Tipster19 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I don’t think that he could say any more than what he already did in the following article. https://www.thephinsider.com/2023/2/24/23614259/does-jordan-poyer-want-to-play-for-the-miami-dolphins-tua-tagovailoa-mike-mcdaniel-buffalo-bills 2 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 All they had to do was win a SB. Now our star players are getting fed up and leaving. 2 1 1 3 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Ooof. I always wonder. Do the bills have to overpay bc of New York taxes. Why isn’t there an adjustment for teams for cap. Seems like a competitive advantage for teams in states w forgiving tax laws 2 2 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Miami seems pretty well set in their secondary. Can’t see them throwing big bucks at Poyer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, balln said: Ooof. I always wonder. Do the bills have to overpay bc of New York taxes. Why isn’t there an adjustment for teams for cap. Seems like a competitive advantage for teams in states w forgiving tax laws I don't think that is what is happening with Poyer, but the general point is one I have wondered about too. I don't know enough about the US tax system though to really understand whether it is significant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Poyer is done. He’s played great for us, a true warrior. But he’s an aging vet playing through multiple injuries who’s looking to get paid. I get it from his point of view, but unless he comes back on a somewhat team friendly deal I can’t see us retaining him. 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't know enough about the US tax system No one does. It’s the most ridiculous code in existence. 6 4 13 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think that is what is happening with Poyer, but the general point is one I have wondered about too. I don't know enough about the US tax system though to really understand whether it is significant. To keep it simple, NY state income tax is 10.9%, Florida is 0. That's a pretty significant difference 7 1 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Gunsgoodtime said: To keep it simple, NY state income tax is 10.9%, Florida is 0. That's a pretty significant difference I'm sure at this point in his career he wants to go to a team he thinks has a shot at winning it all. He played against Miami 3xs this year. Read between the lines. A Poyer on a Miami team certainly bolsters their chances to dethrone the Bills. 1 1 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think that is what is happening with Poyer, but the general point is one I have wondered about too. I don't know enough about the US tax system though to really understand whether it is significant. There are 50 different income state tax codes. They range from a top rate of zero percent in several states to 13.3% in California. In NYS the state income tax on $10MM would 964,000. I Florida, it would be zero. That might make a difference in decision making. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, newcam2012 said: I'm sure at this point in his career he wants to go to a team he thinks has a shot at winning it all. He played against Miami 3xs this year. Read between the lines. A Poyer on a Miami team certainly bolsters their chances to dethrone the Bills. They was very close to doing it last year 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: I'm sure at this point in his career he wants to go to a team he thinks has a shot at winning it all. He played against Miami 3xs this year. Read between the lines. A Poyer on a Miami team certainly bolsters their chances to dethrone the Bills. I don't think Poyer is walking because he thinks Miami is better than Buffalo. He is walking because the Bills don't want to pay him. 4 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Chaos said: There are 50 different income state tax codes. They range from a top rate of zero percent in several states to 13.3% in California. In NYS the state income tax on $10MM would 964,000. I Florida, it would be zero. That might make a difference in decision making. I wonder how roster bonuses and signing bonuses get taxed by state. If they have residence in Florida - I wonder if thats zero tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said: I wonder how roster bonuses and signing bonuses get taxed by state. If they have residence in Florida - I wonder if thats zero tax. It is taxed based on where you earn the Money. NYS certainly taxes the bonuses for Bills players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: Poyer is done. He’s played great for us, a true warrior. But he’s an aging vet playing through multiple injuries who’s looking to get paid. I get it from his point of view, but unless he comes back on a somewhat team friendly deal I can’t see us retaining him. I agree with this. It's a shame, he put everything on the line for this team, but father time is undefeated, its a shame that team two years ago was sabotaged by it's own coaching staff with seconds left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I'm sure at this point in his career he wants to go to a team he thinks has a shot at winning it all. He played against Miami 3xs this year. Read between the lines. A Poyer on a Miami team certainly bolsters their chances to dethrone the Bills. and Fangio is a great DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chaos said: It is taxed based on where you earn the Money. NYS certainly taxes the bonuses for Bills players. https://www.hodgsonruss.com/media/publication/434_How States Handle Signing Bonuses for Athletes.pdf This is a very interesting article. BLUF - it appears that signing bonuses are taxed based on your residency at the time they are paid. So an athlete with residence in florida will not pay tax on a signing bonus. Interesting....they even use a NY example in this article with court cases to support it. Intresting. Im sure NFL players, teams and their agents and CPAs are all over the legalities of htis. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chaos said: There are 50 different income state tax codes. They range from a top rate of zero percent in several states to 13.3% in California. In NYS the state income tax on $10MM would 964,000. I Florida, it would be zero. That might make a difference in decision making. This would be true only if rich people didn’t have tax professionals on their payroll who know how to exploit the code to where they pay less tax than an E-1 in the military. No I’m not kidding. My active duty Navy cousin paid $1,300 to the federal government and $600 to the state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Can’t wait to see Mrs. Poyer in a Dolphins bikini. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: This would be true only if rich people didn’t have tax professionals on their payroll who know how to exploit the code to where they pay less tax than an E-1 in the military. No I’m not kidding. My active duty Navy cousin paid $1,300 to the federal government and $600 to the state. I’m not sure I understand. Do you think your cousin paid a lot? Or a little? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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