Charles Romes Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 If he had a bad meniscus tear he’d be limping around and there is no way he’d be saying he’s expecting to play in a few weeks. A very good sign imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, vanhalen26 said: He’s on twitch again playing call of duty. I heard him say the limited treatment he’s already had has helped and he’s hoping it’s 1-2 games and then he’ll give it a try. So no reason to believe the gloom and doom just yet, we’ll see. It’s give it a try vs good to go, so he really doesn’t know the season outlook. I hope so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 hours ago, WideNine said: Miami came on a bit towards the end of last season and many predicted Miami to be right behind the Bills... if it was not for a game played in 120 degrees with no shade that is likely where they would be. The Jets have a defensive coach with a defensive system that he brought from the 49ers that was very good. With an embarrassment of high draft picks that team is coming together behind it's defense. Belichick has probably the weakest roster, but usually finds a way to get the most out if it. Thinking they would all sit idly by and watch the Bills own the division was a bit hopeful, but unrealistic. I did not really comment on the AFC East except to note that our division is what was predicted for the AFC West. I am not particularly surprised that the division is competitive. Mainly, I am chagrined at KC getting another cake walk. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I did not really comment on the AFC East except to note that our division is what was predicted for the AFC West. I am not particularly surprised that the division is competitive. Mainly, I am chagrined at KC getting another cake walk. I agree that KC is getting a cake walk this year…..but it’s not easier than our division the previous 2 seasons. We had our cake walk and couldn’t get home field. We had our chances but we blew them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just be back as close to the playoffs as possible, whatever it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 If John Brown can still play so can Dee Ford or Pernell McPhee. Get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhalen26 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 hours ago, NickelCity said: Is this real? Yea, look at my history. I’ve never come on with anything stupid. I subscribed to his twitch channel earlier today and he started breaking down the play he got hurt and talked about it for a bit, then continued on to play call of duty for awhile and I dropped off. That’s what these guys do to fill their time I guess. I’m mid 50s so this is a bit beyond me - streaming your games live. But it’s a thing with the millennials and so on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I did not really comment on the AFC East except to note that our division is what was predicted for the AFC West. I am not particularly surprised that the division is competitive. Mainly, I am chagrined at KC getting another cake walk. Sucks Buffalo just had to play…checks schedule…the Browns and Lions. 5 hours ago, Dan said: How can anyone say this? We’re currently 8-3 (better record than last year) and we’ve had to rely on our depth players all over the field since week 1. We’ve had day 1 starters miss multiple games at pretty much every position except QB and RB. I would say our roster depth has been tremendous. Buffalo may have the best roster top to bottom in the league. Anyone complaining about depth doesn’t understand the league. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dan said: How can anyone say this? We’re currently 8-3 (better record than last year) and we’ve had to rely on our depth players all over the field since week 1. We’ve had day 1 starters miss multiple games at pretty much every position except QB and RB. I would say our roster depth has been tremendous. Never said we don’t have depth. Im saying we have too many misses we couldn’t afford to be misses and lack depth in places we need it badly - WR, TE, OT, RB, and probably Safety. Edited November 27, 2022 by Big Blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Von Miller streams on twitch and was taking questions about his knee injury all day. He's actually live right now https://www.twitch.tv/vonmiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Von Miller streams on twitch and was taking questions about his knee injury all day. He's actually live right now https://www.twitch.tv/vonmiller I'll take "Unfathomable Things" for $1000 Alex. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KHAN said: I'll take "Unfathomable Things" for $1000 Alex. 