ALLEN1QB Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Thank god did not want him in a Bills uniform!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, OutOfBubbleGum said: I didn't like OBJ anyway. Would you like him in a boat? Would you like him with a goat? Edited April 10, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Why are we acting like Lamar Jackson is all of a sudden this great passing quarterback. he never was that Now he seems to be hurt all the time Why are people acting like Lamar is this awful passer? What talent at the WR position has he ever had to work with? If Hollywood had a 1,000 yard season with Lamar OBJ can too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, Chicken Boo said: Why are people acting like Lamar is this awful passer? What talent at the WR position has he ever had to work with? If Hollywood had a 1,000 yard season with Lamar OBJ can too. The answer to this is pretty simple How do you defend Lamar Jackson? You keep him in the pocket and you make him throw the ball Has worked so far? I mean, all of this doesn’t really matter because he starting to become a walking injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The answer to this is pretty simple How do you defend Lamar Jackson? You keep him in the pocket and you make him throw the ball Has worked so far? I mean, all of this doesn’t really matter because he starting to become a walking injury That's definitely the most effective way of containing him, but that plan might now be limited due to having more than just Bateman and Duevernay on the outside. Edited April 10, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: It’s a huge risk Diggs has never shredded, his knee, knock on wood the way that obj has I hated the idea of Beckham and clearly Diggs was an ascending player without injury. But it’s one year and the Ravens are desperate. Can’t see it changing them major in any way but they are at least trying to get some playmakers and it’s not a major investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: I hated the idea of Beckham and clearly Diggs was an ascending player without injury. But it’s one year and the Ravens are desperate. Can’t see it changing them major in any way but they are at least trying to get some playmakers and it’s not a major investment. I mean if you’ve got $18 million kicking around somewhere not being used then I guess? I just couldn’t see us doing that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfBubbleGum Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Would you like him in a boat? Would you like him with a goat? Not with a boat. Not with a goat. I don't like OBJ I say. But hopefully he is draining the Ravens cap space in terms of the Ravens not being able to pay for decent players in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Is this signing an indictment on the WRs in the draft? Why not try to add talent from the draft? My bet is that the Ravens don’t have time for a WR to develop. They need someone who can contribute this season and they need someone who can help entice Lamar to show up to training camp. Also they needed to do something that at least looks like they helped their WR corps. Edited April 10, 2023 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 16 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: unless this helps them keep Lamar, they are not a contender Don't ya think this might make Lamar stay? Baltimore's position has ALWAYS been that he is under contract and he is their QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Don't ya think this might make Lamar stay? Baltimore's position has ALWAYS been that he is under contract and he is their QB. but he's not under contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 I was hoping to have him land here on a reasonable deal and try to establish himself as a worthwhile risk for teams again. I guess he decided to take 15M to the bank and not risk it, I don’t blame him. Maybe the Ravens are over paying him so he can step in and advise Jackson to quit being a dumb ass and sign a deal. 30 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: My bet is that the Ravens don’t have time for a WR to develop. They need someone who can contribute this season and they need someone who can help entice Lamar to show up to training camp. Also they needed to do something that at least looks like they helped their WR corps. This has to be a big part of their thinking. This is the attempt to give their questionable passer a big time target and see if he can do something with it, like the Diggs for Allen move. I’d say this is probably more of an “Ok Lamar, show us you are what you think you are” move. Or it turns into a “is Huntley our future?” move. Either way, it solidifies their weaponry enough to judge a QB if the guy stays healthy. You have Andrews, OBJ, and some decent young guys, with a legit run game, if you can do it with that, you aren’t THE answer at QB. That’s more than most great QBs have to work with and they get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, nucci said: but he's not under contract ..but he is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Malazan said: ..but he is.. I don't think he has signed a contract to play next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 4 hours ago, nucci said: I don't think he has signed a contract to play next season He will sign the contract and play with or without OBJ. Lamar isnt going to give up that money. He isnt going to get the contract he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: He will sign the contract and play with or without OBJ. Lamar isnt going to give up that money. He isnt going to get the contract he wants. Probably but I was responding