Gambit Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Hines and Cook in the backfield, Diggs, Davis McKenzie at WR, and oh, Knox at TE. Or Allen can also run! Only one of Knox or McKenzie could be on the field at that point. Still pretty scary tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: LMAO...Man, some of you have the absolute worst hot takes. How many yards did Hill have against the Bills while missing its ENTIRE STARTING SECONDARY and lost one of the backups who started the game actually during that game? How many rushing yards did they have that game? How many passing yards did Tua have? We will wait while you go google your reality check. To add to this. When Benford got hurt he was replaced by Ingram. Who was a rookie UDFA, just called up from the practice squad the day before. Tua only had 186 yards passing, 25% of that came on one play to Waddle. Hill had 2 catches for 33 yards, by far his worst game with Tua as QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: What the actual *****? Tommy Doyle is a MAN!! Just.....wow. Yeah, imagine you have no OL left on the sidelines and your 5th on the field has an ACL tear, and they still should've won that game. I imagine the Bills are looking at the December game with Miami a lot like they looked at the Titans game, want to put a hurt on that team... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: So there'd be an advantage to the Bills to not activate him at all this season if not really needed, or marginal if he'll be close to 100% I don't know - that's what I'm asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Shakir really didn't have much fantasy value (redraft leagues) to begin with. I don't see a change. McKenzie is very TD dependent even in PPR leagues. Both should be left on the waiver wire. Cook is an interesting guy to pick up and stash if he's available. I don't see him being much value for the next month or so for fantasy....but by the time Fantasy Playoffs start he should be steadily getting 12-15 touches a game even with the addition of Hines. Yeah I had shakir stashed for a few weeks had to let him go. I’m just trying to rework it a little bit and deciding if I should pick any of them back up. I had cook till last week and still have McKenzie. Cook is the one that I keep coming back to cause I still think he’s going to be involved even with Hines maybe even more than some ppl think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, julian said: Can you imagine the arrogance of the Saints GM to not return Bean’s call, Saints acting like they’re still the powerhouse team of years ago and any such inquiry is insulting and thus doesn’t even deserve a call back. If I understood what Beane said correctly, that wasn't how it rolled. 1) he said each scout is assigned a pro team or teams 2) that scout is responsible for keeping tabs on that team's roster and PS, watching film, knowing who on there would we try to snipe off the PS or who might we want to try for in trade and then following up any whispers or rumors about those players 3) if there are rumors or whispers about a player we'd want to try for being available in trade, that scout calls his contact on the team (who may be another scout) and says "hey, any truth to this?" So if I understood it correctly, Beane said the scout assigned to cover the Saints called his contact on the Saints and said "is it true you're open to offers about Kamara?" The Saints contact didn't call him back, which is rude, but not on the same level of arrogance as one GM not returning another GM's call. But then it came out in the media "Bills called about Kamara and were rebuffed" which isn't exactly how it went down. Beane said in contrast, he had talked to Carolina's GM about McCaffrey but it quickly became evident that Carolina wanted more than Beane was prepared to offer, so he bowed out. Edited November 2, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Can you imagine the Bills offense with an RB opposing defenses have to game plan for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Logic said: "I have seen a lot of players rehab from ACL injuries. I don’t want to say Tre’ White’s rehab was the best, but I haven’t seen better. I’m real proud of him." Welp. I guess that puts THAT one to rest. Beane seems to disagree with all of the medical experts on this forum. But but but they know EVERYTHING don't they? Don't they? They don't huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Logic said: "I have seen a lot of players rehab from ACL injuries. I don’t want to say Tre’ White’s rehab was the best, but I haven’t seen better. I’m real proud of him." Welp. I guess that puts THAT one to rest. Beane seems to disagree with all of the medical experts on this forum. This. My new phrase is, “till I hear it from the Beane/McD, I’m not going to speculate.”