Sunday ticket advance prices released

[Mike in Horseheads]

5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

what are you on DSL or something?

 

Dial up lol

[PetermansRedemption]

I feel like this should be far cheaper for YTTV subscribers than it is. A measly $100 less to pay $72 per month? 

[ProcessTruster]

On 4/20/2023 at 5:57 AM, newcam2012 said:

That doesn't seem like a deal to me. I'm going to miss the days of getting the ticket for free or $99. 

 

To boot, YouTube tv prices are going up. The sports package I like is around $72 a month. I suspect prices with continue to go up. 

 

Right now, I still have DTV with discounts applied. Still paying more than $72 a month. Decisions decisions. I hate changing over as I'm an old dinasour. 

 

Maybe my kids can find a nice bootleg way to watch the games with a VPN. Not my style but I wanna watch my Bills games. However, I suspect the Bills with have quite a few nationally televised games too. 

yeah just use your laptop or phone to  cast a stream off NFL Bite ( Reddit ) onto your apple Tv box or smart TV and you are good to go.   free football

 

DTV is dead.  Get SlingTV for $40 per month.  

[Bob Jones]

14 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

what are you on DSL or something?

 

Nah, we have Xfinity/Comcast, and it's pretty good speed, but....my point was that in order to get good, clean video from YT (including NFL games) you must have a decent internet connection, so even though nowadays everybody already has a home-based wireless internet set up, you still should take at least part of that cost as the cost of you watching NFL games on YT.

[nucci]

8 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I feel like this should be far cheaper for YTTV subscribers than it is. A measly $100 less to pay $72 per month? 

It's much cheaper than what I was paying directv every month

[Ned Flanders]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

It's much cheaper than what I was paying directv every month

Even with your annual "August Discounts?" 

[nucci]

2 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:

Even with your annual "August Discounts?" 

yep, even with them

[nucci]

27 minutes ago, nucci said:

yep, even with them

I've said this before but youtube is $73 and disney bundle is $13. Live TV, unlimited DVR, hockey games and bunch of other stuff to watch so it's a great deal for me. My directv  channel package was $125/month. add in fees for boxes, multiple TVs taxes and other stuff and it came to about $180 without Sunday ticket and NHL Center Ice. Also Sunday Ticket Max was $395 last year. I'm getting it for $289 this season.

 

[talbert240]

Anyone know if you get just the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube, without YouTube TV, can you only watch the games in real time, or are you able to stream the game later, on their cloud-based DVR?

[Ned Flanders]

1 minute ago, talbert240 said:

Anyone know if you get just the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube, without YouTube TV, can you only watch the games in real time, or are you able to stream the game later, on their cloud-based DVR?

Haven't seen this addressed specifically, but I would think that you would need YTTV to access their DVR.

[nucci]

37 minutes ago, talbert240 said:

Anyone know if you get just the NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube, without YouTube TV, can you only watch the games in real time, or are you able to stream the game later, on their cloud-based DVR?

yes, with Youtube Primetime. I think Ned is correct about DVR access

 

https://tvanswerman.com/2023/04/21/nfl-sunday-ticket-should-you-get-youtube-tv-or-youtube-primetime-channels/

Edited April 21, 2023 by nucci

[talbert240]

Answering my own post...

I just got off a chat with YouTube about recording games with NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube, without YouTube TV.

 

YouTube said YES you can record games on the YouTube TV app, but not on the YouTube app.

 

I do not have either the YouTube TV or YouTube app, but plan to sign up for Sunday Ticket this year and hope this works as they described it.

[Motorin']

On 4/20/2023 at 5:22 AM, Captain_Quint said:

Can you pause/record YTTV?

 

Yes, but it's not nearly as seamless as cable. The rewind function goes in 15 second chunks instead of frame by frame. That's what I miss most about Xfinity. 