to someone saying that he is under contract right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 15M guaranteed. Lol. There was no way Beane would ever consider that and I’m glad he didn’t. I think he’s in a good spot though. Expect a lot of change (and Lamar to be back) in the passing game. He’ll do well and see a nice share of targets if he stays healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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starrymessenger Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 10 hours ago, BarleyNY said: My bet is that the Ravens don’t have time for a WR to develop. They need someone who can contribute this season and they need someone who can help entice Lamar to show up to training camp. Also they needed to do something that at least looks like they helped their WR corps. Although at first glance this move seems a head scratcher Eric DaCosta is a good GM and Ravens a well managed organization. Looks to me that Lamar's path may now lead back to the Ravens this year under the franchise tag, even if they have to top up the 35M to 45M to keep him from sitting out. In fact this move makes sense only if Lamar is the QB. Now watch Baltimore move up a few spots in rd 1 and scoop JSN (who can contribute immediately) or maybe Flowers or Addison fall to them. Receivers problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 I wanted OBJ, but this is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Although at first glance this move seems a head scratcher Eric DaCosta is a good GM and Ravens a well managed organization. Looks to me that Lamar's path may now lead back to the Ravens this year under the franchise tag, even if they have to top up the 35M to 45M to keep him from sitting out. In fact this move makes sense only if Lamar is the QB. Now watch Baltimore move up a few spots in rd 1 and scoop JSN (who can contribute immediately) or maybe Flowers or Addison fall to them. Receivers problem solved. Lol. Historically the Ravens have been very well run, though amorally. But there’s no sugar coating their moves of late. Lamar, OBJ, Roquan Smith, etc. I’m not really sure what they are doing these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Lol. Historically the Ravens have been very well run, though amorally. But there’s no sugar coating their moves of late. Lamar, OBJ, Roquan Smith, etc. I’m not really sure what they are doing these days. I don't think Ozzie Newsome is in charge anymore. He was one of the best GMs they have had 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, nucci said: I don't think Ozzie Newsome is in charge anymore. He was one of the best GMs they have had Agreed. He was as great a GM as he was a TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 10 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Although at first glance this move seems a head scratcher Eric DaCosta is a good GM and Ravens a well managed organization. Looks to me that Lamar's path may now lead back to the Ravens this year under the franchise tag, even if they have to top up the 35M to 45M to keep him from sitting out. In fact this move makes sense only if Lamar is the QB. Now watch Baltimore move up a few spots in rd 1 and scoop JSN (who can contribute immediately) or maybe Flowers or Addison fall to them. Receivers problem solved. Contrary to what many people seem to think, I think the Ravens have played this Lamar scenario almost perfectly. Once he refused to extend, they have used their leverage and won. A guy all about his money isn’t going to let 32M get away, he will play this year. You can tag him 2 more years in a row for less than you offered the idiot guaranteed. All the risk falls on him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Where receivers go to die. I don’t mind this. He’ll get hurt, or pissy about the lack of targets/catch rate. Unless he knows something nobody else knows, he’s expecting 8 to be his quarterback, and LJ will have completion totals averaging in the teens, which is where you want them if your John Harbaugh because that means his attempts are in the 20s, and there’s more running going on than passing. Lamar Jackson has a couple huge games a year, and those completely cloud the media’s mind with greatness (as a thrower…) and we all hear that and kind of believe. Unless he built a private indoor facility and he’s training like crazy to become a better passer, which I doubt he is, this isn’t going to end well for either player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott7975 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 9 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I wanted OBJ, but this is insane. Yup me too but not at that price. I didnt expect to pay him 4mil but I wouldnt want to pay him 15 either. Maybe 8-10 was where I thought it would be a decent one year deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Behindenemylines Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 21 hours ago, DCofNC said: Contrary to what many people seem to think, I think the Ravens have played this Lamar scenario almost perfectly. Once he refused to extend, they have used their leverage and won. A guy all about his money isn’t going to let 32M get away, he will play this year. You can tag him 2 more years in a row for less than you offered the idiot guaranteed. All the risk falls on him. I agree they played it well but I believe his pride will make him sit out this year. I hope so just to see what actually happens. also if he does play to see what type of teammate he has devolved too. It could be a dumpster fire. And then OBJ starts his chattering. Fun to watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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