Texas RB Bijan Robinson

[ArtVandalay]

I'll be fully supportive of getting value at the end of the first with a great talent at a position that is generally downgraded in the draft like G, C, S, LB..  all positions of need as well (except C unless Morse is cut).

 

We took Cook last year he looks great, no need to draft RB.

 

Knox monster contract means don't bother with TE.

 

I would also be a fan of trading down or trading for a future 1st given the cap situation next year. 

[Dopey]

On 1/20/2023 at 10:28 AM, CapeBreton said:

 

When Pittsburgh drafts a WR in the second round, they're a guaranteed stud. When the Bills draft a WR in the second round, they get Zay Jones lol. The team is probably still traumatized from that.

82 rec over 800 yds and 5 tds this regular season. We could have used that. It just didn’t work out for him here. Not a bad pick overall. 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Only because of the 5 year shelf life most RBs are destined to play. I still think there's an outside chance CMC gets there. Especially if he has a SB win on his resume

 

 

They have such short shelf lives now because the best RB's of today aren't the elite football players that used to man the position.     They are the Kenny Davis types not the Thurman Thomas types.    The elite RB talents of yesteryear now play defense or are receivers or QB's..........because that's where the money is.    The guys who play RB now usually don't have the size or the speed to play elsewhere.

[RyanC883]

On 1/20/2023 at 7:50 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So what do you do with the RB that you used a 2nd round pick on and is averaging 5.7 yards per carry?     Give them the same split Cook has with Singletary?   Take the ball out of the hands of your QB to average about 2-3 yards less per play than throwing it at a 7.6 yards per attempt clip?

 

For guys like Jeremiah it's just a thoughtless pick.

 

The Bills have a franchise QB who has taken a beating the past two seasons but the answer isn't to run the ball more.   It's block better and give him more receivers who win matchups so he can go back to being that guy he was in 2020 who was making huge plays in the passing game while also completing nearly 70% of his passes and looked like he had 15 elite years in front of him.

 

the issue is no good WRs are projected to be available at the end of round 1.  Robinson is the likely BPA, and a different back than Cook. Drafting for need is why we have Basham over Humphrey, which oddly now is a need.  

[John from Riverside]

Was watching Landon Dickerson the guard for the Eagles playing today. Give me one of those please

[NewEra]

O/U set @ 110 on total pages prior to draft.  

[John from Riverside]

11 hours ago, Dopey said:

82 rec over 800 yds and 5 tds this regular season. We could have used that. It just didn’t work out for him here. Not a bad pick overall. 

Those sound like Gabe Davis numbers

[Dopey]

6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Those sound like Gabe Davis numbers

Zay:  68% catch rate

Gabe: 51% catch rate

Gabe needs to tighten up 

Edited January 22, 2023 by Dopey

[DCOrange]

It would be insanely frustrating if a team as good as ours is spent a 4th valuable draft pick on a RB. We’ve already poured way too many assets into the position. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Was watching Landon Dickerson the guard for the Eagles playing today. Give me one of those please

I agree but the draft this year doesn't line up at pick 30-32 with a guy like that. The only few late 1st round types are slow power blocking scheme types. Now, I think there is a good handful of free agent interior guys....does Beane restructure a few contracts and free up some cash? Might have to do it that way this time around.

[John from Riverside]

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12 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

It would be insanely frustrating if a team as good as ours is spent a 4th valuable draft pick on a RB. We’ve already poured way too many assets into the position. 

But we’re about to lose a running back, possibly in Singletary
 

I love cook I don’t mind Hines. It bothers me a little bit that cook has never been a full-time back and is a little bit slight. I would feel much better if he gained 10 pounds in the off-season but I also don’t know how that would affect his speed

 

 If we lose motor would not be shocked if we drafted a running back

[DCOrange]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

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But we’re about to lose a running back, possibly in Singletary
 

I love cook I don’t mind Hines. It bothers me a little bit that cook has never been a full-time back and is a little bit slight. I would feel much better if he gained 10 pounds in the off-season but I also don’t know how that would affect his speed

 

 If we lose motor would not be shocked if we drafted a running back

If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum.

