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3 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:


He MUST do this. He just must, if he wants to keep his job. He isn’t the owner. He answers to somebody. He’s not allowed to just singlehandedly drive a team into the ground. It’s not his business to ruin. That’s not his responsibility. If he was any kind of a MAN with character — the very code he insists he works and lives by — then empower better coordinators, and be the best HC you can be. Give up the scheming… your defensive has gotten clobbered the past three exit playoff games. 

Are you kidding. Terry works for him. McD can just throw 17 year drought at him 

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1 hour ago, PaulieYayo said:

I’ll be surprised if he has the onions to fire the DC, everyone at OBD is too much in love with each other. If 13 seconds wasn’t a fireable offense, I don’t know what is. 

How about the defense needs new players not so much play calling. If you can’t tackle. You can’t tackle

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2 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

Wow, i suppose you have combed our entire roster and all the Bengals to come to that conclusion. Feelings are raw right now but man you need some perspective. By the way most all on the field today dominated in High School.

Joe Burrow played as the starting QB in the OHSAA state championship game. For him, that was a bigger game than the one today. in the south and midwest, HS and college football is bigger than the NFL. Learning how to play in those game early in life is good preparation for an NFL playoff game.

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24 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

So who are you going to get?? Because I can tell you Payton ain’t coming here. No one’s going to give up their entire draft for a HC who rode the tails of HOF QB and failed to do anything after him and left his franchise in a ***** load of debt because his stupid overspending


Bills don’t have a mid to late first round pick this year? Entire draft — huh?? Pegula can’t pay a HC $20mil a year. What’s he, a shifter manager at Cinnamon Bun?
 

How are the Bills not in a position to get Peyton, besides them making bad choices?

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2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Joe Burrow played as the starting QB in the OHSAA state championship game. For him, that was a bigger game than the one today. in the south and midwest, HS and college football is bigger than the NFL. Learning how to play in those game early in life is good preparation for an NFL playoff game.

Didn't help him at Ohio State did it.

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1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

Pretty sure they arent going anywhere

The Bills????

Because making the playoffs and losing a game that was won followed by getting steamrolled by a team at home while all facets of your team looked mediocre at best doesn’t speak to an arrow that’s pointing up🤔

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Did the Bills get so obsessed on building a team to beat the Kansas City Chiefs that they developed tunnel vision to all else within the conference? The Bengals are the king of the hill and Jacksonville is about to join them.

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35 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

So who are you going to get?? Because I can tell you Payton ain’t coming here. No one’s going to give up their entire draft for a HC who rode the tails of HOF QB and failed to do anything after him and left his franchise in a ***** load of debt because his stupid overspending

Frank HC Vic Fangio DC .. OC whoever Frank picks since he mentored Sirianni for several years. Beane brought in JA he gets one more coaching regime. 

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I have never been a big fan of McClappy but even I do not think he deserves to be fired.

 

The problem with this team is we got beat at the line of scrimmage. Our offensive line is holding back both Josh and the RBs. Our defensive line has had issues stopping the run and got bullied in the run game today.  Pretty simple to me.

 

Just my two cents.

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23 minutes ago, gr8billsfan said:

How about the defense needs new players not so much play calling. If you can’t tackle. You can’t tackle

The coaches also need to put players in the right positions to be successful. There were way too many Bengals wide open with no one around them the entire game. The schemes are bad and the players aren’t executing…time for a new voice 

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31 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Josh Allen is my favorite player. I spent $170 on a shirt with Allen's name on it, but I'm just tired of the losing. The Bengals roster is constructed with guys that won at all levels of football. Winning in pee-wee begets winning in HS and winning in HS begets winning and college. College winners tend to win in the NFL. The Bills have a bunch of guys that have never won at any level but have elite physical traits. Who won today?