. This organization is great at sharing when they need too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: So based off the comments that I’ve seen in this so far I did not see the actual conference and didn’t have much vote of confidence in McKenzie Hines is an RB with pass-receiving chops. Why would Beane's press conference be a "vote of confidence" in any receiver? I guess he did mention Hines can play receiver, jet sweep, wildcat - them's facts. Beane could have been asked specifically whether Hines would affect McKenzie's role or Shakir's role. I didn't hear that question asked. He said "if we need him to, he can play slot receiver for a game", which sounds kind of like an injury replacement thing. (avert) Beane said that Hines was someone they looked into before they tried to sign McKissic and ultimately drafted Cook (Hines was under contract so it would have been a trade). That kind of sounds bad for Cook! but later on in the presser Beane said he didn't see it as affecting "James" at all, there might be packages where Cook and HInes are on the field at the same time. He also specifically mentioned that the defense can see Hines is in the huddle, but they don't know how he'll be used since he could line up in the backfield or at slot, and that "we don't want to overload the rookie" but as Cook comes along we could see him used the same way. I kind of had the impression they were hoping to be using Cook that way already but he's having to be brought along more slowly. (that seems like contradicting the "don't see it affecting James" assertion? although maybe Beane doesn't see it as such since we're not using Cook that way now?) Beane specifically mentioned Hines as a punt returner. He said we lost Crowder earlier in the year, "Shakir has done a really good job but as a rookie, that's a lot", "he's still trying to get his feet settled at WR" which actually, kind of sounds like not much of a vote of confidence in Shakir as a punt returner. So I'm kind of thinking we're going to see Hines at PR pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 hours ago, gridirongold said: Hines and Cook isn't intimidating at all though is the point. Why ger cute now. We have 3 3rd down rbs. Fact. So what if they're better at te rb and wr if we have a do it all qb .. no reason to protect him with a guy that cam carry 20 plus times ? Just burn him up... The Bills are who they thought they were. The Dolphins jusr got schemeatically better by how much? 5 hours ago, gridirongold said: Meanwhile the Dolphins are ready to run it down throats. Stop that and they have speed to burn outside. This is no time to get cute. Hines and Cook backfield. Oh the intimidation. 3 hours ago, gridirongold said: And don't even deny you saw him give it all he had to the gun til he was worn out physically in their last 2 losses.. at kc and at Miami. The point is preserve the qb and suffocate the opposition . Don't let it come to the last possession. Ball control I'll leave these posts for a moment and just say your post in another thread about moving Cook to the PS is the biggest troll job I heard in years. Congrats. Others may want to hear more from you but that and the posts I highlighted above makes you Number 1 on my ignore list. That is something for you to be proud of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: but by the time Fantasy Playoffs start he should be steadily getting 12-15 touches a game even with the addition of Hines. I would be shocked if this happened. Bills RB’s average 17 attempts per game. If Cool is getting 12 to 15 attempts per game then Singletary and Hines combined are only carrying the ball 2 to 5 times per game. I just don’t see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: I would be shocked if this happened. Bills RB’s average 17 attempts per game. If Cool is getting 12 to 15 attempts per game then Singletary and Hines combined are only carrying the ball 2 to 5 times per game. I just don’t see that happening. It was "touches", not attempts that @BuffaloBillyGalluded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Logic said: Respectfully, I was actually referring to the recent thread absolutely filled with speculation and insinuation that Tre's recovery wasn't going well, that he was behind schedule, that there had been setbacks. I think his point was that you made a remark about posters not being doctors, but there is a logical fallacy in that comment, since Beane isn’t a doctor either. It Beane was impressed with Tre’s comeback then he must be downright stupefied by Robert Woods. Woods tore his ACL two weeks before Tre and was back 3.5 months ago (in training and started the first game of the season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: I think his point was that you made a remark about posters not being doctors, but there is a logical fallacy in that comment, since Beane isn’t a doctor either. It Beane was impressed with Tre’s comeback then he must be downright stupefied by Robert Woods. Woods tore his ACL two weeks before Tre and was back 3.5 months ago (in training and started the first game of the season). This only makes sense IF every human being having an ACL injury is identical. Is that what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: It was "touches", not attempts that @BuffaloBillyGalluded to. Adding