Milanos Milano Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 So glad we are done with this chapter. He just wasn’t reliable enough and couldn’t move the chains when Allen needed it most. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Nice guy, glad he's gone. Too many gaffs when it mattered most in games for me. Same with Singletary. Great guy, even better team player, but missing when it counted most, and fumble prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Hope he succeeds, seems like a cool guy. I think playing in a dome will be better for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Homey D. Clown said: Nice guy, glad he's gone. Too many gaffs when it mattered most in games for me. Same with Singletary. Great guy, even better team player, but missing when it counted most, and fumble prone. I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. Really strange how that happens. It's undeniably true. Note: traditionally, the term is scapegoat. I don't know if the neologism is intended, but escape goat is rather witty. The critical act of the fan as both escapism and vicarious scourging of the selected victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Basically was given the slot role and had the opportunity to show his skills as a starter and just blew it time & time again. McKenzie really could’ve increased his worth, but didn’t take full advantage. I wish him luck, but if he can’t make it Josh Allen then I don’t think whoever the Colts start can make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. I dont disagree with much here. But I am curious to the bold. Who do you think is getting the privilege of having their mistakes overlooked or forgotten? From what I've seen out of Bills fans over the past year, EVERY mistake by EVERY player is blown up and over-critiqued until it has been beaten into the ground. Somewhere over the last year BillsMafia decided that only ABSOLUTE PERFECTION will be tolerated (not even celebrated). I cant think of a single player that has managed to stay above it. Even Diggs and Josh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I dont disagree with much here. But I am curious to the bold. Who do you think is getting the privilege of having their mistakes overlooked or forgotten? From what I've seen out of Bills fans over the past year, EVERY mistake by EVERY player is blown up and over-critiqued until it has been beaten into the ground. Somewhere over the last year BillsMafia decided that only ABSOLUTE PERFECTION will be tolerated (not even celebrated). I cant think of a single player that has managed to stay above it. Even Diggs and Josh. You have a valid point that we do criticize almost every player to some degree. But would you agree that some players get a relatively small share, whilst others turn into "whipping boys" and get a disproprotionate share? I guess that latter is what I see. Edmunds is one example of a popular fan whipping boy. We'll see now that he's gone. On receivers, what I noticed is that the guys on the team with the highest % drops are Singletary and Shakir, but somehow when "stone hands" or "any position that doesn't require them to catch the ball" is brought up, they don't seem to be mentioned, while Davis and McKenzie are sure to be critiqued. Part of it, I'm sure, is time in the league - we have hopes that Shakir will improve in his second season. On the other hand, Singletary has been here longer than Davis (and actually, I'm pretty sure those drops in the passing game are one of the reasons he's gone). Edited March 22, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: You have a valid point that we do criticize almost every player to some degree. But would you agree that some players get a relatively small share, whilst others turn into "whipping boys" and get a disproprotionate share? I guess that latter is what I see. Edmunds is one example of a popular fan whipping boy. We'll see now that he's gone. On receivers, what I noticed is that the guys on the team with the highest % drops are Singletary and Shakir, but somehow when "stone hands" or "any position that doesn't require them to catch the ball" is brought up, they don't seem to be mentioned, while Davis and McKenzie are sure to be critiqued. Oh, we absolutely have our "favorites". The Honorary TBD Whipping Boy goes back to the discussion board days. Whether it was Edmunds and McKenzie, or Leodis McKelvin, or Lee Evans, or Chris Kelsay, or... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 7:43 PM, The Jokeman said: He was cut, so no he won't go in comp pic formula. He was signed to a four year contract and not resigned so he was not "cut", Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. You exaggerate. Not all of the inmates released are unintelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You exaggerate. Not all of the inmates released are unintelligent. not all, but most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Oh, we absolutely have our "favorites". The Honorary TBD Whipping Boy goes back to the discussion board days. Whether it was Edmunds and McKenzie, or Leodis McKelvin, or Lee Evans, or Chris Kelsay, or... I seem to recall Donte Whitner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. Offended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Offended! please be. It’s still true. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 10:02 AM, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. If I were blaming losses and the lack of superbowls on them, then I could agree I was using them as scapegoats. It's another thing entirely to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players I liked, but did not see them as the solution for this team in their positions. Maybe we slow down on people who share my viewpoint a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said: If I were blaming losses and the lack of superbowls on them, then I could agree I was using them as scapegoats. It's another thing entirely to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players I liked, but did not see them as the solution for this team in their positions. Maybe we slow down on people who share my viewpoint a little. Nah. It's one thing to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players you didn't see as the solution for this team in their positions. I'm all for that. I can see where the Bills view Harty as a higher ceiling guy and Sherfield as bringing a different skillset, so move on from McKenzie and give them a try. It's another thing to ***** on departing players who went hard here "missing when it mattered most" "too many gaffs at big moments", apparently having amnesia about the times they came through when it mattered. That's scapegoating, if you want to go there, Go There but don't expect a pass for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Another team first player who gave his all and will