Let’s see some data on that. You just saying it means nothing. JA allowed Wyoming to be relevant and to a bowl game at 8-5. He’s doing the same with the Bills. Did you see the players Burrow was throwing to at LSU? The 
NFL is literally full of teams with various backgrounds and records. Wilson the Bengals LB also went to Wyoming. Jessie Bates went to Wake Forrest, Karas went to that Big 10 powerhouse Illinois. Hayden Hurst went to South Carolina. Others starters today from Kansas, Humboldt State, and Florida Atlantic. Should I go on ? 

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41 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said:

Wow, i suppose you have combed our entire roster and all the Bengals to come to that conclusion. Feelings are raw right now but man you need some perspective. By the way most all on the field today dominated in High School.

JA won in HS and was 16-9 as a starter at that powerhouse Wyoming. The Bengals with the # 1 and # 5 overall picks took Burrow and Chase from LSU. So what! I’ve listed multiple significant staters on the Bengals who didn’t go to college juggernaut teams. Mahomes record in college was 12-13. It just doesn’t apply in the NFL. Is it helpful ? Sure but many many examples of just the opposite. 

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1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

McDermott deserves another year but both coordinators need to go 

Yep.

 

I was NEVER one of those "fire the coaches" guys on here. But I was pissed all game. They were outschemed. Totally. Both sides of the ball.

 

And watching the 49ers, Bengals, Chiefs, etc. you just see what great designs can do offensively. Did Chase score his TD because he out sped everyone and had an amazing grab? NO. He was all alone! So was Hurst many times. Schemes. Movement before the snap. 

Bunch formations. Creativity. 

 

One thing that's all on the players, or on Beane if you really want to go there, is the DLine. How come they were completely outclassed by a patchwork OLine? Still, once you see the front 4 can't do it, blitz! Do something!

 

What bugs me the most of this awful defeat, is that unless there is a big splash in free agency, or a surprise star in the draft, or OC/DC change for the better, it just feels the Bills are among the 5th-7th best teams in the league, but far from the #1. It sucks.

 

As for the Allen haters, sorry for you but the guy is a star and that wasn't on him. The coaches and DLine let the team down.

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47 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Joe Burrow played as the starting QB in the OHSAA state championship game. For him, that was a bigger game than the one today. in the south and midwest, HS and college football is bigger than the NFL. Learning how to play in those game early in life is good preparation for an NFL playoff game.

You’re serious right ? And then he played at Ohio State (where he transferred out of) and went to an NFL loaded LSU team. Good for him. You lost me at the the Ohio state hs game is more important than todays game. 

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44 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Joe Burrow played as the starting QB in the OHSAA state championship game. For him, that was a bigger game than the one today. in the south and midwest, HS and college football is bigger than the NFL. Learning how to play in those game early in life is good preparation for an NFL playoff game.


I watched Josh Rosen lead the best high school I’ve ever seen to a National Title. I get what you’re selling here, but Joe Burrow isn’t great because he won a state championship, but sure, it’s part of him. Just like it’s part of Rosen. 
 

Did Mahomes win a Natty at Lubbock?

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1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said:

The Bengals are the class of the AFC because they are full of winners. We've got a bunch of losers with "traits." 

Get a grip! The Bengals outschemed the Bills coaches, and the Bills DLine decided to have their worst game. But the Bengals had the 11th offense this season, and you saw amazing display of skills? No, we saw great Xs and Os by their coaches, and their patchwork OLine dominated. Bengals are NOT unbeatable, far from it.

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3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Yeah this is just stupid.   They dont "have to go" because they arent going anywhere.    They've made the playoffs in 5 of the 6 years, won a higher percentage of regular season games than any coach and GM combo in Bills history, and drafted a franchise QB.   Pretty sure they arent going anywhere.

Eagles: They go rid of a HC that won them a Super Bowl.

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14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Eagles: They go rid of a HC that won them a Super Bowl.