 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

17 hours ago, Xwnyer said:

I am hoping loophole exists in spectrum app.  I have a friend who lives in WNY that is gonna let me try his  spectrum account first no national games,

Unless you can block your location while using the app, I really doubt you'll be able to watch games our of the area. In fact, even if you can block the location for regular TV, I doubt you can block it and watch local games. But, doesn't hurt to try.

[newcam2012]

10 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

yeah just use your laptop or phone to  cast a stream off NFL Bite ( Reddit ) onto your apple Tv box or smart TV and you are good to go.   free football

 

DTV is dead.  Get SlingTV for $40 per month.  

I'll have to look into sling tv.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Nah, we have Xfinity/Comcast, and it's pretty good speed, but....my point was that in order to get good, clean video from YT (including NFL games) you must have a decent internet connection, so even though nowadays everybody already has a home-based wireless internet set up, you still should take at least part of that cost as the cost of you watching NFL games on YT.

In the Year of our Lord, 2023, I doubt anyone who streams any other services is going to have any kind of a problem with this.

 

 

[letsgoteam]

Wonder if they will have a college student price like DirecTV offered.

[IslandBillsFan]

FYI- My Plan is to wait for the schedule release (probably around 5/11) and then make an assessment.  

 

My rationale is at a minimum we should have and my tendencies are:

4 Primetime Games

2 In Person Games

2 Games which are just regular broadcast

 

The real kicker is usually I am out of town for about 4 weekends of the football season.  Usually, when traveling I like to find a Bills bar or just a sports bar to watch the game.  It is rare I am in a situation where I need to stream on my phone.  

 

Put that all together and I think I will have access to at least 12 of the 17 games.  That leaves me about 5 weekends to go to the local bar to watch the games.  I think I can manage that and it will be cheaper than purchasing the YouTube season ticket.

 

Anyone thinking along the same lines?

[nucci]

27 minutes ago, IslandBillsFan said:

FYI- My Plan is to wait for the schedule release (probably around 5/11) and then make an assessment.  

 

My rationale is at a minimum we should have and my tendencies are:

4 Primetime Games

2 In Person Games

2 Games which are just regular broadcast

 

The real kicker is usually I am out of town for about 4 weekends of the football season.  Usually, when traveling I like to find a Bills bar or just a sports bar to watch the game.  It is rare I am in a situation where I need to stream on my phone.  

 

Put that all together and I think I will have access to at least 12 of the 17 games.  That leaves me about 5 weekends to go to the local bar to watch the games.  I think I can manage that and it will be cheaper than purchasing the YouTube season ticket.

 

Anyone thinking along the same lines?

Nope, I have youtubetv and Sunday ticket. Prefer to watch at home with no one bothering me

[PetermansRedemption]

8 hours ago, letsgoteam said:

Wonder if they will have a college student price like DirecTV offered.

They likely won’t. That was offered by Directv for people who couldn’t get a satellite dish. YouTube TV will likely say anyone can get YTTV. 

[RichRiderBills]

I've never understood NFLs model here.

 

First off, the NFL should be their own network ( they literally already have this) 

 

The should have a stream service ( Again they have this)

 

Charge folks less, make it grow, and profit more by running it. 

 

Or

 

NFL should sell non exclusive deals with many people and several sources. Sell rights to Xfinity , Amazon, YouTube, DTV, Dish, etc ..

 

Let the above run PPV games ala carte. 

 

Let them all get the service for a non exclusive price. They would make more this way and continue to grow the sport and viewers. 

 

The exclusive rights deal is lazy. Bad corporate model and extremely risky. It's been bad for the NFL. 

 

The only caveat is RedZone, which is farmed out apart from Sunday ticket, and run well. RedZone is the standard. 

 

 

Edited April 22, 2023 by RichRiderBills

[davefan66]

Just now, RichRiderBills said:

I've never understood NFLs model here.

 

First off, the NFL should be their own network ( they literally already have this) 

 

The should have a stream service ( Again they have this)

 

Charge folks less, make it grow, and profit more by running it. 

