit a home run with his downhill ability.  Just stay healthy. 

[Rc2catch]

I have had very few players I liked on in division teams. 
Always been a fan of Gesicki and of course he jumped from one rival to another. 
I liked Edelmans game despite him being a pretty big villain on here. 
I like a lot of the Jets recent draft picks.. 
Harris was high on the list as well. Just absolutely punished Buffalos defense multiple times. You got to respect a runner like him who has some finesse but also the ability to just run people over. I didn’t think he would even be a possibility for Buffalo so I’m very excited to see him establish a role in the offense. Health is obviously his biggest issue but he’s clearly not the centerpiece to the run game like he was in New England sometimes. 

[PrimeTime101]

@TheWeatherMan

 

Oh how cute, you are trolling me with laughs on my posts. so cute. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Hoping they use him enough to take some rushing yards from Josh and provide a little more of a physical offense at times.

[PrimeTime101]

28 minutes ago, NewEra said:

As a bama hater, I’ve always hated Harris.  Then he goes to the pats and saves his best games for the Bills. More hate!!  
 

that said, I think he’s a perfect compliment to cook.  There are better backs for sure, but for the price and the style he plays, I think we hit a home run with his downhill ability.  Just stay healthy. 

to the bolded. is this so much to ask? 

[NewEra]

19 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

to the bolded. is this so much to ask? 

Lol.  Maybe 😔 

[PrimeTime101]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Lol.  Maybe 😔 

i mean seriously, it is sad that the only mark against him is that he has missed significant time do to injury. Bad luck or injury prone?

[The Jokeman]

I was high on him the year he was drafted as felt he was under used at Alabama and felt he be a better pro. Injuries are about the only thing that to me has held him back, hopefully he puts them behind him this and adds to a running game that hope to be much improved this season. 

[PrimeTime101]

6 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Lol.  Maybe 😔 

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/damien-harris/10215

 

this may suggest injury prone do to repeat injuries in 2 different parts of body.  or,, because it is only 1 repeat it could suggest that he has just been unlucky?

[TheWeatherMan]

54 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I am actually shocked at his numbers. Take out his 2 unhealthy year.. and just focus on 2021. His PFF numbers were in the TEENS. If he gets back to that form? wow...

With a really nice one year prove it and we will take care of you type of deal? We should see Harris's 1000% out there. 

Of the 3 years he played meaningful time, you want to discount 2 of them?  Okay let’s look at his one WOW season 2021:  202/929 avg 4.6.  Guess who also averaged 4.6 YPC in 2021?  Yep, Motor did and it was a below average season (career avg is 4.7 YPC).  James Cook as the Bills #2 RB averaged 4.7 YPC on over 500 yards. Statistically speaking, Harris is a downgrade from Motor in both the running and passing attack, and he struggles to stay healthy.  I’m failing to see anything to be “wow”d about or a reason to think we shouldn’t sleep on him.  IMHO James Cook is our clear #1 and I don’t see much separation between Murray and Harris for #2. 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

i mean seriously, it is sad that the only mark against him is that he has missed significant time do to injury. Bad luck or injury prone?

I don’t recall the nature of his injuries, but he was healthy for the most part in college iirc.  I think it’s great that health is the only

mark against him.  1.77M 😂 

[PrimeTime101]

5 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Of the 3 years he played meaningful time, you want to discount 2 of them?  Okay let’s look at his one WOW season 2021:  202/929 avg 4.6.  Guess who also averaged 4.6 YPC in 2021?  Yep, Motor did and it was a below average season (career avg is 4.7 YPC).  James Cook as the Bills #2 RB averaged 4.7 YPC on over 500 yards. Statistically speaking, Harris is a downgrade from Motor in both the running and passing attack, and he struggles to stay healthy.  I’m failing to see anything to be “wow”d about or a reason to think we shouldn’t sleep on him.  IMHO James Cook is our clear #1 and I don’t see much separation between Murray and Harris for #2. 

I did not say discount. I said, lets look at his good year he had. First year and last year he was riddled with injuries.  You going to ignore the fact that he missed 12 games concerning the 2 years I am refering to ? and how he talked about, especially last year not getting to 100%?

 

Did anyone say he should be our #1 guy? You just like putting words into peoples mouths don't you? 

 

Motor never had ONE year as good as Harris had per pff. 

Edited May 25, 2023 by PrimeTime101

[TheWeatherMan]

5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I did not say discount. I said, lets look at his good year he had. First year and last year he was riddled with injuries.  You going to ignore the fact that he missed 12 games concerning the 2 years I am refering to ? and how he talked about, especially last year not getting to 100%?

 

Did anyone say he should be our #1 guy? You just like putting words into peoples mouths don't you? 

 

Motor never had ONE year as good as Harris had per pff. 

You lost me at “per PFF”.  

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I did not say discount. I said, lets look at his good year he had. First year and last year he was riddled with injuries.  You going to ignore the fact that he missed 12 games concerning the 2 years I am refering to ? and how he talked about, especially last year not getting to 100%?