receptions increases the total by 4 per game. If Cook is touching the ball 15 times per game, then Singletary and Hines combined would touch the ball 6 times per game (rushing and receiving). It would be the Cook show at RB and Singletary/Hines would just come in a few times per game when he’s tired. I guess we will see what happens but I would be very surprised if Cook quadruples his touches per game by the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Einstein said: Adding receptions increases the total by 4 per game. If Cook is touching the ball 15 times per game, then Singletary and Hines combined would touch the ball 6 times per game (rushing and receiving). It would be the Cook show at RB and Singletary/Hines would just come in a few times per game when he’s tired. I guess we will see what happens but I would be very surprised if Cook quadruples his touches per game by the playoffs. My point is you talk about things without truly reading what posters say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: This only makes sense IF every human being having an ACL injury is identical. Is that what you mean? Beane said it was the best ACL rehab he has ever seen. Did he mean it was the best ACL rehab he has ever seen Tre White do? That doesn’t make any sense. And I don’t recall Tre’s ACL injury being extra bad or anything. I think Beane was just being complimentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Whatever it takes to keep McKenzie off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said: My point is you talk about things without truly reading what posters say. The point I made remains the same whether you include receiving touches or not. Adding 4 receiving touches per game split among 3 RB’s is so infinitesimal that it adds no statistical relevance to the discussion. So you’re simply arguing semantics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Einstein said: Beane said it was the best ACL rehab he has ever seen. Did he mean it was the best ACL rehab he has ever seen Tre White do? That doesn’t make any sense. And I don’t recall Tre’s ACL injury being extra bad or anything. I think Beane was just being complimentary. Do you ever listen to your replies. You love to say anything to cause a controversy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Do you ever listen to your replies. You love to say anything to cause a controversy. I don’t ever try to cause controversy. You’re just attacking me for no reason. We can agree to disagree. No reason to respond. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, Einstein said: I think his point was that you made a remark about posters not being doctors, but there is a logical fallacy in that comment, since Beane isn’t a doctor either. It Beane was impressed with Tre’s comeback then he must be downright stupefied by Robert Woods. Woods tore his ACL two weeks before Tre and was back 3.5 months ago (in training and started the first game of the season). I admittedly don't watch Robert Woods, or the Titans. But since you brought him up... Yes, he was back sooner. But is he back at 100%? His stats seem WAY down compared to prior years, and yes other things impact that. We heard today from Tre, and could definitely hear how tough it was for him (especially initially) on the rehab. Can't imagine going thru that. But my point is perhaps Beane is giving Tre praise (like you said), and also seeing Tre is truly back to his old form. Won't know that until he plays... it's one thing coming back quickly, another to come back close to pre-injury form within 12-15 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: If I understood what Beane said correctly, that wasn't how it rolled. 1) he said each scout is assigned a pro team or teams 2) that scout is responsible for keeping tabs on that team's roster and PS, watching film, knowing who on there would we try to snipe off the PS or who might we want to try for in trade and then following up any whispers or rumors about those players 3) if there are rumors or whispers about a player we'd want to try for being available in trade, that scout calls his contact on the team (who may be another scout) and says "hey, any truth to this?" So if I understood it correctly, Beane said the scout assigned to cover the Saints called his contact on the Saints and said "is it true you're open to offers about Kamara?" The Saints contact didn't call him back, which is rude, but not on the same level of arrogance as one GM not returning another GM's call. But then it came out in the media "Bills called about Kamara and were rebuffed" which isn't exactly how it went down. Beane said in contrast, he had talked to Carolina's GM about McCaffrey but it quickly became evident that Carolina wanted more than Beane was prepared to offer, so he bowed out. Yeah this makes more sense for sure, excellent job laying that out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Einstein said: I would be shocked if this happened. Bills RB’s average 17 attempts per game. If Cool is getting 12 to 15 attempts per game then Singletary and Hines