 

Or

 

NFL should sell non exclusive deals with many people and several sources. Sell rights to Xfinity , Amazon, YouTube, DTV, Dish, etc ..

 

Let them all get the service for a non exclusive price. They would make more this way and continue to grow the sport and viewers. 

 

The exclusive rights deal is lazy. Bad corporate model and extremely risky. 

 

 

They could care less. They got paid a ton of money to do nothing.  All the risk is on YouTube to recoup their money, NFL gets paid regardless.

 

I do agree the cost should be less, and more options like single team.  They have no reason to do so unless they made more money doing so.

[RichRiderBills]

Just now, davefan66 said:

They could care less. They got paid a ton of money to do nothing.  All the risk is on YouTube to recoup their money, NFL gets paid regardless.

 

I do agree the cost should be less, and more options like single team.  They have no reason to do so unless they made more money doing so.

 

There's inherit risk whenever you license out a property.

 

They have the keys to your castle. Any number of actions could effect your bottom line in the future or on the next deal. 

 

Take for example Thursday night football on Amazon. If your not growing viewers you are risking shrinking viewership. 

[Matt_In_NH]

11 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I've never understood NFLs model here.

 

First off, the NFL should be their own network ( they literally already have this) 

 

The should have a stream service ( Again they have this)

 

Charge folks less, make it grow, and profit more by running it. 

 

Or

 

NFL should sell non exclusive deals with many people and several sources. Sell rights to Xfinity , Amazon, YouTube, DTV, Dish, etc ..

 

Let the above run PPV games ala carte. 

 

Let them all get the service for a non exclusive price. They would make more this way and continue to grow the sport and viewers. 

 

The exclusive rights deal is lazy. Bad corporate model and extremely risky. It's been bad for the NFL. 

 

The only caveat is RedZone, which is farmed out apart from Sunday ticket, and run well. RedZone is the standard. 

 

 

Do you really think the 10+ billion dollar entity did not consider all options and choose the one that is best value/growth and some random internet guy can just too out something better?

[nucci]

22 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I've never understood NFLs model here.

 

First off, the NFL should be their own network ( they literally already have this) 

 

The should have a stream service ( Again they have this)

 

Charge folks less, make it grow, and profit more by running it. 

 

Or

 

NFL should sell non exclusive deals with many people and several sources. Sell rights to Xfinity , Amazon, YouTube, DTV, Dish, etc ..

 

Let the above run PPV games ala carte. 

 

Let them all get the service for a non exclusive price. They would make more this way and continue to grow the sport and viewers. 

 

The exclusive rights deal is lazy. Bad corporate model and extremely risky. It's been bad for the NFL. 

 

The only caveat is RedZone, which is farmed out apart from Sunday ticket, and run well. RedZone is the standard. 

 

 

The NFL model works. They get billions of dollars for broadcasting their games and people pay for the ridiculous PSLs just for the right to buy a ticket.

[SoMAn]

question regarding sharing Sunday Ticket for someone with technical knowledge of the service.....

Youtube conditions for service stipulate that a subscriber can view the NFLST on 2 devices, only for people who reside in the same household.

 

Is this enforceable? If I want to share a login and password with a neighbor, are there obstacles that Youtube has in place to prevent sharing outside the subscriber residence? What if I want to take my tablet remotely away from the house? Do I have to remain on the same home wi-fi network to receive the streaming from Youtube? 

Unfortunately, I'm not seeing these questions answered at Youtube's FAQ site.

 

I'm trying to avoid paying $350 for what will amount to only about 5 or 6 games not shown on local Atlanta TV/Peacock.  If I can split the cost with a friend it might be worth it.

Thanks in advance for any definitive answers.

[Beast]

Paid my 349 last week. Hope there aren’t any glitches but I expect some issues.

[nucci]

6 minutes ago, Beast said:

Paid my 349 last week. Hope there aren’t any glitches but I expect some issues.