Curious if they are eliminated next week was it a failure?i mean they are several years removed from that win and a whole different team now. I think they are exciting to watch, but when DC Comms light you up it might be a sign or a farce. I think they are good, just curious. Also Doug showed he’sa good coach, was outmatched, still hung in there with an over achieving team loaded with high picks. 

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What gives you any faith that we can draft any talent? Zay Jones? Cody ford? Epenesa? Rousseau? Bashsam? 5 picks that should be making impacts and they’re not

 

edit; Zack Moss 
Edit; Wyatt Teller

Beane? Got to go

 

worst part Schoen and Daboll are in NJ

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Beane is going nowhere.

 

After the job McDermott did this year holding the team together, he is going nowhere.  
 

Frazier?  Unless Sean’s job was on the line, he’s not firing Frazier. We may have been a top rated defense this year, but a change would be good.  Need more out of the defensive line for sure.  Need to stop giving up huge amounts of yards.  Bend-don’t beak isn’t good enough.

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 I like reading everyones opinions. As far as Offensive and defensive coordinators go I am open to changes.  Having said that 

 

Both lines yesterday were soundly beaten. Just what to do to make this team Better aka competitive with teams like we have

played in the playoffs?

 

Draft several OL prospects. The uglier the better. Mean and nasty ones who won't be trifled by anyone they face. OBVIOUS NEED

 

Get Micah Hyde and Von Miller back in the lineup. Instant defensive  improvement right? Right. 

 

that's all Ive got on a blue monday. I dont like my team being beat like dogs on national TV. NOT a good look.  We got mauled.

 

 

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23 hours ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Curious if they are eliminated next week was it a failure?i mean they are several years removed from that win and a whole different team now. I think they are exciting to watch, but when DC Comms light you up it might be a sign or a farce. I think they are good, just curious. Also Doug showed he’sa good coach, was outmatched, still hung in there with an over achieving team loaded with high picks. 

Not a failure at all since Sirianni only been there a year ago. McDermott has this freak of nature QB landed on his lap and didn't do anything to help him for all those years. That alone is a fireable offense. Bills could have had at least one or two rings if he gave Allen some help when he first got drafted instead of wasting all that money and draft picks on defense...so he can StOp MaHoMeS...

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On 1/22/2023 at 8:30 PM, ngbills said:

People who are quick to criticize ask this question. Remove Allen and what have they done that is impressive? Is there a scheme? Is there winning when your qb is out? Unique capabilities? How often do we our coach other teams? 

Im not for lighting the torches and firing everyone, however I do think its foolish not to have a discussion with Frank Reich and Byron Leftwich on a OC position, Even Anthony Lynn or Greg Roman would be an upgrade over Dorsey. 

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On 1/22/2023 at 8:09 PM, PepeSilvia said:

McDermott is terrible situationally. 
 

Beane has consistently whiffed on early round draft picks.

 

we don’t have any difference makers on any level of defense for a defensive head coach lead team (besides a 34 year old 140 million dollar DE with a bad knee)

 

you can’t miss on that many draft picks and expect to have a good team


#17 is so good he makes up for a lot of weaknesses on this team until you play a team who can expose them

 

6 years going on 7 and the o line, d line are soft. We don’t have any playmakers/difference makers besides Allen and diggs and there’s no salary cap space

 

This isn’t a one off season fix. Teams in our own division are getting better. We’re going to take a step back before we move forward 

 

 

 

 

I also firmly believe we let the best coach on the staff left for NY and we’re going to feel the backlash for years to come

Fire McDermott and he will have a head coaching job before he exits the building. 

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On 1/22/2023 at 10:22 PM, Peter said:

I have never been a big fan of McClappy but even I do not think he deserves to be fired.

 

The problem with this team is we got beat at the line of scrimmage. Our offensive line is holding back both Josh and the RBs. Our defensive line has had issues stopping the run and got bullied in the run game today.  Pretty simple to me.

 

Just my two cents.

Yes you build a team from the inside out, no investments in the Oline and our Dline pics for the most part haven't been successful 

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