Nephilim17 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 When the team is doing well and/or exceeding general expectations, as it has done the past few years, minus, probably, last season, this question is kind of moot. But if and when the team is not meeting expectations or things get complicated, is there anyone in Pegula's circle of friends or trusted business associates (at arm's length from Bills operations) who he can turn to for advice and counsel on questions related to extensions, evaluations, or possible firings? I'm not trying to be negative; I hope McBean lead us to multiple championships... but if things don't go as well as we hope — and with an elite QB things should mean serious contention for a Super Bowl — is Terry on his own or who advises him? Pegula seems, obviously, like a sharp businessman, but he doesn't strike me as a football expert. Maybe I'm wrong but I expect him to turn to someone if and when he needs to make tough decisions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: When the team is doing well and/or exceeding general expectations, as it has done the past few years, minus, probably, last season, this question is kind of moot. But if and when the team is not meeting expectations or things get complicated, is there anyone in Pegula's circle of friends or trusted business associates (at arm's length from Bills operations) who he can turn to for advice and counsel on questions related to extensions, evaluations, or possible firings? I'm not trying to be negative; I hope McBean lead us to multiple championships... but if things don't go as well as we hope — and with an elite QB things should mean serious contention for a Super Bowl — is Terry on his own or who advises him? Pegula seems, obviously, like a sharp businessman, but he doesn't strike me as a football expert. Maybe I'm wrong but I expect him to turn to someone if and when he needs to make tough decisions. he turns to people definitely smarter than you. Settled? 1 1 5 10 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 There’s firms and stuff owners hire. Ive said this before though, don’t expect McDermott to be fired after 1 losing season. It’s going to take multiple losing seasons. And I’ll add my opinion. The Bills would be absolutely stupid to think about firing McDermott until they have a losing season. 10 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 His God Have we reached peak off-season yet with this thread? Probably not 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) I have no idea but he seems more on the conservative side that it'll take at least two losing seasons to fire McDermott and Beane imo. They've both built up enough of a successful tenure here so far to deserve that long of a leash imo. I think that both would be fired at the same time (unlike Ryan and Whaley) if he were to ever make that move. Edited May 18 by Doc Brown 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Look, I trust you. Terry and I talk occasionally. He found me here on the board and saw something in me. So, when he needs advice about beane and McDermott he calls me. I don't charge him anything. 1 1 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 He turns to the record 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Jeff Littmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) He calls Russ Brandon of course he's been running the Bills for the last 23 years Edited May 18 by Starr Almighty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 He doesn't seek counsel from anyone. Terry makes decisions. He hired Rex against advice. He fired him (and indeed almost fired him after 1 season). He hired McDermott when Whaley wanted to continue searching. The only decision where it appears he took advice was hiring Beane on McDermott's say so. 2 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUT Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There’s firms and stuff owners hire. Ive said this before though, don’t expect McDermott to be fired after 1 losing season. It’s going to take multiple losing seasons. And I’ll add my opinion. The Bills would be absolutely stupid to think about firing McDermott until they have a losing season. He should already be gone, he's the wrong coach for Allen. The Reid-Mahomes combo proves this. 8 4 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 He turns to the ghost of Hank Bullough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 41 minutes ago, NUT said: He should already be gone, he's the wrong coach for Allen. The Reid-Mahomes combo proves this. Done pretty good so far. I’m not really sure how a Reid Mahomes combo proves anything? But if Pegula can get Andy Reid then I’m all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 41 minutes ago, NUT said: He should already be gone, he's the wrong coach for Allen. The Reid-Mahomes combo proves this. It doesn’t prove anything - it’s not a fact. It’s one singular instance of a really good offensive coach with a really good QB. Conceptual misunderstanding. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Done pretty good so far. I’m not really sure how a Reid Mahomes combo proves anything? But if Pegula can get Andy Reid then I’m all for it. If Bill and the Pats ever part ways, then I would kick McDermott to the curb in a NY minute. Bill has had "some success" with an elite level franchise QB. Back to reality both Beane and McDermott are safe, and it probably would take a really bad season to get them canned like 3-14, 4-13 type bad. I am just a fan, so my opinion is completely meaningless. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 to your point, he doesnt have a VP with the Sabres and Bills, but he does have one at PSE, Executive VP Ron Raccuia, which is a bit odd as the those teams gen the big revenue but the track record of GMs and coaches is littered with road kill, NDAs, and a decade of learning the hard way, so he learned to trust, who ? Kim, but she seems to be incapacitated on the road to recovery hopefully...his kids are a bit young to make inner circle big decisions and dont have experience but neither did KIm...so is it Raccuia or just him collecting info, being conservative, and figuring it out in his own, which means doing nothing much other than counting his profits and where to re-invest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 5 hours ago, Starr Almighty said: He calls Russ Brandon of course he's been running the Bills for the last 23 years It kind of seems that Raccuia is the new Brandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, NUT said: He should already be gone, he's the wrong coach for Allen. The Reid-Mahomes combo proves this. very scientific. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 7 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: When the team is doing well and/or exceeding general expectations, as it has done the past few years, minus, probably, last season, this question is kind of moot. But if and when the team is not meeting expectations or things get complicated, is there anyone in Pegula's circle of friends or trusted business associates (at arm's length from Bills operations) who he can turn to for advice and counsel on questions related to extensions, evaluations, or possible firings? I'm not trying to be negative; I hope McBean lead us to multiple championships... but if things don't go as well as we hope — and with an elite QB things should mean serious contention for a Super Bowl — is Terry on his own or who advises him? Pegula seems, obviously, like a sharp businessman, but he doesn't strike me as a football expert. Maybe I'm wrong but I expect him to turn to someone if and when he needs to make tough decisions. Man are you going to get flamed for this. But it’s a far more legitimate question than most here will admit. Kim Pegula’s serious health problems have taken away half of the brain trust at the top of the Bills and Sabres decision making pyramid. Anyone who fails to recognize this is not giving Kim her due. I’m not sure what Terry has done to fill that void, but I hope he’s found high quality people to do so. I also hope that he is choosing better than Jerry Jones, who he seems to be leaning on for all things stadium related. And, yes, NFL owners often seek the council of other, more experienced owners. The NFL is a business first and foremost. Edited May 18 by BarleyNY 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Bill Polian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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