MJS Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 That's so awesome. Love it. I think coaches are trying to adjust throughout the game, but they actually have a few minutes to sit down and think through things (separate from the players) and perhaps decide on a few things to try during halftime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 He’s right. Most adjustments are made while the game is in progress. Coaches and players aren’t on the sidelines pouring over all those still photos and replays on their tablets for nothing. I guarantee Manning made countless adjustments during his career, just not at halftime. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 With the amount of resources (people/money/technology) there is no way teams wait til halftime to make adjustments. I am sure some happen at halftime but some happen at 9:31 of Q2 also and pretty much any time they can change the plan strategically. What do you think is happening when guys have tablets and coaches have the position group together? There is just as much ore more time between drives. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fyi, the Bills visitor locker room only has 1 toilet stall and a couple of urinals. Halftime is 15 min. Enjoy Bengals! Maybe Ralph’s finest, cheapest move. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Josh in a interview with Kyle Brandt today was asked about what Manning said, Allen said it pretty much accurate, they only have about 6-7 minutes to regroup and depending on the stadium and where Dorsey has to come from they only get about 2 min to go over what’s working offensively and what’s hurting them. And then its like ok let’s go out and execute this better. That’s about it, no magic half time adjustment, where they are drawing up plays on a whiteboard. I thought it was pretty interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, 0017 said: Josh in a interview with Kyle Brandt today was asked about what Manning said, Allen said it pretty much accurate, they only have about 6-7 minutes to regroup and depending on the stadium and where Dorsey has to come from they only get about 2 min to go over what’s working offensively and what’s hurting them. And then its like ok let’s go out and execute this better. That’s about it, no magic half time adjustment, where they are drawing up plays on a whiteboard. I thought it was pretty interesting. All this realism is disappointing. I liked the notion that if my team was sucking, there was a chance the magic half-time genie would work some magic. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The Bengals come out of the locker room after HT of the AFC CG and started rushing only three and dropping eight. That wasn't a HT adjustment? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I’ve always assumed cusches adjusted game plans. What does that have to do with the players? OC decides to pass more, calls more pass plays, players execute. There’s no meeting that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fyi, the Bills visitor locker room only has 1 toilet stall and a couple of urinals. Halftime is 15 min. Enjoy Bengals! They probably pee in the showers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Fyi, the Bills visitor locker room only has 1 toilet stall and a couple of urinals. Halftime is 15 min. Enjoy Bengals! Actually, halftime was reduced to 12 minutes a few years ago, making it unlikely to be able to do much of anything. It could’ve been an interesting segment to show on Hard Knocks in season. I only recall one segment this season where they were already in the locker room and Kingsbury was barking that they needed to get back out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Was Jimmy Johnson lying..... Were his lips moving? Then yes. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Simon said: Were his lips moving? Then yes. I am sure though he has lied with his lips not moving as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: They probably pee in the showers. Sinks .. I’ve been to the stadium. “No more adjustments are made at halftime than are made on the sidelines in quarters 1 through 4.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol, I've spent very little time here. Let me make this clearer. Halftime adjustments are 100% factual, real, and take place in all levels of football within the coaching staff. I don't even know why you are arguing that fact. I mean coaches literally refer to this on a regular basis of needing to make some adjustments in the 2nd half when being interviewed before the half, or after the game of having had made adjustments in the 2nd half. Thread title says halftime adjustments are a myth. No they are not. That is the point, and ask any coach. It may be a Myth that players make some sort of adjustment, but I don't think any reasonable fan or person ever one time thought it was the players themselves making some sort of magical adjustment individually. It has always been understood to mean coaches make adjustments, not players. The thread is quoting a player who said it's a myth that coaches and players get together at halftime and make adjustments---many in its public likely assume this was a real thing (that's why he was asked--read the link). Another posted link quoted a HC who said the same thing. You blundered into attacking Manning for something he didn't say and now you keep trying to change the topic to make your point (which no one is refuting anyway). I get it. You painted yourself into this corner--unforced error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: The Bengals come out of the locker room after HT of the AFC CG and started rushing only three and dropping eight. That wasn't a HT adjustment? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The thread is quoting a player who said it's a myth that coaches and players get together at halftime and make adjustments---many in its public likely assume this was a real thing (that's why he was asked--read the link). Another posted link quoted a HC who said the same thing. You blundered into attacking Manning for something he didn't say and now you keep trying to change the topic to make your point (which no one is refuting anyway). I get it. You painted yourself into this corner--unforced error. Lol...or you twisted my comments to be something they werent when I was directly addressing the topic of this thread. Theres that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: Actually, halftime was reduced to 12 minutes a few years ago, making it unlikely to be able to do much of anything. It could’ve been an interesting segment to show on Hard Knocks in season. I only recall one segment this season where they were already in the locker room and Kingsbury was barking that they needed to get back out there. Thanks for that info, didn't realize that---I thought cuz I was older it just took me longer to pee & restock the coolers. I remember back in the day, they used to talk about Joe Gibbs making great half time adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Peyton's biggest weakness as a player actually imo was he didnt fare well with adjustments. I think he may very well have been the most detail oriented QB in the history of the league so as to avoid dealing with adjustments. I thought I recall a story the dude had like a good amount of his home set up to study game film. Case in point that one superbowl against the Seahawks in New Jersey. The first play of the game was a safety against the Broncos. And after that that day he was shot. Forget it. It was over at that point and he couldn't adjust. So I totally respect the dudes accomplishments but this sounds like a case he's projecting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Lol...or you twisted my comments to be something they werent when I was directly addressing the topic of this thread. Theres that too. nothing to twist. maybe you should start a thread that discusses what you are discussing. Something like: "Coaches make halftime adjustments in every single game somewhere other than the locker room, amongst themselves, in the few minutes they have together after the OC comes down from his booth and drives his golf cart in to the home team's tunnel" That would give you the traction you are seeking, I bet. Just now, Another Fan said: Peyton's biggest weakness as a player actually imo was he didnt fare well with adjustments. I think he may very well have been the most detail oriented QB in the history of the league so as to avoid dealing with adjustments. I thought I recall a story the dude had like a good amount of his home set up to study game film. Case in point that one superbowl against the Seahawks in New Jersey. The first play of the game was a safety against the Broncos. And after that that day he was shot. Forget it. It was over at that point and he couldn't adjust. So I totally respect the dudes accomplishments but this sounds like a case he's projecting his career died that day, I remember... 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: The Bengals come out of the locker room after HT of the AFC CG and started rushing only three and dropping eight. That wasn't a HT adjustment? why would they wait until halftime to do that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: nothing to twist. maybe you should start a thread that discusses what you are discussing. Something like: "Coaches make halftime adjustments in every single game somewhere other than the locker room, amongst themselves, in the few minutes they have together after the OC comes down from his booth and drives his golf cart in to the home team's tunnel" That would give you the traction you are seeking, I bet. his career died that day, I remember... why would they wait until halftime to do that? I don't know, but they did. But that game was weird. If the Chiefs score a TD at the end of the first half, the Chiefs probably go to the Super Bowl and Tyreek Hill is still a member of the Chiefs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I agree with Peyton. When I went to the games at halftime would leave my seats, go up the ramp and get high with some friends....talk a couple of minutes and get back to my seat..barely made 3rd qtr kickoff. Not a lot of time during haltime 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Half time is for PB&J sammiches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 hours ago, WhoTom said: I was under the impression that the coordinators made adjustments to their play-calling at halftime based on what they saw in the first half. This wouldn't necessarily involve the players. Something they obviously also kept secret from Peyton Manning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: The Bengals come out of the locker room after HT of the AFC CG and started rushing only three and dropping eight. That wasn't a HT adjustment You see them doing these changes each series, quarter, half. 2Q just happens to be where stark realization sets in that crap ain’t working. They have contingencies ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Three of the most famous half-time adjustments that I can recall are from three playoff games. These are from my memory of the newspapers from Super Bowl week, which they kindly saved for me for when I went back home from Lansing. Buffalo 41 - Houston 38 (F/OT): The Bills shelved their dime defence for the base 3-4 in the 2nd half. IMHO, that is why the defence was better after halftime. Buffalo 29 - Los Angeles 23: the Bills put SS Henry Jones in the run box because Walt Corey had been told that the Raiders' QB was having trouble reading the winds and dealing with the cold simultaneously. Again, the defence was far better in the 2nd half. Buffalo 30 - Kansas City 13: the Bills altered their coverage in the secondary to play shorter with only Mark Kelso designed to handle anything deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Well, at least for the Bills vs. Cinci yesterday, Peyton Manning has been proven correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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