be missed. Granted, he made a few errors along the way but who doesn't. Thanks for your efforts in Buffalo Isaiah. Especially for that career game against the Pats, you were awesome that day! Good luck in Indy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 22 hours ago, Beck Water said: Nah. It's one thing to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players you didn't see as the solution for this team in their positions. I'm all for that. I can see where the Bills view Harty as a higher ceiling guy and Sherfield as bringing a different skillset, so move on from McKenzie and give them a try. It's another thing to ***** on departing players who went hard here "missing when it mattered most" "too many gaffs at big moments", apparently having amnesia about the times they came through when it mattered. That's scapegoating, if you want to go there, Go There but don't expect a pass for it. If you want to scrutinize facts, go there, but that's not scapegoating, regardless of how hard you try to sell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said: If you want to scrutinize facts, go there, but that's not scapegoating, regardless of how hard you try to sell it. You aren't scrutinizing facts, that's my point. Facts are a complete story, positive and negative; omitting positive results when pointing to negative results is not factual. It's a form of crafting a narrative, which is a form of scapegoating, Mr Clown. Do whatcha like, but I'll call it the way I see it as well; don't expect to dowhatcha like while telling me to"slow down on people who share my viewpoint". I'm done here though. Edited March 24, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Contract details for McKenzie out. Took a significant price cut over the $2.2M he would have made with the Bills Basically, getting a vet minimum salary for a 6 season veteran, but he's getting a signing bonus and some additional guaranteed money. Funny how contract details like that involving a drop in pay take a while to be released Colts can move on from him pretty much any time without sneezing given their $21M cap, but McKenzie takes home more than a practice squad player earns, and more than the ~$330k would have received from the Bills if they brought him into training camp and then cut him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Cut by Colts https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/isaiah-mckenzie-released-by-indianapolis/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, boyst said: Cut by Colts https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/isaiah-mckenzie-released-by-indianapolis/ What's interesting, is that this leaves them with three (3) WR on their active roster They already released James Washington and Breshad Perriman, then waived D.J. Montgomery, Amari Rodgers, and Mike Strachan (they signed the latter 3 to their practice squad) Meanwhile, as of yesterday, they had five (5) TE 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 He'll be a giant. They could use a 47th slot receiver. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I See No Lies. Will be interesting to see who the Colts have claimed on Waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Bring him back as PS player, insurance for returns. Not joking. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: I See No Lies. Will be interesting to see who the Colts have claimed on Waivers. OT Ryan Hayes (Dolphins) LB Isaiah Land (Cowboys) OG Josh Sills (Eagles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, boyst said: Bring him back as PS player, insurance for returns. Not joking. agreed. why not? Plus he was a locker room favorite But this puts into perspective how improved we are at WR. Harty and Sherfield are huge upgrades over McKenzie and Kincaid could be super elite. This O is going to be fun to watch boys Edited August 30, 2023 by JerseyBills 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Hahahah I think this is hilarious. The dude has no hands whatsoever and is all goofing around without on field substance . His personality kept him on the Bills longer than he should have been 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: OT Ryan Hayes (Dolphins) LB Isaiah Land (Cowboys) OG Josh Sills (Eagles) So....the Colts are going to go into the season with 3 WR on the active roster? And 5 TE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: So....the Colts are going to go into the season with 3 WR on the active roster? And 5 TE? I'm going to pop on over to their board to see what their fans think of all of this. I'll report back. Edit: Their PS is lousy with WRs and some of them should be elevated prior to week 1 once the dust settles. Edited August 30, 2023 by FrenchConnection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: agreed. why not? Plus he was a locker room favorite But this puts into perspective how improved we are at WR. Harty and Sherfield are huge upgrades over McKenzie and Kincaid could be super elite. This O is going to be fun to watch boys i don't think we are better off though until paper meets the road or some saying. i am not a big believer in harty. i think sherfield as a 4th or 5th is fine. but we still need a guy like sanders was, or maybe kincaid can be as a 3rd primary target beyond diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Cut! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!🤣😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Cut! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!🤣😂 Destin Adams is a Colts "beat writer" and "NFL Insider" for the Colts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, boyst said: i don't think we are better off though until paper meets the road or some saying. i am not a big believer in harty. i think sherfield as a 4th or 5th is fine. but we still need a guy like sanders was, or maybe kincaid can be as a 3rd primary target beyond diggs. I think when he's healthy, Harty has the potential to be a better, more dynamic player than McKenzie ever was. I think he's better at tracking the ball deep, has a better release, may even run better routes. But I think everyone ought to be concerned about using "Harty" and "the best ability is Availability" in the same sentence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Put him on the practice squad and dump Isabella. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I have to think they will bring him back on PS. That's crazy if he couldn't crack that roster. They seemed to feature him early in PS games 1 minute ago, Rico said: Put him on the practice squad and dump Isabella. I will fight you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Pretty sad this worthless bum couldn't even make the Colts roster. I'm sure some fans here still actually believe he's a legit NFL player. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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