😉 What does that mean lol? I’m not lying he’s legit live right now. He’s a big gamer. Go search him on twitch yourself Edited November 27, 2022 by Awwufelloff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 He’s the key to the whole thing. Other than Allen obviously. Just get him healthy for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 6 hours ago, NewEra said: I agree that KC is getting a cake walk this year…..but it’s not easier than our division the previous 2 seasons. We had our cake walk and couldn’t get home field. We had our chances but we blew them Disagree. Based on record, Dolphins and Patriots have been on par with Chargers and Raiders. Jets were weaker than Broncos, sure I guess. Not to mention we nearly swept the division 11-1 in those two years, so not sure how we didn't take advantage of the cake walk. I think 12-0 is a bit much to ask for....but mother nature is a son of a B I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: Disagree. Based on record, Dolphins and Patriots have been on par with Chargers and Raiders. Jets were weaker than Broncos, sure I guess. Not to mention we nearly swept the division 11-1 in those two years, so not sure how we didn't take advantage of the cake walk. I think 12-0 is a bit much to ask for....but mother nature is a son of a B I guess? We didn’t take advantage of the cakewalk because we didn’t get home field advantage while Josh Allen is winless on the road in the playoffs. Last year was a failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: We didn’t take advantage of the cakewalk because we didn’t get home field advantage while Josh Allen is winless on the road in the playoffs. Last year was a failure. But we did when referring to our division. We went 11-1, so what are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Just now, What a Tuel said: But we did when referring to our division. We went 11-1, so what are you talking about? Well….when I say we didn’t take advantage, that’s what I meant. On top of the east division games, the 17th added game, we got the WFT at home. Free W. We went 1-3 vs the weak AFC south , losing to Tenn, jax and got steamrolled by the colts. That cost us home field. We went 3-1 vs the weak NFC south- one good team and 3 crap teams- our schedule was easy. Easier than KCs- afc north and nfc east- their games vs division winners- packers, titans , bill. our game vs division winners - WFT, Steelers, chiefs. we even had the tiebreaker but couldn’t take advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: What does that mean lol? I’m not lying he’s legit live right now. He’s a big gamer. Go search him on twitch yourself Watching other people play video games is a thing these days. That concept is unfathomable to me. I love watching Von Miller play football. Tiger Woods 2023, not so much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 HOW WAS THERE NO OVERNIGHT UPDATES TO THIS SITUATUION???? Von should be required to sign up for tbd, and post updates/photos of his knee so we can all diagnose the severity of his injury and provide him with opinions. Lord knows we have ton of those around here! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 hours ago, KHAN said: Watching other people play video games is a thing these days. That concept is unfathomable to me. I love watching Von Miller play football. Tiger Woods 2023, not so much. He was pretty good though! Before he played he was playing video of his injury and talking about it so was super interesting. It's completely up in the air right now. I don't think he plays in the regular season. A chance in the playoffs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Good article by TBN new add Ryan O'Halloran https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/ryan-ohalloran-a-potential-von-miller-timetable-and-other-bills-musings/article_1a469f96-6d2b-11ed-b734-2fc221fe5601.html O'Halloran interviews Carlos Uquillas, a team physician for the Los Angeles Angels and orthopedic surgeon at Cedars-Sinai’s Kerlan-Jobe Institute in Los Angeles Quote So what is the lateral meniscus? “It’s the cartilage pad in between the femur and the tibia and the main thing it does is provide protection for the joint and is the shock absorber,” Uquillas said. “It is basically a disruption of that cartilage and some tears can be played with and some can’t. “The key is the next few days and how much swelling he develops and if there is any bone-bruising associated with it and any sprained ligaments associated with it as well.” At minimum, Miller will have 16 full days between the injury and the Bills’ Dec. 11 home game against the New York Jets. Uquillas said returning that quickly is doable. “If the knee doesn’t swell much and you can control it early, sometimes you can get back from a meniscus tear within a week or two,” he said. “If there is swelling and bone-bruising, it can take a little bit longer.” Basically, we all want answers soonest, but the question is, is this a tear Miller can play through and how much additional damage is there? No shortcuts, Time will Tell. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 10 hours ago, NewEra said: Well….when I say we didn’t take advantage, that’s what I meant. On top of the east division games, the 17th added game, we got the WFT at home. Free W. We went 1-3 vs the weak AFC south , losing to Tenn, jax and got steamrolled by the colts. That cost us home field. We went 3-1 vs the weak NFC south- one good team and 3 crap teams- our schedule was easy. Easier than KCs- afc north and nfc east- their games vs division winners- packers, titans , bill. our game vs division winners - WFT, Steelers, chiefs. we even had the tiebreaker but couldn’t take advantage. But the conversation was about us getting to play the weak AFC East and KC getting to play the weak AFC West? Yes we all know the Titans and Jaguars games screwed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 20 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Or they could sign Love to the active roster and cut one of the useless linebackers who were easily replaced by picking up AJ Klein off the waiver wire, as an upgrade. I don't think we're at huge risk of Mike Love being signed by another team. Always possible, but he's been available around the league for several years now. Not sure who you mean by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Sounds to me like he will play again this season, even if it's in limited situations in the playoffs where we need him most. I would let things heal as much as possible and save whatever snaps he has left for the playoffs. Edited November 27, 2022 by TheFunPolice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: But the conversation was about us getting to play the weak AFC East and KC getting to play the weak AFC West? Yes we all know the Titans and Jaguars games screwed us. Oops sorry. I was responding to the chiefs getting “another cake walk”. Not sure why we would pigeon hole it to only division games when the actual schedule better encapsulates what is an actually cake walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 7 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Not sure who you mean by this. Using the word "useless" is probably a bit too strong. But I am thinking any of Dodson, Matakevich, and Spector would not be great losses. They all have some value but nothing special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: He was pretty good though! Before he played he was playing video of his injury and talking about it so was super interesting. It's completely up in the air right now. I don't think he plays in the regular season. A chance in the playoffs though. What did he say? 12 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: Using the word "useless" is probably a bit too strong. But I am thinking any of Dodson, Matakevich, and Spector would not be great losses. They all have some value but nothing special. Matekevich was signed for his ST chops. Dodson is a staunch STer. TBD’ers don’t think it’s important but McDermott does As noted elsewhere, Dodson seemed to do OK with a week of practice vs. Pittsburgh, but he struggled against the Browns on one practice in a “snow week” There’s no question that Klein is faster to “read and react” Spector I haven’t seen too much of and Bernard I’m not too sure about. He seemed to get himself in the right position most of the time then get trucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: He was pretty good though! Before he played he was playing video of his injury and talking about it so was super interesting. It's completely up in the air right now. I don't think he plays in the regular season. A chance in the playoffs though. So what did Miller say about his injury? It seems to me if the Bills players try to save themselves for the playoffs, there’s a real chance we won’t make the playoffs at all Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: So what did Miller say about his injury? It seems to me if the Bills players try to save themselves for the playoffs, there’s a real chance we won’t make the playoffs at all How can you possibly even say this with a straight face? Sheesh. We think the playoffs will be Chiefs/Dolphins/Titans/Ravens/Jets/Patriots/Chargers? 2 games ahead of both the Chargers and Patriots and we have 4 games against the AFC East left and the AFC East play each other 3 more times. Like come on. 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: How can you possibly even say this with a straight face? Sheesh. We think the playoffs will be Chiefs/Dolphins/Titans/Ravens/Jets/Patriots/Chargers? 2 games ahead of both the Chargers and Patriots and we have 4 games against the AFC East left and the AFC East play each other 3 more times. Like come on. 🙄 To be honest, I didn’t think it was a particularly controversial statement. There’s a very realistic chance that if the Bills level up their consistency, they can win the division and even (with a little help) win the #1 seed in the conference. But with 6 games left, 4 other teams in the conference with winning records, and only a 2 game lead, it seems like simple math that the playoffs aren’t a lock. We’ve all seen what happens when the Bills walk into a game thinking they don’t need to bring their very best to come out with a W I’m not saying I think that’s what will happen, or trying to be a Debbie, just making the point that if the players who brought us this far can play, I’m not sure it’s a sound strategy to feel we can put them “on ice” until the playoffs. Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: How can you possibly even say this with a straight face? Sheesh. We think the playoffs will be Chiefs/Dolphins/Titans/Ravens/Jets/Patriots/Chargers? 2 games ahead of both the Chargers and Patriots and we have 4 games against the AFC East left and the AFC East play each other 3 more times. Like come on. 🙄 Do you really think there’s zero% chance we miss the playoffs if Von Miller is out for the regular season? our schedule isn’t easy, we have major players injured, including our all world QB and our OC doesn’t have our offense firing on all cylinders. Dawkins might miss a game or few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, NewEra said: Do you really think there’s zero% chance we miss the playoffs if Von Miller is out for the regular season? our schedule isn’t easy, we have major players injured, including our all world QB and our OC doesn’t have our offense firing on all cylinders. Dawkins might miss a game or few. Assuming 10-7 gets you in, the chance of us going 1-5 has to be pretty dang close to 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: What did he say? Matekevich was signed for his ST chops. Dodson is a staunch STer. TBD’ers don’t think it’s important but McDermott does As noted elsewhere, Dodson seemed to do OK with a week of practice vs. Pittsburgh, but he struggled against the Browns on one practice in a “snow week” There’s no question that Klein is faster to “read and react” Spector I haven’t seen too much of and Bernard I’m not too sure about. He seemed to get himself in the right position most of the time then get trucked. I believe ST'ers have value but as you say, probably not as much as McD. My point is just that if the sh*t hits the fan roster-wise and they needed to make some moves, if one of those guys was waived I don't think the Bills Super Bowl odds change any. I am not sure about Bernard either but just assumed with his draft position he's not going anywhere, as opposed to Spector being a 7th rounder it's possible that he could make it to the PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, Process said: Assuming 10-7 gets you in, the chance of us going 1-5 has to be pretty dang close to 0 I just wouldn’t assume that 10-7 gets us in- could be tie breakers- look at the pats and chargers schedules both teams have 4 possible wins. Don’t get me wrong- I think we’ll get in, but I just don’t think a playoff bid is guaranteed. There’s always a chance for more injuries and referees blowing games for us. Our offense needs to show they can get back to business 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Process said: Assuming 10-7 gets you in, the chance of us going 1-5 has to be pretty dang close to 0 We've only had 17 games for a couple seasons, and I'm not the odds-meister to determine how adding a game changes things. At least one 10 win team has missed playoffs 5 of the last 10 years, as recently as 2020 So I'd kind of rather get more wins and not find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: To be honest, I didn’t think it was a particularly controversial statement. There’s a very realistic chance that if the Bills level up their consistency, they can win the division and even (with a little help) win the #1 seed in the conference. But with 6 games left, 4 other teams in the conference with winning records, and only a 2 game lead, it seems like simple math that the playoffs aren’t a lock. We’ve all seen what happens when the Bills walk into a game thinking they don’t need to bring their very best to come out with a W I’m not saying I think that’s what will happen, or trying to be a Debbie, just making the point that if the players who brought us this far can play, I’m not sure it’s a sound strategy to feel we can put them “on ice” until the playoffs. Bills currently 96% to make the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: To be honest, I didn’t think it was a particularly controversial statement. There’s a very realistic chance that if the Bills level up their consistency, they can win the division and even (with a little help) win the #1 seed in the conference. But with 6 games left, 4 other teams in the conference with winning records, and only a 2 game lead, it seems like simple math that the playoffs aren’t a lock. We’ve all seen what happens when the Bills walk into a game thinking they don’t need to bring their very best to come out with a W I’m not saying I think that’s what will happen, or trying to be a Debbie, just making the point that if the players who brought us this far can play, I’m not sure