NFL draft rumors 2023

[BillsFan2313]

10 hours ago, NewEra said:

Next time you get some valuable information, you should withhold the details and just PM them to me so the opposition won’t be privy to it 😉 

 

 

For 1.7M- I bet they are….. but not more, which essentially eliminates us for consideration.  

 

Expect moves after the draft

[BarleyNY]

4 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

I heard this talked about on 550. I laughed. It’s silly season in the NFL. Believe nothing you hear. It just makes no sense when you think about it. I still think it’s Stroud #1 and Young #2. Houston is putting smoke out there that Young is the only QB worth taking early so Stroud falls to them. I don’t blame them if that’s what they’re doing. Young’s size will severely limit his NFL career. I wouldn’t want to take a 5’10”, 175# QB second overall. Or really anywhere in the draft. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I heard this talked about on 550. I laughed. It’s silly season in the NFL. Believe nothing you hear. It just makes no sense when you think about it. I still think it’s Stroud #1 and Young #2. Houston is putting smoke out there that Young is the only QB worth taking early so Stroud falls to them. I don’t blame them if that’s what they’re doing. Young’s size will severely limit his NFL career. I wouldn’t want to take a 5’10”, 175# QB second overall. Or really anywhere in the draft. 

 

Maybe, but I don't think so. I think the Panthers and the Texans both want Young. I was told Young was Houston's guy way before lying season started. Before Carolina moved up too. If he goes at #1 I think there is a chance that Houston either doesn't pick a QB at #2 or trades out. 

 

To trade out they would need someone willing to give them a 2024 first I think because they'd be punting the decision a year. Not sure anyone else is as desperate as the Panthers to do that. My advice would be take CJ Stroud at #2. You have a 2nd first this year to get someone at another position who can help. And if you are not sold on CJ just be open to taking another QB next year if he struggles. 

[Billz4ever]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I heard this talked about on 550. I laughed. It’s silly season in the NFL. Believe nothing you hear. It just makes no sense when you think about it. I still think it’s Stroud #1 and Young #2. Houston is putting smoke out there that Young is the only QB worth taking early so Stroud falls to them. I don’t blame them if that’s what they’re doing. Young’s size will severely limit his NFL career. I wouldn’t want to take a 5’10”, 175# QB second overall. Or really anywhere in the draft. 

Agreed.  A 5' 10" QB in this league is at a serious disadvantage from the jump.

 

To put it into perspective, look at a Bills O huddle.  Diggs is 6 feet tall.  Look how Josh still seems to tower over everyone except the tallest o line.  In this league, being able to see over your lineman and it being less likely your balls are batted down by 6' 2"+ d-line and LBs simply cannot be discounted.  

Edited April 18, 2023 by Billz4ever

[ALF]

Bryce Young appears to be consensus No 1 pick to Panthers after bold move before NFL Draft

Through the widespread speculation that the Panthers were going to select Young with their top pick, the 2021 Heisman Trophy winner reportedly canceled all of his remaining pre-draft visits to other NFL teams. 

 

This move seems to confirm to experts what they already thought: The Panthers have already told Young they will take him first overall on April 27.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/bryce-young-appears-consensus-no-1-pick-panthers-bold-move-nfl-draft

[NeverOutNick]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe, but I don't think so. I think the Panthers and the Texans both want Young. I was told Young was Houston's guy way before lying season started. Before Carolina moved up too. If he goes at #1 I think there is a chance that Houston either doesn't pick a QB at #2 or trades out. 

 

To trade out they would need someone willing to give them a 2024 first I think because they'd be punting the decision a year. Not sure anyone else is as desperate as the Panthers to do that. My advice would be take CJ Stroud at #2. You have a 2nd first this year to get someone at another position who can help. And if you are not sold on CJ just be open to taking another QB next year if he struggles. 

I agree with this take. I’m not sure yet that I buy it that Houston has the balls to not take Stroud if Young is gone but man I would give them some kudos if they traded down picked up some more pieces knowing they’ll get their QB next year in a class with a couple elite QB prospects (Maye is my favorite right now, kid looks special). Houston ownership has to have a long leash in order to let his guys do this because they’re essentially saying we’re tanking for Maye or Williams. If I were them, even with Stroud being a decent prospect, I would do the same. I’m just not sure they actually will

[Back2Buff]

10 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

I heard this talked about on 550. I laughed. It’s silly season in the NFL. Believe nothing you hear. It just makes no sense when you think about it. I still think it’s Stroud #1 and Young #2. Houston is putting smoke out there that Young is the only QB worth taking early so Stroud falls to them. I don’t blame them if that’s what they’re doing. Young’s size will severely limit his NFL career. I wouldn’t want to take a 5’10”, 175# QB second overall. Or really anywhere in the draft. 

 

People say that every year, and then the NFL draft never disappoints on the trades or players taken.   The media drives out narratives on certain players (agent driven) and then when the authentic events happen, they call it silly season.

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

I agree with this take. I’m not sure yet that I buy it that Houston has the balls to not take Stroud if Young is gone but man I would give them some kudos if they traded down picked up some more pieces knowing they’ll get their QB next year in a class with a couple elite QB prospects (Maye is my favorite right now, kid looks special). Houston ownership has to have a long leash in order to let his guys do this because they’re essentially saying we’re tanking for Maye or Williams. If I were them, even with Stroud being a decent prospect, I would do the same. I’m just not sure they actually will

This is what houston should be doing.  None of these QBs are the truth imo. Lots of fools gold out there. But next year…. That’s a different story.  

