BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 With the inconsistency and injuries from Stafford, Rodgers, Wilson, Carr ( not injured but has been wildly inconsistent this year), Watson and now Murray, do other NFL teams look at that and hesitate to sign their QBs to long term deals?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 No, because the fans ultimately pay for bad decisions. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Short answer... nope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: With the inconsistency and injuries from Stafford, Rodgers, Wilson, Carr ( not injured but has been wildly inconsistent this year), Watson and now Murray, do other NFL teams look at that and hesitate to sign their QBs to long term deals?? Probably not. Still a situation where the demand outstrips the supply. Long term deals are more cap friendly and the cost keeps going up. These conditions don’t favor shorter term deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The going rate for an NFL QB is a little bit more than the last NFL QB to get a deal done. I don't think that changes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) No. On a completely unrelated note, though, I am super-totes-cool if Josh Allen doesn't juke defenders anymore and now just simply runs through them every time. Edited December 13, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It's interesting because I think the Ravens are there. They aren't really SB contenders. They are always good not great. Lamar shines some times but hasn't shown he can beat the better teams in the playoffs and has dealt his injuries the last two years. Do you pay him?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, dma0034 said: It's interesting because I think the Ravens are there. They aren't really SB contenders. They are always good not great. Lamar shines some times but hasn't shown he can beat the better teams in the playoffs and has dealt his injuries the last two years. Do you pay him?? Not what he wants. 250 million fully guaranteed for an athlete trying to play QB is not a smart move if I’m the ravens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It may help make Baltimore's decision easier. But somebody is still going to pay Lamar Jackson. Even if Baltimore trades him for 2 firsts & change, whoever gets him is going to give him a Watson-esque contract. That's the problem with these QB contracts, the smart teams won't pay it, but there's enough dumb teams who will pay whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, dma0034 said: It's interesting because I think the Ravens are there. They aren't really SB contenders. They are always good not great. Lamar shines some times but hasn't shown he can beat the better teams in the playoffs and has dealt his injuries the last two years. Do you pay him?? If you don't somebody else will. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 No. QB is the most critical position and worth the gamble if there's a chance you have a good one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think Kyler is a guy who never should have gotten his contract. It’s insane. He could have stayed healthy and that contract still sucks. Stafford, Carr, Rodgers have all been franchise guys and durable for their teams. They’ve been around awhile. Injuries sometimes happen. QB contracts are already over inflated. Imagine paying even more to make up for the uncertainty of a year or two. Generally guys take a little less to get a contract that is a little longer. Russ is his own weird case study. He’s also one of the weirdest dudes in the league. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 nope - never. The NFL created a situation where the QB is the most important position in all of sports and they continue to double down on that. There's zero chance that the market gets any softer for QBs. If you don't have a QB, you might as well not even show up on Sunday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think it will cause teams to hesitate on someone that aren't 100% sold on. I think they weren't sure on Murray but caved. The Ravens haven't caved yet and interested to see how that plays out. I think with teams like the 49ers, Titans, Commanders and Giants...you can still make a postseason run without breaking the bank. Get a good bridge guy and be patient looking for your franchise QB in the draft. Murray is going to hurt the Cardinals long term I feel. The same with Russ Wilson but at least he had a much better body of work prior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Cardinals paid Murray 2 years before they needed to, and before they they'd seen enough to make that decision. Now they're screwed for the foreseeable future. I think teams doing it that early will be over for a while. If teams are reluctant to pay megabucks to a good not great QB, the Seattle strategy is the best move. Trade him for multiple 1st rounders, even if you have to franchise him, and let the next team get hamstrung by that contract. We could see a team like Houston trade both of their 1st rounders for Lamar Jackson, then pay him top dollar. It'd be an idiotic move for them, but a huge win for Baltimore. Ravens would have 3 firsts to get a QB & reload other areas, much better than giving Lamar 40% of your cap. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 You either have a franchise quarterback or you need one in this league. Sometimes teams have to pay the price to see if they’ll be the guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Lamar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Wilson hasn't been inconsistent. He has just plain sucked. Consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Wilson hasn't been inconsistent. He has just plain sucked. Consistently. Not the best example because in the six years after his rookie deal was up, Wilson put up elite numbers. He has actually had a pretty great career until this season (really: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm). The Broncos are paying for past performance of a declining star, not a second contract to a hoped-for 10-year franchise guy. Edited December 14, 2022 by dave mcbride 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: With the inconsistency and injuries from Stafford, Rodgers, Wilson, Carr ( not injured but has been wildly inconsistent this year), Watson and now Murray, do other NFL teams look at that and hesitate to sign their QBs to long term deals?? Honestly don't see the correlation you are trying to make here at all. Its the NFL, injuries are part of the game for all positions. Shorter answer...No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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