Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[Seventeen]

5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Ages ranged from 1 to 38 (mean 12) with 70% < 16 years old

 

not all were kids...

 

She retweeted it from Dan Kaplan who is a writer for The Athletic, who is followed by every Farrar, Rappaport, Jim Nagy, Dr. Chao, Amy Trask, Joe Banner, Breer, Pete Prisco, Shcefter, Peter King, Rich Eisen etc... and added the part of the study that showed the mortality rate of the 69 people included in the study

 

Thanks - Kaplan's tweet said "69 well characterized cases in youth sports" - guess I should have read the study. 

 

In any event, we still don't know if Hamlin suffered from commotio cordis. 

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said:

I had seasons when Everett happened, I think about it every time I go back to the stadium, this brought me right back to what it was like being there. There was one clip of Sean last night it looked like he was saying "oh my god oh my god oh my god" like 50 times in a 5 second close up...Seeing Sean freak out really got me and TRe - I hope they are all taking care of themselves the best they can...

 

This is just awful

I was also at that game balling in the stands. As bad as that was , this brought me right back to that moment but it's actually worse this time. If that's even possible. 

[YoloinOhio]

6 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Whoa

On January 3rd!!

[HurlyBurly51]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I was hoping to see this regarding proceeds for his jersey sales being donated.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

30 minutes ago, Beast said:

I guess I’ll ask.

 

Who is Lori Chase and does she have medical credentials? Sorry for being ignorant but I have no idea who she is. I take she is saying Damar has a 10% chance of surviving this?

No.  That is only if the cause of the cardiac arrest was commotio cordis which a blow to the chest causing thew heart to go into an ineffective rhythm.  It's better for other possibilities.  we don't know what the cause was at this point.  It's possible we 'll never know for sure.

[ndirish1978]

14 minutes ago, eSJayDee said:

Is she the Lori that used to frequent here before being scared/annoyed off?  She was some sort of like small town journalist wasn't she?

 

It's her. She is a retired reporter, not a doctor and IMO incredibly misguided in posting some study with conditions completely unlike what happened to Hamlin. 

[MasterStrategist]

Everyone posting about commotio cordis, or other theories are purely speculating.  That is not what is needed right now.  Just calling attention to the fact that there are a variety of possibilities (all related to irregular heartbeat): afib, cad, etc.

 

What is needed now is continued support/prayer/positive energy, anything but speculation.  Please be patient and wait for factual information to be released by Damar's family, representation, or the Bills directly.  They have been providing updates throughout the day, and will continue to do so.

 

Just unhealthy and unnecessary to speculate, especially when many of us are already deeply concerned.

[NoSaint]

7 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Without looking into all of those 69 cases - who knows? The second resuscitation at the hospital is very worrisome along with how much time did his brain go without oxygen

Yea, I think mixed news today, but any progress is huge… hopefully the oxygen numbers are a step towards life, and figuring the rest out from there. Also felt good to read cautious optimism shared with the team.

Edited January 4, 2023 by NoSaint

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Whoa

On January 3rd!!

 

I'm taking this as a very good omen.

[CorkScrewHill]

NFL network interview with Damar Hamlin's uncle.

 

A really good interview .. seems cautiously optimistic.

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/damar-hamlin-s-uncle-dorrian-glenn-gives-an-update-on-his-nephew-s-status

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Without looking into all of those 69 cases - who knows? The second resuscitation at the hospital is very worrisome along with how much time did his brain go without oxygen

Is the second resuscitation confirmed by any reputable news sources? I haven’t heard anything about that 

[JGMcD2]

Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Is the second resuscitation confirmed by any reputable news sources? I haven’t heard anything about that 

His Uncle on CNN 

[ArtVandalay]

4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

WTF it is not my article, just because I post a tweet does not make everything contained with in it mine. I am not the defender of the tweet (I didn't tweet it or find the information in the first place), the only thing I am defending on here, if you will, is people running with an assumption that isn't even in the post.  I mean if you are going to comment on something at least read it and be factual with it...FFS

Okay sorry, the article you are referring to, sorry that distinction upset you. 

 

I did read what you posted and was talking to the content in it and measures that have taken place to improve survival. Updated info posted, which contains the 58% survival i recently referred to. 

 

No need to be defensive or upset. Lots of info floating around some old and ever changing outside of what people are accustomed to discussing. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Whoa

On January 3rd!!

 

 It's a sign, I tell ya!!

 

                             #3

 

 

[RyanC883]

8 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

I was hoping to see this regarding proceeds for his jersey sales being donated.

 

wow.  Dude is going to be the Santa of Pgh.  Interestingly former NFL player Charlie Batch (also from Pgh) has a charity that does a similar thing (among other things). Perhaps Charlie can help Hamlin out with the logistics of it all.  

[Royale with Cheese]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Whoa

On January 3rd!!

This is going to be one hell of a 30 for 30 after we win the Super Bowl.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Everyone posting about commotio cordis, or other theories are purely speculating.  That is not what is needed right now.  Just calling attention to the fact that there are a variety of possibilities (all related to irregular heartbeat): afib, cad, etc.

 

What is needed now is continued support/prayer/positive energy, anything but speculation.  Please be patient and wait for factual information to be released by Damar's family, representation, or the Bills directly.  They have been providing updates throughout the day, and will continue to do so.

 

Just unhealthy and unnecessary to speculate, especially when many of us are already deeply concerned.

There's speculation all over the news often by "experts" who have little or no medical knowledge or experience.  I heard Bob Costas give his opinion tonight.  There are several health care professionals on the board that do have significant experience and knowledge including in critical care.  Better that folks get speculation from someone qualified to at least give a differential diagnosis and understand the mortality stats with each than someone that doesn't.  If folks want to listen to opinions on TV.  I recommend watching Sanjay Gupta on CNN.  He's a neurosurgeon, smart as a whip and speaks plainly.  And neurology is an important aspect of this injury.

Edited January 4, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Captain Hindsight]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I just went to go get one myself and the smallest size they have left is a 2XL. Incredible levels of Support being shown

[CorkScrewHill]

Cincinnati Bengals Play-by-play announcer describing what he saw.

 

I didn't know about the players throwing up.

 

https://www.nfl.com/videos/bengals-radio-analyst-dave-lapham-joins-nfl-total-access-to-discuss-damar-hamlin

[Reed83HOF]

5 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

I know and the article that was quoted was from 97-98. Old info.  I posted the updated, measures like AED installs have increased survival to 58% 

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1547527112012544

The most recent 6 years, survival from commotio cordis was 31 of 53 (58%), with survivor and nonsurvivor curves ultimately crossing. Higher survival rates were associated with more prompt resuscitation (40%<3 minutes vs 5%>3 minutes; P<.001) and participation in competitive sports (39%; P<.001), but with lower rates in African Americans (1 of 24; 4%) than in whites (54 of 166; 33%; P = .004).

 

The survival rates of resuscitation (40% if under 3 minutes which drops to 5% over 3 minutes is concerning. Even with the AED on the field, there have been reports of the medical staff beating on his chest - I assume that's how the efforts began - how long until the had the AED there and his gear off to be able to use the device? Less than 3 minutes or more than?

 

The difference in survival rates between the races is significant - a 4% survival rate for African Americans is very very concerning as well.  As is the 2nd resuscitation at the hospital. I wonder how frequently more than one resuscitation occurred in these cases