Edited April 18, 2023 by NewEra

[HappyDays]

Beane is pretty open and honest about his process every year, so I take these statements as fact.

[cle23]

12 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe, but I don't think so. I think the Panthers and the Texans both want Young. I was told Young was Houston's guy way before lying season started. Before Carolina moved up too. If he goes at #1 I think there is a chance that Houston either doesn't pick a QB at #2 or trades out. 

 

To trade out they would need someone willing to give them a 2024 first I think because they'd be punting the decision a year. Not sure anyone else is as desperate as the Panthers to do that. My advice would be take CJ Stroud at #2. You have a 2nd first this year to get someone at another position who can help. And if you are not sold on CJ just be open to taking another QB next year if he struggles. 

 

I don't like Stroud much.  If I'm Houston, I trade down if Young goes 1 and try to grab Richardson or Levis.  Stock more picks and take either of those guys wherever you trade down to, or at 12. Still a gamble, but the extra picks help offset the risk.  

[McBean]

Same crap, different year.

 

X team isn’t taking this player.

 

BS.

 

Young 1

 

Stroud 2

[Buffalo_Stampede]

26 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Beane is pretty open and honest about his process every year, so I take these statements as fact.

Beane states the obvious. Many people have already said what he said. 

[mannc]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

This is what houston should be doing.  None of these QBs are the truth imo. Lots of fools gold out there. But next year…. That’s a different story.  

It's possible that Houston doesn't like Stroud, but if that's the case, they should be trading down with someone who does (assuming there is someone), not taking the top defender at 2 overall.  If I was a Texans fan, I'd be apoplectic about the thought of having to live through another season of Davis Mills.

[SCBills]

32 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

I don't like Stroud much.  If I'm Houston, I trade down if Young goes 1 and try to grab Richardson or Levis.  Stock more picks and take either of those guys wherever you trade down to, or at 12. Still a gamble, but the extra picks help offset the risk.  

 

This draft reminds me, a bit, of the Allen draft.   Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen at the top of the draft... in the sense that I think it will be a bunch of busts and, maybe, Richardson lives up to his potential. 

 

Edited April 18, 2023 by SCBills

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, mannc said:

It's possible that Houston doesn't like Stroud, but if that's the case, they should be trading down with someone who does (assuming there is someone), not taking the top defender at 2 overall.  If I was a Texans fan, I'd be apoplectic about the thought of having to live through another season of Davis Mills.

I agree completely.  I never said they should draft D with #2.  Trade down, trade down again and again in this crap draft.  Get more ammo for next year and make sure you get a top 2 pick.  Things will turn around at that point.  I don’t think any of these QBs are worth rolling the dice on 

[Billz4ever]

55 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Beane is pretty open and honest about his process every year, so I take these statements as fact.

 

And that's precisely what we should be hoping he does rather than reach at 27.

[Warriorspikes51]

I'll guess a trade up to late teens or early 20's if JSN / Addison / Flowers (whoever they want) is still there.

If Bijan Robinson makes it to 24, I can see us jumping  NYG and Dallas 

[NeverOutNick]

7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I'll guess a trade up to late teens or early 20's if JSN / Addison / Flowers (whoever they want) is still there.

If Bijan Robinson makes it to 24, I can see us jumping  NYG and Dallas 

if it only costs us a 4th or later then fine but if not just sit pretty no reason to trade up for WRs in this class when the drop off isn’t that much. No elite talent outside of Flowers imo and even then I’m staying Pat if it costs more than a 4th…now if you want to trade up for a premier OT like Paris or Jones sure I can get on board with that

 

[dave mcbride]

13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe, but I don't think so. I think the Panthers and the Texans both want Young. I was told Young was Houston's guy way before lying season started. Before Carolina moved up too. If he goes at #1 I think there is a chance that Houston either doesn't pick a QB at #2 or trades out. 

 

To trade out they would need someone willing to give them a 2024 first I think because they'd be punting the decision a year. Not sure anyone else is as desperate as the Panthers to do that. My advice would be take CJ Stroud at #2. You have a 2nd first this year to get someone at another position who can help. And if you are not sold on CJ just be open to taking another QB next year if he struggles. 

Outside of one example I can think of -- Rosen followed by Kyler Murray -- no one ever takes a QB the next year if the number two overall pick struggles (and Rosen was #10, a meaningful difference). Teams don't give up that easily--even though they often should. If they think the QBs outside of Young are weak, they shouldn't take one because then you're tied to that guy for longer than you think. It can simply prolong the agony. Basically, if you draft a guy at 2 and then give up on him right away, you're basically telling everyone that you're a moron and a bad judge of talent. That might actually be true, but it's human nature to not be willing to admit that. If Houston takes Stroud at 2, they aren't taking a QB early next season no matter how poorly he plays.  Anyway, isn't the QB class for next year supposed to be a lot better than this one? 

 

If I'm Houston and am not sold on Stroud or the other QBs, I try to trade down and get another first for next year so that they have the ammo to maneuver for a QB in 2024.

[Einstein's Dog]

35 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I'll guess a trade up to late teens or early 20's if JSN / Addison / Flowers (whoever they want) is still there.

If Bijan Robinson makes it to 24, I can see us jumping  NYG and Dallas 

Yes, to going up for a WR - particularly Addison.

 

A huge NO to moving for B Robinson. A big NO to drafting him at all.   If he makes it to 27, some team would want him and we should trade down.