it’s a sound strategy to feel we can put them “on ice” until the playoffs. I don't doubt we can lose a couple more games but there is zero indication we would lose more than 3 which is the same amount of losses in 6 games as we had in 11 games. Thats pessimistic at best. Assuming we win 3 more games, we beat 3 of the Jets, Pats, Bengals, Dolphins, Bears, 5 of which are our direct competition. Bills @ Pats Dolphins @ Bills Jets @ Bills Bills @ Bengals Pats @ Bills On top of that, our direct competition (assuming we don't win the division) is the Bengals, Jets, Pats, Chargers. Guess who they play? Jets @ Dolphins Bengals @ Pats Dolphins @ Pats Chiefs @ Bengals Dolphins @ Chargers That's at least 3 losses potentially dealt by us to our competition and a guaranteed 4-5 losses minimum dealt to our competition. That is also assuming they run the table on the other random teams they play? Give me a break. The chance is there sure, it always is. But it would take a very specific failure by the Bills, and very specific wins by everyone else for it to happen. To be speculating it on a Bills forum as a "real chance" is silly. 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Do you really think there’s zero% chance we miss the playoffs if Von Miller is out for the regular season? our schedule isn’t easy, we have major players injured, including our all world QB and our OC doesn’t have our offense firing on all cylinders. Dawkins might miss a game or few. See above. Edited November 28, 2022 by What a Tuel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Bills currently 96% to make the playoffs I had a 97% chance to win a fantasy matchup tonight- then I went against Josh Jacobs and Christian Watson. Lost by 3. we will most likely make the playoffs. I don’t think it would take much to really screw us up. Say dawkins has a high ankle sprain and he’s out the next 3 games- Rousseau misses the next 2- von is out for the next 3- No Von, Dawkins and Rousseau we could conceivably lose the next 3 games and be 0-5 in the division. Unlikely….. but I wouldn’t be shocked. All 3 teams are solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I don't doubt we can lose a couple more games but there is zero indication we would lose more than 3 which is the same amount of losses in 6 games as we had in 11 games. Thats pessimistic at best. You lost me right there. I think it's safe to say this isn't a topic where we'll be able to have a productive discussion, so agree to disagree. Note that I don't want the Bills to lose ANY more games and I think "running the table" is entirely do-able for the team if they take care of business and focus But at the same time, I have no idea what is meant by "there is zero indication we would lose more than 3" means. We lost 3 close games that we could easily have won if one or two of a handful of plays had fallen differently; one could equally well say that we won 3 close games we could easily have lost if one or two of a handful of plays had fallen differently. So when I read "there is zero indication we would lose more than 3", I don't think we speak the same language, where probabilities are concerned, even independent of the team being different in the second half of the season if we're missing a key player like Von Miller and have other key players such as Dawkins or Groot or Edmunds absent for more time or if Allen fails to regroup from his UCL injury. Again, I don't want the Bills to lose any more games, and I hope they will make the playoffs, I just don't see it as a sure thing, especially if we are without 1 or 2 of our best players any length of time. Edited November 28, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: I don't doubt we can lose a couple more games but there is zero indication we would lose more than 3 which is the same amount of losses in 6 games as we had in 11 games. Thats pessimistic at best. Assuming we win 3 more games, we beat 3 of the Jets, Pats, Bengals, Dolphins, Bears, 5 of which are our direct competition. Bills @ Pats Dolphins @ Bills Jets @ Bills Bills @ Bengals Pats @ Bills On top of that, our direct competition (assuming we don't win the division) is the Bengals, Jets, Pats, Chargers. Guess who they play? Jets @ Dolphins Bengals @ Pats Dolphins @ Pats Chiefs @ Bengals Dolphins @ Chargers That's at least 3 losses potentially dealt by us to our competition and a guaranteed 4-5 losses minimum dealt to our competition. That is also assuming they run the table on the other random teams they play? Give me a break. The chance is there sure, it always is. But it would take a very specific failure by the Bills, and very specific wins by everyone else for it to happen. To be speculating it on a Bills forum as a "real chance" is silly. See above. i understand. I don’t think it’s likely, but injuries and the current state of our O leaves the door open for some upsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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