My concern is the lag time though it happens with satellite and cable as well. Watching NHL and NBA playoffs I've noticed about a 30 second difference when watching the games to checking scores on my phone. 

[Fan in Chicago]

21 minutes ago, Beast said:

Paid my 349 last week. Hope there aren’t any glitches but I expect some issues.

I expect Google to have done it's leg work such that we don't have any streaming issues. 

[nucci]

Just now, Fan in Chicago said:

I expect Google to have done it's leg work such that we don't have any streaming issues. 

I do too but they had issues during the NBA playoffs recently

 

[Fan in Chicago]

13 minutes ago, nucci said:

My concern is the lag time though it happens with satellite and cable as well. Watching NHL and NBA playoffs I've noticed about a 30 second difference when watching the games to checking scores on my phone. 

Given the short time of actual action in an NFL play, even a few seconds of lag is annoying if you are chatting with someone on, say, TBD Shout box. With NFL Sunday ticket I often found myself 10-15 seconds behind 

[Matt_In_NH]

If you are only interested in bills games it is may not really needed.  I live I. Ne.   All four of the 4pm games are national games and will be on your local tv.   6 night games one in London leaves 6 1pm games.   Of those two are pats so those are local and a couple of the others I believe I will get also.  I may have to go to a bar for one or two.   Not worth $350 for me this year. 

[PromoTheRobot]

18 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

If you are only interested in bills games it is may not really needed.  I live I. Ne.   All four of the 4pm games are national games and will be on your local tv.   6 night games one in London leaves 6 1pm games.   Of those two are pats so those are local and a couple of the others I believe I will get also.  I may have to go to a bar for one or two.   Not worth $350 for me this year. 

 

Yup. Same here. There won't be enough Bills games that won't be on locally in NH to make spending that much money worth it.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Yup. Same here. There won't be enough Bills games that won't be on locally in NH to make spending that much money worth it.

Ha, I live in Goffstown...

[SoMAn]

3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

If you are only interested in bills games it is may not really needed.  I live I. Ne.   All four of the 4pm games are national games and will be on your local tv.   6 night games one in London leaves 6 1pm games.   Of those two are pats so those are local and a couple of the others I believe I will get also.  I may have to go to a bar for one or two.   Not worth $350 for me this year. 

I’m basically in the same situation. I’ll probably be able to watch at least 10-12 games at home. I’ve been spoiled with free Sunday Ticket the last few years, so the idea of paying $350 for maybe 5 games is not my preferred method. If I can split the cost….maybe. 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Ha, I live in Goffstown...

Hooksett.

[Matt_In_NH]

26 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Hooksett.

Maybe see you at Billy's Sports Bar for those 1 or two games....not really sure I will be there, might find another way ...but there is a backers group that goes there.

[PromoTheRobot]

5 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Maybe see you at Billy's Sports Bar for those 1 or two games....not really sure I will be there, might find another way ...but there is a backers group that goes there.

 

Yeah, I'm part of that group. In fact I got them to settle on Billy's when we were going in circles trying to pick a HQ bar. They give us our own room with the sound up. This year will be hard because the Bills will be on so many national games. Obviously attendance is better when the games aren't on.

Edited May 24, 2023 by PromoTheRobot

[Pirate Angel]

Does YT give multiple logins like Netflix?...maybe we should align and stick it to the man

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

If you are only interested in bills games it is may not really needed.  I live I. Ne.   All four of the 4pm games are national games and will be on your local tv.   6 night games one in London leaves 6 1pm games.   Of those two are pats so those are local and a couple of the others I believe I will get also.  I may have to go to a bar for one or two.   Not worth $350 for me this year. 

 

Yea if I wasn't local then I'd just get the NFL pass and I would avoid any way to hear game scores then just watch game after it gets posted on the NFL replay list and watch it as if it were live  which would be from my perspective though game was really already played.