 

Did anyone say he should be our #1 guy? You just like putting words into peoples mouths don't you? 

 

Motor never had ONE year as good as Harris had per pff. 

Didn’t take long to figure out who you were talking about. Do yourself a favor and put him on ignore.  No reason to waste your time with that bro. 

[GETTOTHE50]

my favorite FA signing. hopefully the oline brings the same attitude he does to the run game.

[Pabstblueribbon]

37 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Of the 3 years he played meaningful time, you want to discount 2 of them?  Okay let’s look at his one WOW season 2021:  202/929 avg 4.6.  Guess who also averaged 4.6 YPC in 2021?  Yep, Motor did and it was a below average season (career avg is 4.7 YPC).  James Cook as the Bills #2 RB averaged 4.7 YPC on over 500 yards. Statistically speaking, Harris is a downgrade from Motor in both the running and passing attack, and he struggles to stay healthy.  I’m failing to see anything to be “wow”d about or a reason to think we shouldn’t sleep on him.  IMHO James Cook is our clear #1 and I don’t see much separation between Murray and Harris for #2. 

 

I agree, I think Cook will be our #1. The real question is "Will Harris be better able to spell Cook and pick up short yardage than Z.Moss was?". I think the answer is clear here as well. 

[PrimeTime101]

38 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

You lost me at “per PFF”.  

im shocked.... 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

I think this is the best Bills backfield since we had Fred Jackson and Marshawn Lynch as a tandem.

 

If Damien Harris stays healthy and our new guards play well, I think our offense will have a new level of physicality and we won't need to depend on Josh running as much 

[machine gun kelly]

I agree, but as far as health we don’t have to run Harris or Murray into the ground.  Cool and maybe Hines with an off season will be impactful as they showed lots of glimpses.

 

I don’t want to underestimate what this team could look like without turnstiles for Guards.  McGovern and Mount O Cyrus could be exactly what we needed as Brown has finally an off season with no COVID, no final college season, no neck and back injuries, so let’s pray he uses that raw power with what Kroger is teaching him to make a stellar line.  It’s possible.

 

as Jimmy Conway said in Goodfellas, “It’s gonna be a good summa!”

[RoyBatty is alive]

I clicked on that story and went to the "related video" with Greg Cosell had some very interesting comments on our new potential MLB Dorian Williams. He said he liked the tape on him and the pick.  Mentioned we moved on from Tremaine Edmonds who was large and targeted a smaller quicker replacement as in Williams.  Interesting, I wonder if that is all true and the was actually the Bill strategy of how it just worked out.

[K-9]

If he stays healthy, he makes a difference. Simple as that. 

4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I clicked on that story and went to the "related video" with Greg Cosell had some very interesting comments on our new potential MLB Dorian Williams. He said he liked the tape on him and the pick.  Mentioned we moved on from Tremaine Edmonds who was large and targeted a smaller quicker replacement as in Williams.  Interesting, I wonder if that is all true and the was actually the Bill strategy of how it just worked out.

Smaller, quicker, and twice the instincts. McD will defer to the veterans on the depth chart in the offseason like he always does, but come game one, I expect Williams will he the starting mike next to Milano.

[Sharky7337]

I don't need to read how he crippled my fantasy teams one year lol

[Southern_Bills]

He's a good dude. Probably could have been drafted earlier if he came out a year earlier but stayed because he wanted to be the senior RB for Alabama and a team captain.

 

Natural leader who plays the right way and does the right things off the field because it's the right thing.

 

Obviously all of that is irrelevant if he can't play ball, but when you can play ball and do those things it can have a net positive effect on the locker room.

 

Glad he's a Bill.

[PrimeTime101]

5 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said:

I don't need to read how he crippled my fantasy teams one year lol

lol

6 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

He's a good dude. Probably could have been drafted earlier if he came out a year earlier but stayed because he wanted to be the senior RB for Alabama and a team captain.

 

Natural leader who plays the right way and does the right things off the field because it's the right thing.

 

Obviously all of that is irrelevant if he can't play ball, but when you can play ball and do those things it can have a net positive effect on the locker room.

 

Glad he's a Bill.

100% agree

[RoyBatty is alive]

7 minutes ago, K-9 said:

If he stays healthy, he makes a difference. Simple as that. 

Smaller, quicker, and twice the instincts. McD will defer to the veterans on the depth chart in the offseason like he always does, but come game one, I expect Williams will he the starting mike next to Milano.

Beane went out of his way earlier talking about Williams that he played some MLB in college but MLB calls the defensive assignments and will have a lot to learn a lot.   It will come down to how smart and motivated Williams is, from what I know of him and heard him, he is smart and highly motivated.

I wonder if Cosell's comments were accurate and if the Bills moved on from Tremaine and had targeted Williams as an heir apparent.  If so, bills got very lucky in this draft with the top 3 picks.

[Success]

With the addition of Harris, the improvements to the line, and Cook coming into his 2nd year - I think people are going to be shocked at how improved our run game is. I think we'll win a few games based more on running than passing.