[John from Riverside]

22 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Zay:  68% catch rate

Gabe: 51% catch rate

Gabe needs to tighten up 

I was speaking more to the yards and touchdowns

Just now, DCOrange said:

If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum.

I personally liked Duke Johnson, who got no burn with us this year

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum.

Yeah... Somebody like Zach "business decision" Moss. Give me a break

[DCOrange]

29 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Yeah... Somebody like Zach "business decision" Moss. Give me a break

Yes I would definitely rather have Moss than Bijan considering the opportunity cost. The only 1st round picks that would definitely upset me more than Bijan would be a different RB, QB, kicker, punter, kick returner, or long snapper.

Edited January 22, 2023 by DCOrange

[BADOLBILZ]

22 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

the issue is no good WRs are projected to be available at the end of round 1.  Robinson is the likely BPA, and a different back than Cook. Drafting for need is why we have Basham over Humphrey, which oddly now is a need.  

 

 

I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous.   But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only.    RB is not one of those.   Guard isn't either.   Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset.    Trade up?   Trade back?   Trade it for a proven player?   

[1onemangang7]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous.   But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only.    RB is not one of those.   Guard isn't either.   Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset.    Trade up?   Trade back?   Trade it for a proven player?   

The entire football world can see the Buffalo Bills dont have a runner so these guys keep getting mocked to the Bills in the first round.  I agree you have legit point on the economics.  I agree they could have found a solution on another teams practice squad.  Your arguments come with the premise they know how to navigate it, and the frustration with the fans is they can see the need so why cant the Bills brass. 

[RyanC883]

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous.   But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only.    RB is not one of those.   Guard isn't either.   Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset.    Trade up?   Trade back?   Trade it for a proven player?   

 

I generally agree that RB isn’t, but if he is a Henry/Barkey/McCaffery talent I’d take him.  Otherwise trade back, or better, trade up for a stud OT or WR (our bigger needs).  We have a bad draft slot currently it looks like (assuming Bean actually picks the right player) 

[Nitro]

Need interior O linemen and WR.  RB is a luxury they can not afford.  

[1onemangang7]

2 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Need interior O linemen and WR.  RB is a luxury they can not afford.  

Yeah, the qb can handle the running duties again. We can draft another midget stick figure pass catching rb later rounds . 

[CapeBreton]

Hopefully he is drafted well before we pick and he's not even an option, because this team has much bigger needs pretty much everywhere else. Even though our RBs are very average right now.

[DCOrange]

14 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Yeah, the qb can handle the running duties again. We can draft another midget stick figure pass catching rb later rounds . 

Our RBs ran for over 1400 yards this year. How much do you think we’d realistically get with a better RB? 

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Our RBs ran for over 1400 yards this year. How much do you think we’d realistically get with a better RB? 

To me, it's not about year over year stat production. It's about specific games and big moments like yesterday. They need additional game-changers wherever they can get them, so that when Josh, Diggs are off, the offense can pivot and someone else takes over. Whether it's WR, TE, or RB, that doesn't matter. An elite RB like McAffrey, Barkley, Chubb, Henry etc would've definitely made a difference yesterday. Regardless of yearly production having that extra star gets you further in the playoffs.

[DCOrange]

15 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

To me, it's not about year over year stat production. It's about specific games and big moments like yesterday. They need additional game-changers wherever they can get them, so that when Josh, Diggs are off, the offense can pivot and someone else takes over. Whether it's WR, TE, or RB, that doesn't matter. An elite RB like McAffrey, Barkley, Chubb, Henry etc would've definitely made a difference yesterday. Regardless of yearly production having that extra star gets you further in the playoffs.

I don’t think there’s really any reason to think they would have made the difference and I don’t we’re in a position where we can afford to find out. 