combined are only carrying the ball 2 to 5 times per game. I just don’t see that happening. Ok, so what you are proposing has merit based on use of the RB position from the first part of the season. However, when you get into the nuts and bolts about projecting future touches for fantasy purposes there is a lot to factor in. Some is rather subjective and some is pretty basic common sense. For instance, while rushing attempts have been limited to 17 a game as you say...the question to ask is why and how the game script played into that. So, when projecting game scripts going forward I see 2 things that jump off the page. First off is that the overall quality of opponent takes a nose dive. We should be playing from far ahead pretty often. This would lead to a few more rush attempts a game, ideally. Second thing to look at is the often dreaded weather conditions. We have been fortunate so far this season and if the other thread on here is accurate the Bills should see better weather than they did last year. But this is still Buffalo weather which can change rather quickly. One example of the Bills is bad weather is the Bills-Falcons game from last year. While Allen still attempted 26 passes, we saw Motor and Moss combine for 28 rushes. McK had one and Allen had FIFTEEN. I suspect that will not continue. So that's 44 combined rushes on the day. I believe where you may see the difference in game scripts like this is that Motor would see his normal cold weather work load (about 20 carries). Hines, who has shown well in cold weather games may see 10-12 of those. Allen would ideally not carry 15 times. That opens a bunch of carries for Cook. Factor him in for Moss's 5 and a few of Allen's and that puts him around 10 carries before even factoring in the passing game. Again this is one example, but later in the season and playing against lesser opponents I would project an increase of running plays due to possible weather and playing from a large lead. It's not an exact science, of course...but my projections usually serve well for fantasy purposes. Bottom line...stash Jimbo Cook now...win your league later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 hours ago, gridirongold said: Meanwhile the Dolphins are ready to run it down throats. Stop that and they have speed to burn outside. This is no time to get cute. Hines and Cook backfield. Oh the intimidation. I'm happy to let the dolphins run it down throats. They aren't good at running the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Some interesting updates and background in this thread. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Ok, so what you are proposing has merit based on use of the RB position from the first part of the season. However, when you get into the nuts and bolts about projecting future touches for fantasy purposes there is a lot to factor in. Some is rather subjective and some is pretty basic common sense. For instance, while rushing attempts have been limited to 17 a game as you say...the question to ask is why and how the game script played into that. So, when projecting game scripts going forward I see 2 things that jump off the page. First off is that the overall quality of opponent takes a nose dive. We should be playing from far ahead pretty often. This would lead to a few more rush attempts a game, ideally. Second thing to look at is the often dreaded weather conditions. We have been fortunate so far this season and if the other thread on here is accurate the Bills should see better weather than they did last year. But this is still Buffalo weather which can change rather quickly. One example of the Bills is bad weather is the Bills-Falcons game from last year. While Allen still attempted 26 passes, we saw Motor and Moss combine for 28 rushes. McK had one and Allen had FIFTEEN. I suspect that will not continue. So that's 44 combined rushes on the day. I believe where you may see the difference in game scripts like this is that Motor would see his normal cold weather work load (about 20 carries). Hines, who has shown well in cold weather games may see 10-12 of those. Allen would ideally not carry 15 times. That opens a bunch of carries for Cook. Factor him in for Moss's 5 and a few of Allen's and that puts him around 10 carries before even factoring in the passing game. Again this is one example, but later in the season and playing against lesser opponents I would project an increase of running plays due to possible weather and playing from a large lead. It's not an exact science, of course...but my projections usually serve well for fantasy purposes. Bottom line...stash Jimbo Cook now...win your league later. 