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

11 minutes ago, Success said:

With the addition of Harris, the improvements to the line, and Cook coming into his 2nd year - I think people are going to be shocked at how improved our run game is. I think we'll win a few games based more on running than passing.

 

 

I agree,  and you know what opens up when the run game gets better? Better passing game. 

[TheWeatherMan]

16 minutes ago, Success said:

With the addition of Harris, the improvements to the line, and Cook coming into his 2nd year - I think people are going to be shocked at how improved our run game is. I think we'll win a few games based more on running than passing.

 

 

As long as Josh isn’t our best running option especially in short yardage I’ll be happy as a clam.  

[Haslett_Stomp]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Beane went out of his way earlier talking about Williams that he played some MLB in college but MLB calls the defensive assignments and will have a lot to learn a lot.   It will come down to how smart and motivated Williams is, from what I know of him and heard him, he is smart and highly motivated.

I wonder if Cosell's comments were accurate and if the Bills moved on from Tremaine and had targeted Williams as an heir apparent.  If so, bills got very lucky in this draft with the top 3 picks.

 

Tulane's acceptance rate is below 10% so not too worried about his intelligence, even if they lowered the standards for athletes.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

@TheWeatherMan

 

Oh how cute, you are trolling me with laughs on my posts. so cute. 

Hilarious.  
 

I bet if you go through my post history and look at the eye roll emojis-  out of maybe 500 total eye rolls, 475 of them would be him.

[TheWeatherMan]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Hilarious.  
 

I bet if you go through my post history and look at the eye roll emojis-  out of maybe 500 total eye rolls, 475 of them would be him.

476/501

[RoyBatty is alive]

22 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

Tulane's acceptance rate is below 10% so not too worried about his intelligence, even if they lowered the standards for athletes.

I went to graduate school there, it is not a sports driven division 1 school but great athletes are certainly given some leeway but it is not like a "sports"  degree from LSU or Georgia.

 

In interviews he sounds very intelligent and his story about the Bills mafia buying him lunch is tremendous.  Apparently he was at a restaurant and some Bills fans paid for his meal saying someday he might be a part of the Bills.   Random fans picking up Tulane athlete tabs doesn't happen very often.  What a great story.  I would love to know what restaurant he was at.

[DaggersEOD]

Just keeping him off the Pats/Jets/Fish is a win as far as I’m concerned. 
 

The dude just abused us every time he played against us. 
 

He can ride the pine all year and I won’t GAF as long as I don’t see him running over our D play after play. 
 

Edited May 25, 2023 by DaggersEOD
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[KCNC]

They guy runs with attitude, which I really like.  I liked DS too but I think Harris pass pro is better.

[hondo in seattle]

6 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Of the 3 years he played meaningful time, you want to discount 2 of them?  Okay let’s look at his one WOW season 2021:  202/929 avg 4.6.  Guess who also averaged 4.6 YPC in 2021?  Yep, Motor did and it was a below average season (career avg is 4.7 YPC).  James Cook as the Bills #2 RB averaged 4.7 YPC on over 500 yards. Statistically speaking, Harris is a downgrade from Motor in both the running and passing attack, and he struggles to stay healthy.  I’m failing to see anything to be “wow”d about or a reason to think we shouldn’t sleep on him.  IMHO James Cook is our clear #1 and I don’t see much separation between Murray and Harris for #2. 

 

YPC isn't a good barometer of RB talent.  If it was, we'd have to conclude that Motor was a better back than Joe Cribbs, Fred Jackson, Cookie Gilchrist, Shady McCoy, Thurman Thomas, and any other RB who suited up for the Bills over the past sixty-something years other than OJ.  He wasn't.

 

The Bills O had only one cannon in Motor's years and that was Josh Allen.  And defenses lined up to stop that one cannon.  How many yards did Motor get against Nickel and Dime defenses?  How many times did linebackers start dropping into zone coverage on plays where Josh ended up handing off to Motor?   When you line up as RB for the Josh Allen-led Buffalo Bills, you're an afterthought.  Defenses don't care about you.  Motor wasn't even our most fearsome runner.  When Josh and Motor set up in the backfield together, defenses were more worried about Josh running than Motor.  

 

For the past three years, Harris played in a far more balanced offense.  Defenses actually respected the Pats run game.  They didn't much respect NE's passing attack.  So Harris didn't run against the same defenses that Motor did.  Not even close.  

 

Furthermore, Harris is a different kind of back than Motor.  Harris is strong up the middle and that's something we've needed.  And he's got some speed, too, and a bit of elusiveness. 

 

Harris was a great signing.

 

 

[PrimeTime101]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

Hilarious.  
 

I bet if you go through my post history and look at the eye roll emojis-  out of maybe 500 total eye rolls, 475 of them would be him.

make that 476

[chongli]

9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

with what Kroger is teaching him

 

Kroger teaches:

 

 

[Sorry...I had to do it! Didn't realize Florida had them. 😄 ]