[Big Turk]

You don't draft RBs in the 1st round if you want to not waste draft picks.

[1onemangang7]

50 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

Our RBs ran for over 1400 yards this year. How much do you think we’d realistically get with a better RB? 

More wins

[gobills404]

I’ve been firmly against drafting a 1st round RB the past several years and still am. That being said, I’d MUCH rather draft Bijan over another middling defender. Still hoping for OL or WR though.

[Solomon Grundy]

53 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

You don't draft RBs in the 1st round if you want to not waste draft picks.

If that RB gives you outstanding production for 5 years, why not? To compliment your stud QB, help take the load off of him. 

[1onemangang7]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

To me, it's not about year over year stat production. It's about specific games and big moments like yesterday. They need additional game-changers wherever they can get them, so that when Josh, Diggs are off, the offense can pivot and someone else takes over. Whether it's WR, TE, or RB, that doesn't matter. An elite RB like McAffrey, Barkley, Chubb, Henry etc would've definitely made a difference yesterday. Regardless of yearly production having that extra star gets you further in the playoffs.

Those fantasy football guys have no clue 

[TheBeaneBandit]

I know the game has changed but if (and yeah I know this ain't happening) say the Bills move some money and sign 2 free agent offensive lineman ( guys entering their prime not on their last leg) I would support Robinson (if he fell, a big if). These moves could completely rebalance the offense. Cook could stay where he belongs as a change of pace back. 

[Nitro]

7 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Yeah, the qb can handle the running duties again. We can draft another midget stick figure pass catching rb later rounds . 

RB  is taken care of with Cook.  SIngletary probably will walk.  O line is a major need as is a number 2 WR.  They may bring in a FA to add depth.  Holes will be made in the rosters turn over which averages 25-30% in the NFL.  

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 hour ago, Nitro said:

RB  is taken care of with Cook.  SIngletary probably will walk.  O line is a major need as is a number 2 WR.  They may bring in a FA to add depth.  Holes will be made in the rosters turn over which averages 25-30% in the NFL.  

Cook is a change of pace back. His receiving skills were kind of a big disappointment as well.

[LabattBlue]

Amazing all the draft capital BB has spent on Singletary, Moss, Hines & Cook, and none of them are as good as Punk Pacheco who the Chiefs drafted in the 7th round this past April. 
 

BB gets a lot of praise for building a great roster with difficult cuts to make come the start of every season, but whenever our backups come in, they all seem to play below average….except the ones that get away like Teller and Hodgins. 

[Warcodered]

So this is the new Breece Hall thread?

[TheFunPolice]

would he look great standing on the sidelines in street clothes? 

 

Cause you know we don't play rookies around here 

[Big Turk]

We are done with RB drafting in early rounds. I want Boston College WR Zay Flowers...Cheetah Lite.  Same height, build and slightly slower than Hill with slightly less change of direction abilities but still crazy nonetheless. Runs a 4.37 40.

 

Edited January 23, 2023 by Big Turk

[1onemangang7]

2 hours ago, Nitro said:

RB  is taken care of with Cook.  SIngletary probably will walk.  O line is a major need as is a number 2 WR.  They may bring in a FA to add depth.  Holes will be made in the rosters turn over which averages 25-30% in the NFL.  

Cook is a bust.  

[Solomon Grundy]

Bijan is an every down RB that can split out wide and threaten a defense deep. He's the weapon Beane wanted in McKissic

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

would he look great standing on the sidelines in street clothes? 

 

Cause you know we don't play rookies around here 

That’s about to change
You can’t pay a franchise QB money and not play your draft picks

3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Bijan is an every down RB that can split out wide and threaten a defense deep. He's the weapon Beane wanted in McKissic

That’s interesting I thought cook was our McKissick

4 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Cook is a bust.  

He most certainly is not

[Nitro]

5 hours ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Cook is a bust.  

That is an inane take.