4 of the 6 Bills wins have been by double digits already. Hasn’t seem to have increased the rate of running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 10:23 AM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I'm happy to let the dolphins run it down throats. They aren't good at running the ball. Haven't been yet. Good move on paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 6:32 PM, ColoradoBills said: I'll leave these posts for a moment and just say your post in another thread about moving Cook to the PS is the biggest troll job I heard in years. Congrats. Others may want to hear more from you but that and the posts I highlighted above makes you Number 1 on my ignore list. That is something for you to be proud of! I'm so ashamed. I root for the uniform too. Just wish someone else wore it from the 2nd round.. not gonna use him.. walker Seattle. Pierce from Houston just to name 2. There were more than me who disliked the pick. So what's wrong? Ignore . Idgaf. We all want to see a superbowl. It's ridiculous they don't address the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 2:53 PM, Alphadawg7 said: LMAO...Man, some of you have the absolute worst hot takes. How many yards did Hill have against the Bills while missing its ENTIRE STARTING SECONDARY and lost one of the backups who started the game actually during that game? How many rushing yards did they have that game? How many passing yards did Tua have? We will wait while you go google your reality check. Lol you're way off. That game isn't the subject. Hill plays wr not rb in case you didn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 6:32 PM, ColoradoBills said: I'll leave these posts for a moment and just say your post in another thread about moving Cook to the PS is the biggest troll job I heard in years. Congrats. Others may want to hear more from you but that and the posts I highlighted above makes you Number 1 on my ignore list. That is something for you to be proud of! You better get it that JA17 is as rare to not only the Buffalo Bills but as to the NFL as Flightline is to horse racing. Someone needs to be in the backfield with him. Not some Trung Candidate wanna be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, gridirongold said: Lol you're way off. That game isn't the subject. Hill plays wr not rb in case you didn't know. What are you talking about? No s**t he plays WR. I asked you how many yards did Hill have (receiving) and because you keep pumping their run game up I asked you how many yards rushing did they get. Your posts here in this thread are literally absurd Edited November 6, 2022 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/2/2022 at 11:57 PM, Einstein said: I think his point was that you made a remark about posters not being doctors, but there is a logical fallacy in that comment, since Beane isn’t a doctor either. It Beane was impressed with Tre’s comeback then he must be downright stupefied by Robert Woods. Woods tore his ACL two weeks before Tre and was back 3.5 months ago (in training and started the first game of the season). White had meniscus damage as well though. It was not a "simple" ACL. If it had of been I expect he'd have been back on the field sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 Very concerning if Milano and Poyer can’t go for multiple games. Minn. will not be easy with a void in our run and underneath pass defense. The offense will have to be prolific and we’ll be in shootout mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: What are you talking about? No s**t he plays WR. I asked you how many yards did Hill have (receiving) and because you keep pumping their run game up I asked you how many yards rushing did they get. Your posts here in this thread are literally absurd No bro. You just can't understand. Have your parents help maybe? The whole subject was the Jets and dolphins beat us to rbs hall and Wilson. We still have only Josh Allen back there that has any size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, gridirongold said: No bro. You just can't understand. Have your parents help maybe? The whole subject was the Jets and dolphins beat us to rbs hall and Wilson. We still have only Josh Allen back there that has any size Best part about this is now I know you have nothing you’re gonna post worth reading. So I can skip them from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Best part about this is now I know you have nothing you’re gonna post worth reading. So I can skip them from now on Right. Nothing for you to argue. The qb is the running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, gridirongold said: Right. Nothing for you to argue. The qb is the running game. The funniest part about your bad takes is that you don’t even know what we were discussing in the first place, which was your Dolphin statements, not the Bills run game. Literally can’t have a discussion with someone who doesn’t even know what he’s discussing. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 51 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: The funniest part about your bad takes is that you don’t even know what we were discussing in the first place, which was your Dolphin statements, not the Bills run game. Literally can’t have a discussion with someone who doesn’t even know what he’s discussing. LMAO Jets and Dolphins keep beating them to a runner. I don't know how you don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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